Thread: Shunyata Typhon T2

Typhon T2 - Shunyata Research


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Of course Shunyata announce a new product when my Everest is on the truck heading west to me from the dealer.

I also have a Denali 6000/S v1 that might benefit from Typhon T2.

Trying to wrap my tiny brain around this. How does a Denali v2/Typhon T2 combo compare to an Everest?

Originally Posted by GSOphile

My guess is better if you power the V2/T2 from separate dedicated lines.

I was thinking of the configuration with the T2 feeding the Denali v2 via the umbilical cable with just the one AC power cable.


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Originally Posted by TommyC

Denali V2 (6,000) + Typhon T2 (5,500) + Reference Umbilical (1,250) = 12,750
Everest = 9,900

Does combo #1 outperform the Everest? Considering it's almost 30% more expensive.

The V2/T2 combo would still lack the CMode filter that is in the Everest. Assuming that the QR/BB & NIC components of the T2 are additive with their counterparts in the V2, the question then becomes whether those combined elements are more effective than their counterparts in the Everest. If not, then the Everest would be the clear winner. If they are, then both the V2/T2 combo & the Everest would have each some qualities that are better, & some that are worse, than the other. And therefore each might be the superior performer, depending on the systems they are used with. I wonder what Caelin's take on this is. And I assume that eventually someone will try a "shootout"...

Originally Posted by Gondo101

...I am just wondering if we can use all 3 outlets (e.g. umbilical for Denali, and 2 other outlets for monoblock amps.

Yes you can. It says so on the product YouTube promo.

You'd think they'd be close in performance. The Typhon T2/Denali 6000S/v2 is $1000 more expensive MSRP than the Everest. Same number of outlets. The choice between the two would probably come down to form factor. For me the tower chassis is appealing because it's not taking up shelf space. And the $1000 saved on purchase price would buy half a power cable.

I would have thought both.

Does the umblilical option mean you can actually connect THREE not just two components ? (two via the regular outlets and the third one via umbilical)

Well, he have asked about connecting a Denali ... I'm asking about connecting a small system consisting of just 3 components.

Denali has it's own set of filters. I would like to know, if the Typhoon T2 has three independent sets of filters, or maybe the umbilical out is tied to one of the the regular outlets.

Major miss - the cable cradle; should have been on the T2.

Originally Posted by Crumhorn

I doubt, but have no clue, whether the umbilical connection could be used for a 3rd component...

The video makes it clear you can use the dedicated umbilical connection for another component, if you order an umbilical with a C15 or C19 connector. But if one is going to order just a T2 (that has no CCI filters) to use up to three components, the question is, for the asking price, would it be best to just get a Denali v2 for an extra $500 - in other words, which one would sound best for up to 3 components. The 3-component scenario also raises the issue of that 30A umbilical connector, in the sense that if it were a typical outlet, one could use any cord - like the Alpha, Sigma or Omega - not just that umbilical cord they now sell. I like the 30A connector, but it doesn't feel like a good overall decision to me...

I think T2 is primarily pitched at existing Denali owners who want Everest performance without having to sell their Denali and buy a new Everest. It seems T2 is universal voltage, same as Typhon was. T2 should have the cable cradle.

The Denali v2 can easily fetch $3000 so for the same upgrade cost just go for an Everest, and you end up with a better conditioner and one umbilical less. Assuming you can fit the Everest

So far no comments on performance and that is what I am interested in. My dilemma is that I have two systems so funds get divided. My Denali v2 is on a split-wall system so only front-end components are connected to it. Amplification is on a different power conditioner so benefits of a Typhon are diminished.

Amazing that a Denali can now be expanded by an additional 3 boxes (2 box Altaira and a Typhon). That total is more boxes than I have to connect (source, DAC, preamplifier).

Originally Posted by Dizzie

So far no comments on performance and that is what I am interested in. My dilemma is that I have two systems so funds get divided. My Denali v2 is on a split-wall system so only front-end components are connected to it. Amplification is on a different power conditioner so benefits of a Typhon are diminished.

Amazing that a Denali can now be expanded by an additional 3 boxes (2 box Altaira and a Typhon). That total is more boxes than I have to connect (source, DAC, preamplifier).

I would keep your present layout. Keep the Denali on one wall for the source components and put the Typhon T2 on the amplifiers. You didn't say which power conditioner was powering the amps? Unless it is an Everest, it doesn't really matter which conditioner it is, including one of ours. The effects of a Typhon T2 on amplifiers cannot be overstated.

Originally Posted by CGabriel

I would keep your present layout. Keep the Denali on one wall for the source components and put the Typhon T2 on the amplifiers. You didn't say which power conditioner was powering the amps? Unless it is an Everest, it doesn't really matter which conditioner it is, including one of ours. The effects of a Typhon T2 on amplifiers cannot be overstated.

Caelin,

Thank you for the suggestion. If only it was that easy. The amplifiers (1 stereo or 2 monos seasonally) are on platforms between Sound Lab speakers. I need 4 outlets. Roger West swears power cords, etc. do not affect the Sound Labs because of the massive transformer and the resulting low voltage to the panels. Still, I can't bring myself to plug them into the wall or use factory power cords.

Currently the Sound Labs share an Audience AR6-TSSOX with the amplifiers. I have Delta v2 NRs on the Sound Labs. I felt they were a good cost compromise considering they were "allegedly" not going to be an improvement. They are an aesthetic improvement and flexible enough to assume the downward-facing-dog position required to insert into the top of the Sound Lab transformer box.

I wonder how the Typhon T2 would work in conjunction with the Everest, connected by the umbilical. Has anyone tried this combo?

Ken

Originally Posted by Alpinist

I wonder how the Typhon T2 would work in conjunction with the Everest, connected by the umbilical. Has anyone tried this combo?

Ken

Why? The Everest already contains the technology incorporated in the Typhon T2. And, if I am not mistaken, in the Everest the components are bigger and badder.

Originally Posted by Alpinist

I wonder how the Typhon T2 would work in conjunction with the Everest, connected by the umbilical. Has anyone tried this combo?

I already asked Shunyata that question. T2 is intended for power conditioners below Everest.

Originally Posted by Dizzie

Why? The Everest already contains the technology incorporated in the Typhon T2. And, if I am not mistaken, in the Everest the components are bigger and badder.

For an additional level of noise reduction in high EMI environments.

From the Shunyata website:

The Typhon T2 also comes equipped to receive an optional Performance or Reference level umbilical, allowing it to be connected in-line to any Shunyata power-distributor as a performance force-multiplier of the first order.

Ken

Originally Posted by brodricj

I already asked Shunyata that question. T2 is intended for power conditioners below Everest.

If that’s the case, then just stick with the Everest and be happy with it.

Ken

Originally Posted by Alpinist

I wonder how the Typhon T2 would work in conjunction with the Everest, connected by the umbilical. Has anyone tried this combo?

Ken

Just to clarify: The TYPHON T2 was created specifically to be a mate to the Denali 6000/2 v2. When combined with the Denali it is an 8 outlet distributor, with two high current outlets dedicated to amplifiers. The Denali, T2 stack is the answer for people that have asked for a "shelf mount" version of the Everest. (Although it was created with the Denali in mind, it is also compatible with any of our other power conditioners including older models like the Hydra Model-8, VRay or Tritons.). The one exception to this is the Everest. Pairing the Everest with the T2 is not a good match. Too much of a good thing is too much.

The TYPHON T2 has the same QR/BB engine as that in the Everest.
Therefore, in some systems, the Denali 6000/S v2 and TT2 stack may perform slightly better than an Everest. But all that is highly dependent upon each individual system.

Both the Everest and the Denali/T2 stack are world-class in performance and they are extremely close in overall performance. The deciding factor on which to choose would probably be form factor. Do you prefer a vertical stand-alone power distributor or a more conventional shelf mount unit. In our reference system, we use the Everest to power the Constellation preamp, amplifiers and active crossover. We use a Denali 6000/S v2 and TT2 stack to power the Aurender and dCS digital stack.

The other major application for the T2 is as a stand-alone power distributor for high power amplifiers. A typcial application would be to use an Everest for the front-end equipment and the Typhon T2 to power the amplifier(s) off a separate dedicated line. There is a 30A Typhon option that will be available in January.

Originally Posted by CGabriel

Just to clarify: The TYPHON T2 was created specifically to be a mate to the Denali 6000/2 v2. When combined with the Denali it is an 8 outlet distributor, with two high current outlets dedicated to amplifiers. The Denali, T2 stack is the answer for people that have asked for a "shelf mount" version of the Everest. (Although it was created with the Denali in mind, it is also compatible with any of our other power conditioners including older models like the Hydra Model-8, VRay or Tritons.). The one exception to this is the Everest. Pairing the Everest with the T2 is not a good match. Too much of a good thing is too much.

The TYPHON T2 has the same QR/BB engine as that in the Everest.
Therefore, in some systems, the Denali 6000/S v2 and TT2 stack may perform slightly better than an Everest. But all that is highly dependent upon each individual system.

Both the Everest and the Denali/T2 stack are world-class in performance and they are extremely close in overall performance. The deciding factor on which to choose would probably be form factor. Do you prefer a vertical stand-alone power distributor or a more conventional shelf mount unit. In our reference system, we use the Everest to power the Constellation preamp, amplifiers and active crossover. We use a Denali 6000/S v2 and TT2 stack to power the Aurender and dCS digital stack.

The other major application for the T2 is as a stand-alone power distributor for high power amplifiers. A typcial application would be to use an Everest for the front-end equipment and the Typhon T2 to power the amplifier(s) off a separate dedicated line. There is a 30A Typhon option that will be available in January.

Hi Caelin,

Thanks for your thorough response and the clarification.

Best,
Ken

Originally Posted by strojo

@CGabriel - running a simple setup with a Boulder stereo amp and Lumin X1 DAC/streamer. Is there any potential downside to running those two items off a single Typhon T2, or would I be better off separating the source and amp on two separate units?

There is no downside to connecting both components to a single TT2. If however, you are using two separate dedicated AC lines for each component, then I would recommend two TT2s. But I think you will be more than happy with a single TT2.

(and JFYI, the @CGabriel does nothing to notify me. I just happened to see your post)

So... what improvement could I expect if I put a TYPHON T2 in front of each of my amplifiers, which are presently plugged straight into the wall?

Right now my PassLabs XS300 amps are on Shunyata Sigma HC power cords plugged directly into the wall... each on its own dedicated circuit.

What would have the most positive impact on my system...

Adding a TT2 for each amplifier?
Or upgrading the power cords (which are 2 or 3 generations behind the current ones) to the latest Omega power cords and going directly to the wall?

Or should I hold off on either for now and instead look at getting properly grounded with the Altaira?

Originally Posted by The Sandman

Right now my PassLabs XS300 amps are on Shunyata Sigma HC power cords plugged directly into the wall... each on its own dedicated circuit.

What would have the most positive impact on my system...

Adding a TT2 for each amplifier?
Or upgrading the power cords (which are 2 or 3 generations behind the current ones) to the latest Omega power cords and going directly to the wall?

Or should I hold off on either for now and instead look at getting properly grounded with the Altaira?

I would suggest upgrading the power cords first to Omega level versus the 2 generation back Sigma HC as the biggest opportunity for improvement of all those great options given where you are today.


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