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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

    Ok, thanks guys!

    Wizard,
    have you any interior pics of 760?

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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

    The price of this DAC is absolutely crazy. Unless they use some megabuck clock (which I do not see here) it doesn't really look different to many sub $20k designs.

    Same for their phonostage, also piced at 50.000 euro.
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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

    High end prices are sick for a couple of years. Lets see what is in your Trinity DAC or in FM amps or in Aurender? We can go further - what we have in Kondo amps for 200k$ (except astonishing hand built).
    IMO High end audio nowadays is like a high end watches market, just luxury products, a piece of material with just good or sometimes great technology that arouses big visual (watches) or hearing and spiritual (audio) emotions. And we can pay for these emotions several hundred thousand dollars Even if we can check the time on smartphone and listen to music in pretty good quality on solid portable players with good Sennheisers for 200$ Ohh, I forgot! another example - we can also drive a Skoda!
    But people have Jaeger-LeCoultre on the wrist, have Ferrari and Mercedes in the garage and Soulution and Magico in living room

    Sooo back to topic - Everybody knows that Soulution technology is amazing in amps, so I think we should try 760. I will on the first oprtunity with 725/711 combo.

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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

    My new Soulution gear arrives in a few days
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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

    The prices in hi-end audio seem to be in some kind of death spiral.

    At least in my $56k Trinity DAC I can see two ultra expensive crystal oscilators (which cost more alone than the the BOM of pictured Soulution DAC by at least a factor of two) and in Kondo amps hundreds if not thousands of man hours plus top quality materials used.

    In the Soulution DAC I see none of these.

    One manufacturer comes with an exorbitant price ($90k MSB Select) another follows with a $70k product (dCS Vivaldi DAC/upsampler/clock combo) and all of the sudden - $50k euro (which will probably translate to $60k) looks almost 'ordinary'.

    The truth is, that Mark Levinson No 30 DAC that shocked the audio world in 1994 with its $14k pricetag was by far a much more substantially built piece of gear (and probably much more advanced in terms of technology at that time) than the Soulution DAC pictured, and $14k in 1994 translates to $22k in 2015 money (or if you put it the other way round, $60,000 of 2014 dollars would be worth $37,560.00 in 1994).

    Inflation Calculator 2015
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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

    It's just marketing; they want to position the brand as an ultra high end one, it has nothing to do with the manufacturing cost. Their 710 amp has doubled its price as soon as it got a lot of press coverage and the brand was well known.

    And the dCS Vivaldi DAC is €25k, half the Solution 760.

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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

    The Vivaldi DAC alone may be $30k or so, but if you want upsampling and ethernet input you need to get the clock and upsampler as well - and that will set you back $70k or so.

    But you are right - in terms of technology, 'parts count', size, build quality or even weight, the Vivaldi DAC doesn't look to be any cheaper than the Soulution DAC, and yet - the soulution is twice as expesive.



    This is just madness and shows that the retail price has nothing to do with cost of manufacture or even R&D.
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    Re: Soulution 760 D/A Converter

    This one is also interesting: Bricasti DAC:



    How much is it ? $8k ? $10k ? It doesn't look to be lesss of a DAC than the Soulution ... for 1/5th of the price.

    Is it only me who things gear is overpriced and there is sth seriously wrong with hi-end AD2015 ?
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