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u-sound
thy you two for the clear answer.
is it because the everest doesnt benefit from any stand?
i remember you did put your one on a stand.
do you think the nagra-base could even be bad?
maybe i would like it for optical reasons, the dimensions are perfect, 2cm longer and 7 wider than the everest.
i will decide tomorrow.
Once again, the answer is: it depends. Everyone has different types of floors made out of diffferent materials or construction methods; the entire set of devices function as a system, and because it is a system, the devices and other things, from a systems engineering perspective, can interact. I know that many folks in this hobby like like definitive answers, but in audio, there aren't any. You're going to have try different approaches.
Everest has superb vibration damping that Caelin engineered in. From the cabinet sides, to the receptables, to the footers and even the proprietary polymer that is on the bottom of the SS footers.
Given that Everest has superb intrinsic damping characteristics, it might be worth trying an isolation footers, e.g. Norm Varney's EVPs rather an mechanical grounding type of footer (e.g metal cones, spikes or Stillpoints) with it, either directly on the floor, or, on a good platform e.g a piece of slate, granite, rock maple, or bamboo.
EVPs:
https://photos.imageevent.com/puma_c...P-Family_1.jpg
My experience in general with the Shunyata PDs is they like a nice, solid platform to rest on that has mass. You want the simplest setup that works, so this may be just placing it directly on the floor as Mike does, or in my case, I placed it on a rock maple board resting on the standard cork & rubber antivibration pads.
I'll likely get in some more EVPs as I need to put a set under my REL sub, and I'll try just placing those direclty under Everest, or placing them under my rock maple board in place of the cork & rubber anti-vibration pads.
Here's a photo my current set-up: https://photos.imageevent.com/puma_c...ck_Left-L4.jpg
With respect to your Nagra platform...try it and see what you think. Then, try it directly on the floor. Get a nice piece of hard wood, like maple, walnut, or bamboo, granite, or slate, and try it with that underneath Everest. Get some cork & rubber pads, or hard wooden blocks, and put those under the platform on the floor. Get some EVPs from A/V Roomservice and try those directly under Everest, or...as footers under the platform. Its likely going to sound different with all these different approaches. One of them will sound the best, but I can't tell you which ones will, you'll have to do some experimentation.
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Puma Cat
My experience in general with the Shunyata PDs is they like a nice, solid platform to rest on that has mass...
In that case, the concrete floor of my house would have infinitely greater mass than any other solid platform I care to think of that I might rest one of these things on.
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My last afternoon, together with my dear Denali 6000 V2 :(
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nonesup
My last afternoon, together with my dear Denali 6000 V2 :(
You'll forget about the Denali max around 30 seconds in.
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Bar81
You'll forget about the Denali max around 30 seconds in.
Yup....
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I just couldn't resist anymore ......:woot:
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Well, I would have liked to attach an image of my new Everest, but for some reason alone, I can enter a url, it doesn't give me the option to attach a local file
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I think that if you click on”Go Advanced” you’ll find an option to add an attachment. Cannot claim it will work, as I’ve never tried it.
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Thanks Steve, but in Advanced, the option to attach local file does not appear either.
Maybe Mike knows why
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Without a doubt, this site is the hardest site on the Internet to add an image to a post. I gave up yesterday trying to add an image.
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BlueFox
Without a doubt, this site is the hardest site on the Internet to add an image to a post. I gave up yesterday trying to add an image.
Actually, Bud, its not hard, but you will need an account at an image hosting service like ImageEvent, SmugMug, or FlickR.
I'll put up a message shortly on how to do this.
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Strange, before it did allow uploading local files. Any problem occurred?
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nonesup
Strange, before it did allow uploading local files. Any problem occurred?
No, this was changed a few weeks back because this function was causing a lot of error modes resulting in duplicate posts.
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So...to post a photo or other image is actually pretty easy.
First, you need your photo "hosted" at an image hosting service e.g., FlickR or Imagevent, etc. I use ImageEvent personally. IIRC, a basic ImageEvent account is only about $24.95/year.
You can upload photos from to either service from your desktop to a gallery of your choice that you've created. Once your photo is uploaded to the image hosting service, there is a window (field in computer parlance) that lets you copy the image's URL address on the image hosting service.
Here's a gallery I created on ImageEvent for Stereo pix. You can upload to this web page any files you have resident on your computer.
https://photos.imageevent.com/puma_c...28.05%20PM.jpg
If you click on an image the gallery, it will come up in the various sizes (dimensions that you have set up for the files for viewing, e.g. 800 pixels, wide, 1080 pixels wide, etc.) Go down to the bottom left, highlight (NOTE: shown in yellow) and copy the link in the lower part of the window as shown:
https://photos.imageevent.com/puma_c...29.12%20PM.jpg
Once you have copied the link to image file, in the window here on AS, click on the picture link button along the top (fourth one from left in the right most panel of tools). Then paste your image link in between the [img][/img] brackets...
Final image linked here of a lifestyle shot of my audio rack...
https://photos.imageevent.com/puma_c...iew_Master.jpg
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Puma Cat
Actually, Bud, its not hard, but you will need an account at an image hosting service like ImageEvent, SmugMug, or FlickR.
I'll put up a message shortly on how to do this.
No. I just to load a picture from my iPad. Like on every other site.
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Puma Cat
I cannot find any cables. Were they removed for photography purpose or you’ve achieved “god mode” in cable management? In that case, you’ll have to teach me. [emoji4]
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kzhtoo
I cannot find any cables. Were they removed for photography purpose or you’ve achieved “god mode” in cable management? In that case, you’ll have to teach me. [emoji4]
No, I removed the cables for a clean look for this lifestyle type of photo.
If you look at speaker ad photos, you won't see any cables, either.
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Interesting how tall the Shunyata power conditioner is. I only need three sockets so I hope they can make a smaller model.
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BlueFox
Interesting how tall the Shunyata power conditioner is. I only need three sockets so I hope they can make a smaller model.
It's a shame the D2000's are discontinued, I would be interested in a three socket version too.
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They gave us a teaser a few weeks ago that something smaller is in the pipeline....
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It's not complicated - I just tried it, it's pretty much like every other site. You upload the photo via the attachment manager. Although on other sites you have the option to put up a thumbnail instead of the full photo. Not sure how to do that here.
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Well my Everest is a week old. Truly an amazing product: orchestral density, spatial imaging, dynamics (looks like I bought a more powerful amp) and practically eliminating the digital hash left in the system. An absolute recommendation.
Just something negative, I have done several tests and in my opinion if you want to get the most of Everest, just use one of the outputs 1y2 and 7y8. For maximum quality it is a 6 output device, IMO
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glad you like it and very interesting observation.
question: are the feets removable?
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Not sure why anybody would contemplate removing the feet....the engineering of the feet is integral to the design of the chassis.
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everest at home! this is very tall yet good looking.
the sound? i dont know because the powercord from the wall doesnt fit, the everest side seems to be us style. while output 1-8 is europe style. the dealer didnt tell me anything about that complication. and the shop is closed now.
i have seen now, there is an adapter available but i really dont want to run the everest with an adapter.
what should i do? is there no full europe version?
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Can you take a picture of the back?
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Its just the 20A inlet that's confusing him.
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Yeah, just use an adapter.
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brodricj
Yeah, just use an adapter.
I would avoid doing that. Ask Caelin and he'll warn as well. Always avoid any additional contacts as it impinges on the current flow. Get the cable replaced for the correct one.
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nonesup
Can you take a picture of the back?
right now no. last time i failed when i tryed, got to learn it first how it works here at audioshark.
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When the choice is, not being able to use it because you don't have the right cable, or use an adapter, use the adapter.
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Bar81
Its just the 20A inlet that's confusing him.
can you elaborate on this. confused or not, it doesnt fit and it has to. no other way! may i just change that inlet?
i think a full europe version must be available?
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thx for all the answers btw !!!
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brodricj
When the choice is, not being able to use it because you don't have the right cable, or use an adapter, use the adapter.
i dont mind using an adapter for a couple of weeks, but not as a definitive solution
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All Shunyata power distributors use 20A inlets. What you have is the full EU version.
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u-sound
can you elaborate on this. confused or not, it doesnt fit and it has to. no other way! may i just change that inlet?
i think a full europe version must be available?
You need one of these:
Shunyata - 15Amp Cable to 20Amp Component Adapter (ea) | Shop Music Direct
It should be fine if you're using the Everest only for front end. If you also have your amps connected to the Everest, then you need to have your PC reterminated with a 20A IEC (for example: http://www.furutech.com/2016/05/19/13044/) or purchase a new PC to the wall with a 20A IEC.
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u-sound
i dont mind using an adapter for a couple of weeks, but not as a definitive solution
I use an adapter on my Denali. It's not something I need to worry about.
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brodricj
All Shunyata power distributors use 20A inlets. What you have is the full EU version.
lol, how dumb i am. finally i understand it. thx all.
luckily the shop was closed already as i wanted to call the dealer and shout at him. now going to please him for an adapter
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i might look at the inlet tomorrow how hard and possible a change to a 15a inlet would be.
not very recommended i guess
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u-sound
i might look at the inlet tomorrow how hard and possible a change to a 15a inlet would be.
not very recommended i guess
That's not something that should ever be an option that you're considering. Don't mess with the Everest.
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Bar81
Don't mess with the Everest.
the highest of all distributors:)
i wont touch that inlet, promised. leaning towards an adapter or a dedicated cord
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u-sound
the highest of all distributors:)
i wont touch that inlet, promised. leaning towards an adapter or a dedicated cord
I cannot remember if Everest comes with a 20A stock power cord. Did you check the box again? As for me, I have an AQ Hurricane 20A cable from when I used it with Denali, so I didn’t really have to use stock 20A cable.
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bought a nude everest.
no box or anything. ripped it out of the dealers system.
i wish i had this stockcord for the moment
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Everest comes without cable.
You have bought an amazing device, my advice is not to spoil it with an inappropriate cable.
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gracias francisco. i think you are absolutely right.
final solution might be omega xc. may be an adapter first until cash reloads.
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That would be a great solution to the problem
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u-sound
gracias francisco. i think you are absolutely right.
final solution might be omega xc. may be an adapter first until cash reloads.
A Sigma XC will work really well, also, and free up some cash...
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Originally Posted by
u-sound
everest at home! this is very tall yet good looking.
the sound? i dont know because the powercord from the wall doesnt fit, the everest side seems to be us style. while output 1-8 is europe style. the dealer didnt tell me anything about that complication. and the shop is closed now.
i have seen now, there is an adapter available but i really dont want to run the everest with an adapter.
what should i do? is there no full europe version?
Hi, I think there is some confusion about the female power input on the Everest 8000. All of our power distributors use a 20A (C-19) power input connection. This is a universal connection in all countries. It requires a power cord with that same connection on the end of the power cord. The reason we use these is that they are more secure than 15A connections and present a solid connection. It is true you will need a 20A IEC fitted power cord for that application.
I would add that for a product like the Everest, the power cord from Everest to the wall determines system performance to a larger degree than power cords to electronics. This is because the power cord to the wall supports the current for multiple components. For each additional component you plug into Everest, the power cord to the wall takes on a cumulatively larger role. We recommend Alpha XC power cord or larger, depending on the system context and the amount of current being drawn through Everest.
If we can be of any help with further specifics or recommendations, please don't hesitate to contact us via phone or e-mail at your convenience.
Thanks, I hope this is of some help.
Best regards,
Grant