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March 27, 2020, 06:21 PM #1
Shunyata Reference Series V2
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March 27, 2020, 08:50 PM #2
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Very, very nice.
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March 27, 2020, 09:36 PM #3
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Is this their new top of line power cable?
Bud
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Sony XA-5400ES SACD
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Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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March 28, 2020, 01:51 AM #4
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March 28, 2020, 02:12 AM #5
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
twice the MSRP of the previous series, right?
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March 28, 2020, 08:47 AM #6My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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March 28, 2020, 09:53 AM #7
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Hi Mike,
When will they be available and will the MSRP change?Paul
Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Pre-Amp PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply
Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS, Stillpoints LPI
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Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE
SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7, Shunyata Delta NR (I) Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB)
AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.
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March 28, 2020, 10:14 AM #8
Shunyata Reference Series V2
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March 28, 2020, 11:07 AM #9
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Are they included in the 20% off spring promotion?
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March 28, 2020, 11:08 AM #10
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
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March 28, 2020, 11:10 AM #11
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Any close-out offers on the old series?
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March 28, 2020, 11:18 AM #12
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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March 28, 2020, 11:38 AM #13
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Just received word that V2 cables can start shipping Monday!!
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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March 28, 2020, 01:36 PM #14
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
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March 28, 2020, 01:54 PM #15
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Two questions. I couldn’t find the answers on Shunyata’s web site.
What is the difference between the XC and NR model in each version?
Edit. Found answer in another thread.
What is the difference between the Sigma version at $3500 to the Omega QR at $9000?
Thanks.Bud
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Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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March 28, 2020, 03:00 PM #16
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
The Omega QR has an in-line QR/BB device; the Sigma NR V2 does not. I don't know what other differences there may be between the two cables, e.g. AWG, construction, or materials technology, etc.
I do know that the construction of the Omega QR is very complex and sophisticated and takes the manufacturing operator a full week to construct by hand. This is one of the reasons it costs more than the Sigma NR V2.
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March 28, 2020, 04:17 PM #17Paul
Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Pre-Amp PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply
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Tape Deck Otari 5050B II2
Music Server: Aurender N100H
Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE
SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7, Shunyata Delta NR (I) Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB)
AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.
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March 29, 2020, 06:28 PM #18
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
The Alpha V2 NRs (2 of them) and Sigma V2 NR that I've been testing here for the last 1 month+ plus
are a significant leap ahead in all categories of imaging, tonal accuracy, pacing, soundstage in all 3 dimensions and good old-fashioned
musical enjoyment. Let's just say they are extremely good and worth trying.
If memory serves,the "XC" is also meant to be used if you want an umbilical between Typhon (QR and prior) and Triton (V3 and prior) from what Caelin told me.Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
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March 29, 2020, 06:40 PM #19
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
https://shunyata.com/products/power-...-nr-xc-series/
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March 29, 2020, 06:54 PM #20
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
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April 2, 2020, 02:59 PM #21
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Hi Caelin.
Could you tell me when the new SigmaV2 will be available for the European market (Schuko)Francisco
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April 2, 2020, 03:19 PM #22
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Yes, we have EU models in inventory now. We are working with our EU distributors to get them into the countries. However, as you know the CCP-Virus has many businesses and entire countries closed down. So contact your country's Shunyata distributor please and ask them what they can do. Look on our website the list of distributors.
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April 2, 2020, 03:32 PM #23
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Oh Caelin, after two Denali, four Sigma NR and two Alpha NR, I assure you I know who the distribuidor
Francisco
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April 2, 2020, 04:19 PM #24
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Hi Caelin,
Is the major and only difference between a Sigma NR and Sigma NR V2 the new VTX silver conductor?
Outside of the physical appearance of the cable.
Additionally, do you feel that it will be worthwhile for me to try out the Sigma XC to replace an original Sigma HC on my Denali 6000T to the wall?
In the previous generation, many felt that it wouldn't be worthwhile given the cost to upgrade from an original Sigma HC to a Sigma EF. For conditioner to wall connection.
However, was curious if the leap this generation might be worth a try.
The new V2 cables I'm sure will be a great success and hope all is well in WA state. Reading the news about COVID-19 :-(
Looking forward to your Denali 8/8000T and its eventual release as well.
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April 2, 2020, 05:32 PM #25
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
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April 2, 2020, 05:47 PM #26
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
The differences between v1 series and v2 series cables include the conductors, connectors and the NR filters.
The most significant change is, of course, the conductors which is the heart and soul of a power cable. Pardon me if I pull content from the brochure:
VTX-AG CONDUCTORS
Reference NR Series cables feature an advancement in conductor technology that combines the transient speed and definition of pure silver with the warmth, power, and body of pure copper. VTX-Ag has a core conductor of pure silver with an outer concentric conductor of high-purity OFE copper. VTX-Ag provides significant improvements in dynamics, timing precision, and low-level resolution while preserving the subtle tonal, textural, and timbral signatures that bring music to life.
ADVANCED NOISE REDUCTION
Noise is an insidious problem that originates from many sources, including audio components themselves. Shunyata Research power cords employ proprietary internal noise reduction filters that intercept noise, preventing it from propagating to other components. NR filters are specifically engineered to be non-reactive and compatible with all power supply designs including high-power amplifiers. This multi-element, wide- bandwidth noise-reduction technology was developed by Shunyata Research’s medical division, Clear Image Scientific, to improve the performance of medical imaging systems in cardiology and neurosurgery.
CopperCONNTM CONNECTORS
Shunyata Research has developed its own line of CopperCONNTM connectors that feature solid copper contacts and true carbon-fiber head-shells (Alpha and Sigma models) that have anti-vibration qualities. These connectors are not just beautiful; they functionally reduce micro-distortions due to the carbon fiber’s unique energy absorbing vibration reduction qualities.
Additionally, do you feel that it will be worthwhile for me to try out the Sigma XC to replace an original Sigma HC on my Denali 6000T to the wall?
In the previous generation, many felt that it wouldn't be worthwhile given the cost to upgrade from an original Sigma HC to a Sigma EF. For conditioner to wall connection.
However, was curious if the leap this generation might be worth a try.
Is it worth upgrading to the Sigma XC? That is a value judgement and only your enjoyment versus pocketbook can answer that. But from an absolute performance perspective -- there is no doubt, none.
You might seek out SCAudiophile. I think he is on this forum. He has a Sigma XC that replaced a Sigma NR v1 on his Triton v3 / Typhon QR rig. He would be a good source of first hand information.
I hope this helps,
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April 2, 2020, 06:08 PM #27
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Thank you.
However, I should clarify that I would be considering upgrading my original Sigma HC to a Sigma XC. For Denali to Wall.
So, should be quite a jump in performance given that is two generations.
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April 2, 2020, 06:16 PM #28
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Hi Mpd632,
I've been testing the new Sigma XC for about a week now, and in my testing it is ideal as a power cable for power distributors/conditioner e.g. Denalis, Triton V3s, etc. No, wait, It is frickin' amazing as a power cord for power conditioners.
The new Sigma XC (and the new Sigma NR v2) represent signficant improvement over the previous generations Sigma power cords, and in my experience, provide a completely new and "breakthrough" level of improvement.
I'll be posting my review of the new Sigma NR (which COMPLETELY blew my mind) v2 shortly, but let me speak to the new XC:
The new XC is not quite as quiet as the new Sigma NR V2 PC (as you would expect from not having an NR noise filter). Instead it trades off incredible speed, dynamics, quickness for some degree of noise reduction functionality. It has a beautiful crisp and clean musical presentation that reminds me of a medium-format photograph from the 100 megapixel Fujfilm GFX100.
Using the Sigma XC, the presenation is FAST, FAST, FAST and CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN and CRISP, but never edgy, glare-y or strident. Again, think of perfectly sharp photo from the GFX100.
Dynamic Transient Current Delivery (DTCD) is the key functional response for this type of power cord, and the new Sigma XC delivers DTCD at a level of performance that I have, quite simply, never experienced before.
In summing up: for PDs (power distributors), the new Sigma XC sets new performance for this type of power cord. I know that statement might sound familiar from other audio reviews, but let state this again: I have NEVER experienced the degree of improvement from power cords that I've experienced from the new Sigma XC and NR v2 PCs.
For components, the new Sigma NR v2 is gobsmackingly-good. More on that baby shortly.
Hope this helps and happy to answer any other questions.
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April 2, 2020, 06:28 PM #29
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April 2, 2020, 07:20 PM #30
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
This a tough act to follow Puma so I will simply note that "YES, ME TOO" on all the points you mention. For added details, the new conductors and connectors
in and off themselves on the Sigma v2 (both types) and Alpha NR v2 (I have been running Alpha NR V2s and Sigma NR v2s for quite a few weeks) are quite
literally a drastic sea change in sound profile overall that have added to Shunyata power cords incredible pacing, transparency, dynamic range, sound stage
accuracy and specificity to AND tonal accuracy AND dimension (as if the foregoing were not enough) over and above the prior generations. This seriously, an
entire new level of play (or playback as the case may be) and the difference to my ears is night and day over the prior generation.
For XC, power conditioners definitely benefit and NR, anything with a digital circuit in it of any kind will quickly show you what this latest generation is made of.
*A word on budget, cost of upgrade, ROI, etc....if for some reason jumping to Sigma NR v2 or XC v2 is not feasible and your sitting at prior Sigma or Anaconda
of any kind, I would heartily recommend jumping up to Alpha V2 if Sigma is not attainable. The 2 Alpha NR V2s I am running now besting the prior Sigma NR (v1) cables
I was using, hands-down, no b.s. Floored me and I'm still amazed at what I heard.
Alpha NR V2 (and XC I would guess) are "the" sweet spot in the line. I have told Caelin on countless occasions that I cannot believe still just what Alpha NR v2 did
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April 3, 2020, 01:40 AM #32
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
I know what the message is regarding powercord into the Triton V3. But did anyone actually had the chance to compare an XC vs Sigma V2 NR into a Triton V3?
Since I use one with multi amps that one seems logical to run XC into but the other one full of electronics mostly digital gear. Wouldnt noise reduction win over absolute current delivery? Is there something I am missing in the picture here?
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April 3, 2020, 01:05 PM #34
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
No. For a power cord powering a Triton V3, the XC would be the better choice because it has improved DTCD functionality over, say, a Sigma NR V2. While you certainly can power a Triton with a Sigma NR V2 and get superb, excellent performance, the fact of the matter is the XC works and sounds better than a Sigma NR V2 when it comes to powering a PD (power distributor). I've done this comparison directly using Denali V2, and Denali should be very comparable to Triton V3 with respect to powering components (Triton V3 has a more sophisticated *NR grounding* system, but that's an aside to this discussion).
Your Triton V3 will provide sufficient NR for the components plugged into it. If you want to improve this further, put a Shunyata NR PC on each component that is plugged into your Triton V3. This will provide an addtional level of noise reduction from noise coming back out from the component's internal PS. If you have 100% digital components (i.e, there is no D/A conversion), say, a streamer, network bridge, Ethernet switch, FMC, router, music server, use a Venon V14D Digital. If by digital, you mean a DAC or disc player, use a Venom NR-V10 or higher NR PC.
NR PC for components, XC PCs for PDs. There's another post here describing the differences and rationale as how to most effectively use the new NR v2 and XC PCs.
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April 3, 2020, 05:59 PM #35
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April 3, 2020, 06:51 PM #36
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
No, the DTCD is same....
The NR PCs were designed to prevent noise from the components internal power supply from coming back out of the component to be distributed to the rest of the power distribution chain.
There is no reason for a power cord powering a power distributor (PD) to use an NR filter because a power distributor not have a power supply.
So...
XCs for PDs
NRs for components
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April 3, 2020, 08:10 PM #37
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April 3, 2020, 08:48 PM #38
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
While I would like to upgrade, being retired has me a bit hesitant about spending money. I would need three Sigma XCs, and three Sigma NRs. That adds up fast.
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April 4, 2020, 06:52 AM #39
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
BlueFox, see it from a positive side, finally the VTX-Ag is here with an improved NR. For me this signals that there will be some real tangible sonic benefits. You could start with one XC and one NR on your frontend, see where it takes you. I did order 2+2 and yes it quickly adds up, perhaps more than a refresh of 4 cables should do.
For me the Sigma Digital V1 didn't have that ease of flow which I got more from my Furutech NCF/DPS4.1 loom on my preamp. I hope that the NR2 will bring that ease as well as fantastic noise reduction, hopefully it will be the best of both worlds.
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April 4, 2020, 07:45 AM #40
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Crion , welcome to the forum.
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April 7, 2020, 08:41 PM #41
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
The reasoning is difficult to follow. Having seen the YouTube video of what the NR technology does, putting a NR between the wall and the power distributor sees the noise reduction benefit of that one cable shared to all those components connected to the power distributor i.e. stop the noise before it gets distributed anywhere else.
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April 7, 2020, 08:46 PM #42
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
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April 7, 2020, 08:51 PM #43
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
What if you are using a AQ Niagara 7000 or 5000? Still Sigma XC? Or best to stick with AQ power cords?
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April 7, 2020, 09:01 PM #44
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Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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April 10, 2020, 11:22 AM #45
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Francisco
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April 10, 2020, 11:51 AM #46
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
I hope we will be celebrating soon. 😃
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April 10, 2020, 02:33 PM #47
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
By the way, if someone in Europe (Schuko) is interested I am selling my Sigma NR, C19 connector at a good price.
Francisco
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April 11, 2020, 02:08 PM #48
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
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Francisco
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April 16, 2020, 05:57 AM #49
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Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
Got a 5 week ETA time, built to order on 4 EU sigmaxc/alphanr cables message from dealer. Does this sound right?
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April 16, 2020, 12:42 PM #50
Re: Shunyata Reference Series V2
That seems about right for an international order. I know it can sometimes take a week or so for the order to move through Shunyata's manufacturing system.
As best as I understand it, Shunyata is "LEAN" with respect to manufacturing, which means they build products based on customer "pull". This is the best way for a company to manufacture products as it drives maximal quality and consistency, and allows the company to be profitable (and it's those profits that are used to fund R&D for new products). It also benefits the customer by keeping the price down compared to "batch and queue" manufacturing, where there are considerable costs associated with holding a large amount of manufactured products in inventory, which results in higher prices for customers.
So, almost all orders are built-to-order.
Then it might take a week or so to ship to Sweden and it likely will take a minimum of a week to clear customs in Sweden, then some time to get from customs to the distributor, then to the retailer, then to you.
By way of example, I ordered a DC cable from Ghent Audio in China last year and the cable was manufactured in one day, then sat at China PO Customs for two weeks prior to be shipped out to me in the USA. So, it took 3 weeks to get to me, even though Ghent had it manufactured within a day or so.
So...with a back of the envelope calculation, the lead time seems about right.
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