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June 7, 2013, 09:58 PM #1Audioshark
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Amp/Preamp for sonus faber guarneri memento
I sold my Classe CA-2300 and CP-800 for no other reason than to try something different. No, there is nothing wrong with the Classe gear - its excellent. But, I've got my main system sounding so darn good, that my tinkering desires will have to be on the family room system. My family room system is now amp/preampless.
I'm leaning towards mc452/c2500 combo or possibly, a Devialet for my sonus faber guarneri memento's. But, I'm open to other ideas, thoughts, suggestions.
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June 7, 2013, 10:04 PM #2Senior Member
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I know someone who has a ModWright KWI-200 with SF GM's Mike and is very happy with the combo!
Originally Posted by Mike
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June 7, 2013, 10:05 PM #3Audioshark
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Interesting. I hadn't thought about that. Will check it out. Originally Posted by JJinID
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June 7, 2013, 10:15 PM #4Senior Member
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Bryston 4B SST2 & Aesthetix Calypso Signature?
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June 7, 2013, 10:19 PM #5Audioshark
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Re: Amp/Preamp for sonus faber guarneri memento
Hmmm. Originally Posted by Dewster
Bryston 4B SST2 & Aesthetix Calypso Signature?My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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June 7, 2013, 10:35 PM #6Senior Member
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It's a serious value..
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+1 Originally Posted by Dewster
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Wadia Intuition
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Hmm... I like the new Jeff Rowland series with sf speakers . Let me post some pictures soon
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June 8, 2013, 01:45 AM #10Super Moderator
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Mike, Originally Posted by highEndguy
This is an excellent suggestion. The new Wadia is supposed to be spectacular.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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Soulution 520, trust me.....it just fits into any system & I've put it in a few. Everyone I ask if they'd like to hear it in their system leaps at the chance & all are seriously impressed, I even have a waiting list if I choose to move onto another,
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Mike,
You know what I think of Soulution, but that's heavy money for a second system. If you're doing that, I'd get the 530 integrated. But I'd also look at integrated choices from Boulder, Sim, ARC and even Peachtree. I've heard all of those choices with SF, in demos or at shows, and they sounded great. Keep it simple -- one box, fewer cables.
Devialet would also be an excellent choice, and that really is a one-box solution and no cables. I haven't heard it with SF though.
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The Wadia has me intrigued. But no Phonostage (unlike the Devialet). Has anyone heard the Wadia?
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veloce seems to b a really popular choice at many shows and no need for any type of power conditoner needed esepecially if you consider their amps as well.
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Thanks Nick. I can't seem to get their website to load. Originally Posted by veindoc
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Mike, Originally Posted by Mike
It's Class D. Unlike the Devialet, which is a mix of Class A and D (proprietary tech). I wouldn't bother with it, specially now that you can get a Devialet for the same money.
I'd also look into a darTZeel CTH-8550 integrated. Has everything, including a very good phono stage. It's not cheap, but IMO, it'd be the best "simple" solution.
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My budget is under $10k. Not sure I could get into the front door of the Dart dealer for that!
I thought the Devialet was $16k ish ? I know they have three different models, but I would need the one with the biggest cojones. The Mementos can be tricky to drive.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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The Devialet started around $16 and no DSD. Not sure where the price is now.
Wadia is $8 and handles DSD.
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For $10k, you'll likely end up with the middle model, 170W. Does everything, including phono, but yeah, don't know about DSD. Has a streamer built-in, though, so you can just send music from your computer to it, no wires.
As I said, the Wadia is Class D, and for that reason alone, I wouldn't buy it.
Perhaps you could go with a cheap amp, like the Job 225 that Joe is testing, and a decent mid-price DAC, like the Mytek or Calyx. That'll set you back about $5k. If you want to get serious, a Bricasti DAC is (or was) about $9k.
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Vitus Audio RI-100? 300Wpc for $13K, optional phono card. With a decent discount, can get you close to $10K...
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Thanks Originally Posted by socfan12
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Jeff Rowland Design-Continuum-250 integrated amp With Phono stage - Canuck Audio Mart
maybe this one ?
250 watts per channel x 8 ohms (500 x 4) / Peak current output: 35 amps / 2 pairs XLR inputs, 2 pairs RCA inputs, 1 pair RCA unity gain bypass, 1 pair each of balanced and single-ended outputs / Balance control / Mute / Switched mode power supply / Remote control / Dimensions: 135x 394 x 380mm (h/w/d), 18.6kg / Finish: SilverLast edited by Paul; June 8, 2013 at 04:02 PM.
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It's funny Paul - I thought about this exact amp too! So many great choices! Thanks. Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh
Jeff Rowland Design-Continuum-250 integrated amp With Phono stage - Canuck Audio Mart
maybe this one ?
250 watts per channel x 8 ohms (500 x 4) / Peak current output: 35 amps / 2 pairs XLR inputs, 2 pairs RCA inputs, 1 pair RCA unity gain bypass, 1 pair each of balanced and single-ended outputs / Balance control / Mute / Switched mode power supply / Remote control / Dimensions: 135x 394 x 380mm (h/w/d), 18.6kg / Finish: SilverMy Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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Mike,
Have you thought about the ARC vsi75 ? It fits your budget and you know the ARC SF sound. I'm not sure how tough the mementos are to drive.
I think it is a very sweet integrated, the only design flaw in my mind is the lack of XLR inputs.
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I have thought of that....but it won't have enough power....the Mementos need a lot of juice to sound their best. Originally Posted by tunes
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Well, I want to share an experience about possible break-in... I have my k03-xd for about 1 year now and recently got into playing a lot of CDs (incl. SACD) which I might have done about 50 times...
My experience with the K-03XD