Do we have any Wilson Sabrina owners here ? ....

[joeinid]

Would love to read owners (or those who've really heard them) opinions on these little guys.

I admit to having had a brief bad demo one day (with the same day being amazing with Sasha 2) but do not count that day against the Sabrina.

I'd love some honest opinions on these, maybe for a third (Ha!) system.

[BobNY]

Joe,
I have spent a ton of time with the Sabrina's. They are one of my favorite speakers. For my ears, they do everything right. Big soundstage, deep tight bass and great 3D image. Definitely try to give them another listen. They always bring a smile to my face when I sit and listen to them.

[BruceLet]

Joe,
I have spent a ton of time with the Sabrina's. They are one of my favorite speakers. For my ears, they do everything right. Big soundstage, deep tight bass and great 3D image. Definitely try to give them another listen. They always bring a smile to my face when I sit and listen to them.

What amps have you heard them with? With the low impedance dip, do they require a solid state amp?

[joeinid]

Thank you so much Bob. I know, every report and article that I've read has been wonderful.

Like Bruce asks, any "particular" (brand/type) amp work better than others? One of the reviews that I read states that impedance dips to around 2.4 ohms. A bit low for some amps.

I love the looks.

Joe,
I have spent a ton of time with the Sabrina's. They are one of my favorite speakers. For my ears, they do everything right. Big soundstage, deep tight bass and great 3D image. Definitely try to give them another listen. They always bring a smile to my face when I sit and listen to them.

[BobNY]

Most of the time they live in a system using Moon Neo electronics. The amp is 125w at 8 ohm, 250w at 4 ohm and has no problem keep up. When I first received them I hooked them up to a pair of McIntosh MC-75's for a while. They sounded great, but I felt they were a little light on power. Other amps I have had hooked up include a Ayre VX-5 Twenty and a Parasound A21. Those both did a great Job. I have a few more amps I have been meaning to hook up to them and haven't got the chance yet. These include a Constellation Inspiration, ARC REF-150 and a Moon Evolution 860A. So far I haven't run into any troubles with the amps I have tried. Even the MC-75's could work depending on listening habits. They did sound REALLY good together.

[joeinid]

Thank you so much.

Most of the time they live in a system using Moon Neo electronics. The amp is 125w at 8 ohm, 250w at 4 ohm and has no problem keep up. When I first received them I hooked them up to a pair of McIntosh MC-75's for a while. They sounded great, but I felt they were a little light on power. Other amps I have had hooked up include a Ayre VX-5 Twenty and a Parasound A21. Those both did a great Job. I have a few more amps I have been meaning to hook up to them and haven't got the chance yet. These include a Constellation Inspiration, ARC REF-150 and a Moon Evolution 860A. So far I haven't run into any troubles with the amps I have tried. Even the MC-75's could work depending on listening habits. They did sound REALLY good together.

[Dr Tone]

My signature has the details.

I moved from Focal 1028BEs and IMO the Sabrinas are in a completely different league. Such a small stature yet such a big full sound.

A couple of things I find amazing:
1) Elevated sound stage. They aren't the tallest speakers yet they project the soundstage at the right height.
2) The bass. A small speaker yet they pump out the bass. I only listen to Rock and Jazz and have no need for more bottom end.
3) Low volume sweetness. They just sound so great at low volumes.

[nile49]

Dr would you mind comparing and contrasting your Sabrina's to the Focals you had? I have and am quite enjoying my 1028be's (I think they are a great match for my Luxman) but I never intended them to be destination speakers. Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
Thanks, Warren


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[Dr Tone]

Dr would you mind comparing and contrasting your Sabrina's to the Focals you had? I have and am quite enjoying my 1028be's (I think they are a great match for my Luxman) but I never intended them to be destination speakers. Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
Thanks, Warren


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1) Sabrinas are much fuller sounding and the center image is more forward. 1028BEs center image is rather recessed and thin in comparison.
2) Sabrinas tweeter, mid and bass drivers just melt togethor. Such a well integrated sound. Not so much with 1028BEs, a little disconnected in comparison.
3) I could never get the 1028BEs to completely disappear in the soundstage. Sabrina's no problem. I'm constantly amazed seeing the sabrinas yet not localizing any sound coming directly from them.
4) 1028BEs are a little hot up top in comparison.
5) Sound stage is lower on the 1028BEs even though they are the taller speaker.
6) 1028BEs had a little bit of boom to the bass in my room in comparison to the sabrinas.
7) The sabrinas are a little laid back in comparison, where the 1028BEs are more forward and punchy.
8) Sabrinas sound waaaaaay better at low volumes.

Ultimately for me I can listen to the Sabrinas for long extended periods without fatigue. Couldn't do that with the Focals.

[nile49]

Oh boy! Those sound awesome!

How are they turned up a bit?


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[kzhtoo]

1) Sabrinas are much fuller sounding and the center image is more forward. 1028BEs center image is rather recessed and thin in comparison.
2) Sabrinas tweeter, mid and bass drivers just melt togethor. Such a well integrated sound. Not so much with 1028BEs, a little disconnected in comparison.
3) I could never get the 1028BEs to completely disappear in the soundstage. Sabrina's no problem. I'm constantly amazed seeing the sabrinas yet not localizing any sound coming directly from them.
4) 1028BEs are a little hot up top in comparison.
5) Sound stage is lower on the 1028BEs even though they are the taller speaker.
6) 1028BEs had a little bit of boom to the bass in my room in comparison to the sabrinas.
7) The sabrinas are a little laid back in comparison, where the 1028BEs are more forward and punchy.
8) Sabrinas sound waaaaaay better at low volumes.

Ultimately for me I can listen to the Sabrinas for long extended periods without fatigue. Couldn't do that with the Focals.

You make it sound like 1028 Be are cheapo Bestbuy off the shelves. lol I find Electra midrange is their strong suit and center image has a bloom. And when it's done right (class A wattage and Siltech cabling) the top end never gets hot or fatiguing. Granted I have 1038 Be and not 1028's.

[tane0019]

1) Sabrinas are much fuller sounding and the center image is more forward. 1028BEs center image is rather recessed and thin in comparison.
2) Sabrinas tweeter, mid and bass drivers just melt togethor. Such a well integrated sound. Not so much with 1028BEs, a little disconnected in comparison.
3) I could never get the 1028BEs to completely disappear in the soundstage. Sabrina's no problem. I'm constantly amazed seeing the sabrinas yet not localizing any sound coming directly from them.
4) 1028BEs are a little hot up top in comparison.
5) Sound stage is lower on the 1028BEs even though they are the taller speaker.
6) 1028BEs had a little bit of boom to the bass in my room in comparison to the sabrinas.
7) The sabrinas are a little laid back in comparison, where the 1028BEs are more forward and punchy.
8) Sabrinas sound waaaaaay better at low volumes.

Ultimately for me I can listen to the Sabrinas for long extended periods without fatigue. Couldn't do that with the Focals.

Look like a potential upgrade for me ............... although I promise myself earlier no more spk/amp upgrade for the next 2-3 years

Seriously, heard Sabrina once. For such a "small" spk, the sound is BIG & WIDE

Maybe because of the low freq (this spk can goes low) that bring out the mid & high to a different level.

[nile49]

Last night I dreamt I bought these. Uh oh...


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[Mike]

Last night I dreamt I bought these. Uh oh...


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An omen! What color were they in your dream?

[nile49]

Haha I was actually just wondering that myself. I think they were as shown in the photo.

I question how well they would pair with my Luxman 590aX. At any rate I won't be making any moves anytime soon. Now if I could just get that into my subconscious...


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[Mike]

Haha I was actually just wondering that myself. I think they were as shown in the photo.

I question how well they would pair with my Luxman 590aX. At any rate I won't be making any moves anytime soon. Now if I could just get that into my subconscious...


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[nile49]

Hahahaha!

[Dr Tone]

You make it sound like 1028 Be are cheapo Bestbuy off the shelves. lol I find Electra midrange is their strong suit and center image has a bloom. And when it's done right (class A wattage and Siltech cabling) the top end never gets hot or fatiguing. Granted I have 1038 Be and not 1028's.

When I had to plug my 1028BEs back in after demoing the Sabrinas at home for a week, I wanted to curl up cry. I ended up ordering the Sabrinas 2 days later.

Heard the 1038BEs once, they are definitely fuller sounding than the 1028BEs but would have overpowered my room something fierce.

[Dr Tone]

Oh boy! Those sound awesome!

How are they turned up a bit?

I live in a condo so I don't want to piss my neighbors off. But I've read in a couple reviews that they hold up well when turned up, maybe other owners can help you with this question.

[pingpong]

Hi fellow Sabrina owners,

I am a proud owner of the galaxy gray Sabrina since Dec 15. Currently using the modwright kwi200 (200w) int amp to push the Sabrina, and is considering to replace the amp with Accuphase E600 class A int amp, conservative power rating is 30w at 8 ohm and 60w at 4 ohm.

Do you think the class A E600 would be a good match with Sabrina， considering I listen to vocal and jazz most of the time, and small percentage of pop, and very very few classical music， at moderate lvl of 70 to 80 dB.

Thanks in advance

Cheers

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[Elberoth]

The E-600 should work very well for the kind of music you listen to. The amp is actually more powerfull than the specs sugest. I had no problems driving my Magico S5 with the E-550 and the E-600 is more potent.

[bobwah]

Hi fellow Sabrina owners,

I am a proud owner of the galaxy gray Sabrina since Dec 16. Currently using the modwright kwi200 (200w) int amp to push the Sabrina, and is considering to replace the amp with Accuphase E600 class A int amp, conservative power rating is 30w at 8 ohm and 60w at 4 ohm.

Do you think the class A E600 would be a good match with Sabrina， considering I listen to vocal and jazz most of the time, and small percentage of pop, and very very few classical music， at moderate lvl of 70 to 80 dB.

Thanks in advance

Cheers

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Maybe wait until you receive the speakers? Dec is still a few months away

[pingpong]

Maybe wait until you receive the speakers? Dec is still a few months away

Ops. Correction... I already had the Sabrina since Dec 2015

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[pingpong]

The E-600 should work very well for the kind of music you listen to. The amp is actually more powerfull than the specs sugest. I had no problems driving my Magico S5 with the E-550 and the E-600 is more potent.

Hi Elberoth,

Thank you for ur feedback. You ever for a moment wished for a more power amp to driver your wonderful S5?

Cheers

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[Dr Tone]

Speaker of the year:

http://www.stereophile.com/content/s...udspeaker-year

[Dr Tone]

Anyone put Stillpoints under their Sabrinas?

[FDPDK]

I visited a dealer yesterday , as i would have a listen to the Wilson Sabrina.
Had no idea what to expect at all, as my focus have been on Focal Sopra 2, the dealer who has the Focal although never have a good setup of these so my impressions are really mixed, from is it the streamer not up to the task, is it the room or the amplifier a bit annoying.
But decided to go and give the Sabrina a listen to put peace in my mind.....and oh my , what an experience such a small speaker with such a huge soundstage, really awesome 3 D perspective with the sound....i was amazed and now i have struggle on how on earth am i going to find that amount of money....
But oh my, where they good.

[Dr Tone]

But decided to go and give the Sabrina a listen to put peace in my mind.....and oh my , what an experience such a small speaker with such a huge soundstage, really awesome 3 D perspective with the sound....i was amazed and now i have struggle on how on earth am i going to find that amount of money....
But oh my, where they good.

Any financial advisor worth his weight in gold would advice a person against listening to Sabrinas when on a tighter budget.

[FDPDK]

Ohh, yeah you are so right
Somehow i need to figure this out , or hope for a very kind person selling them 2nd hand cheap, he he.
We will se, how that is going to go, by the way i also had the opportunity to listen to the Yvette and Sasha 2....also not bad at all

[hkval]

The most "musically enjoyable" speaker I have ever owned. Perhaps, it is how they love my Den 13x14x10h. My ears are approximately 8' from the grills. Recent changes I have made that have dramatically improved the sound are the PurePower 1500 power conditioner and the PS Audio Junior DAC.
The only negative is having to turn them off at day's end.

[joeinid]

Oh my God! Howard, I'm soooooo happy to see you again. I hope you are doing well. I really have missed you on the forum. Glad you are back my friend.

[Audio 1]

Oh my God! Howard, I'm soooooo happy to see you again. I hope you are doing well. I really have missed you on the forum. Glad you are back my friend.

Joe it really is great to have HK and his positive spirit back!!

[joeinid]

I'll drink to that!

Joe it really is great to have HK and his positive spirit back!!

[hkval]

I'll drink to that!

Joe: Come on down to Naples and you, Buddy and myself can have that drink together.

[joeinid]

I promised Mike a visit so I'll have to make the rounds sometime.

Joe: Come on down to Naples and you, Buddy and myself can have that drink together.

[sksouri1456]

Most of the time they live in a system using Moon Neo electronics. The amp is 125w at 8 ohm, 250w at 4 ohm and has no problem keep up. When I first received them I hooked them up to a pair of McIntosh MC-75's for a while. They sounded great, but I felt they were a little light on power. Other amps I have had hooked up include a Ayre VX-5 Twenty and a Parasound A21. Those both did a great Job. I have a few more amps I have been meaning to hook up to them and haven't got the chance yet. These include a Constellation Inspiration, ARC REF-150 and a Moon Evolution 860A. So far I haven't run into any troubles with the amps I have tried. Even the MC-75's could work depending on listening habits. They did sound REALLY good together.

Hi fellas,
I m the happy owner of piano black sabrina since last april, and i cant be more happy.
I had wharfedale diamond,ls50, sf venere 2,5 before sabrina and the jump of sq each time was huge,and this made me aware that, better make good investment in one component at a time rather than upgrade step by step.
What,i mean is invest in the best from the beginning,you will avoid loss of money and frustration .
And this is why am asking you here:
My sabrina is feeded now by devialet 200,200watt into 8ohm and 400 into 4ohm,sq is very good!
I heard the sabrinas with devialet220pro,devialet1000pro,dan d agostino nstream,.
The best sq was from dan d agostino wich is in the same league as devialet1000 pro. At the end of the track " i heard it thru the grape vines" interpreted by forcione ,he tap on the guitar with the hand,and thru the d'ag you feel the sound and you visualize the guitar ,and hear the wood frame of the guitar, i didn t hear the same from dev1000 pro ( the room acoustic and the set wasn t right though).
I think the sabrina like power, but quality power! Hooked to the d ag you can feel all their potential ,to the dev1000 as well ,but i felt i was missing smtg even though i was blown away by the power of the amp.
My wallet doesn't allow me to go the d ag route( my wife neither),but i was wondering wich of these amps will do it for me: arc ref 75 or se if the difference in sq is big ,(7000$ used );use it initially with my devialet200 as pre/dac/streamer then go for arc ref 6 pre and a good dac OR go for primaluna monos (7000$ new)with same route devialet as pre/dac/streamer then Go for primaluna pre and a good dac???
A friend told me arc is way better than primaluna but a reviewer compared primaluna , arc75, ayre vx20 with rowland ss pream for all,and prefered the primaluna.
Though,He stated that none of them convinced him they were the perfect match for sabrina .
Any thoughts are most welcome!
Thks



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[FDPDK]

Hi.

I will tell you my impression as from memory as i did audition the Sabrina with ARC Ref.6 and ARC Ref. 150 played with ARC CD9 , all cabling was NordOst as far as my memory goes it was an really impressive soundstage and tonality you got with that setup , then i also did hear Devialet with the Yvette and that was also a good combo , and here comes the difficult part because from my memory i did clearly prefer the ARC setup , which i also was lucky enough to hear paired with Sasha 2.

Not sure how much you can get from this. And hopefully someone with much better insight than what i have will give you a more clear answer.

Flemming

[sksouri1456]

Hi.

I will tell you my impression as from memory as i did audition the Sabrina with ARC Ref.6 and ARC Ref. 150 played with ARC CD9 , all cabling was NordOst as far as my memory goes it was an really impressive soundstage and tonality you got with that setup , then i also did hear Devialet with the Yvette and that was also a good combo , and here comes the difficult part because from my memory i did clearly prefer the ARC setup , which i also was lucky enough to hear paired with Sasha 2.

Not sure how much you can get from this. And hopefully someone with much better insight than what i have will give you a more clear answer.

Flemming

Hi thks for the reply.
It s very difficult when you can t audition an equipment to choose wich route you need to head on.
So confusing this hobby and funny at the same time.
The devialet sound very good indeed but can lack some emotion in acoustic and voice tracks, wich might be due to less midrange fat.
The combo of devialet is outstanding value actually, pre /amp/dac/streamer/roon endpoint.
No need for expensive ic , extra pc, etc.....
The arc gsi 75 is almost the same pack and good match for sabs but sooooo uglyyyyy.
I like the idea of all in one super integrated,and the diablo 300 is on my list as well!
I need to trust forumers who own sabrina to pull the trigger!


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[asiufy]

Well, we have a pair of Sabrinas in the store
They're mostly used with the Devialet Expert Pro 1000, to great results, as you can imagine! We alternate between that, a darTZee LHC-208 integrated, as well as the ARC GSi75. Different sounds, for sure!
In your case, I'd go REF 75SE (SE, not regular) if you don't want the GSi75.


cheers,
alex

[sksouri1456]

Hi,
Since i can use my dev200 as pre/dac/ streamer , i can go for arc75se initially, then as a second step go for pre ref 5se or ref6. + dac.
Do you think i ll hear the potential of the arc 75se with dev in the chain as pre?
Thks


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[asiufy]

Interesting question, as I've never used the Devialet as pre/DAC/streamer only... I don't know how much it its signature it'll impose on the sound... Now that's something that I'll play with!

But since it'll be temporary anyway, the 75SE is definitely a solid step towards that warmer sound that you want!


cheers,
alex

[sksouri1456]

Interesting question, as I've never used the Devialet as pre/DAC/streamer only... I don't know how much it its signature it'll impose on the sound... Now that's something that I'll play with!

But since it'll be temporary anyway, the 75SE is definitely a solid step towards that warmer sound that you want!


cheers,
alex

Just to complement the pre/dac/streamer fonction of the devialet, one owner replaced the very acclaimed ps audio dsd dac and a luxman pre with it and was happy of the results.



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[Dr Tone]

I have Sabrinas. I went from the D200 -> D220 Pro -> McIntosh driving them. The McIntosh amps reach lower and and are much fuller sounding, so much more enjoyable to listen to.

I don't think the Sabrinas need big power just the right power. You could always test the big McIntosh integrated if you want something a little more affordable in a single box.

http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Produ...oductId=MA9000

[sksouri1456]

[QUOTE=Dr Tone;226350]I have Sabrinas. I went from the D200 -> D220 Pro -> McIntosh driving them. The McIntosh amps reach lower and and are much fuller sounding, so much more enjoyable to listen to.

I don't think the Sabrinas need big power just the right power. You could always test the big McIntosh integrated if you want something a little more affordable in a single box.

Hi dr tone,
I m new to this forum with a new name,( not in purpose).
My devialet forum name is samsoum , and we exchanged some thoughts before, anyway i hope you are doing well.
Mackintosh style is definitely not my style even though i m sure they sound terrific.
I would love an all in one solution wich look descend and stylish like gryphon diablo300 but damm they are expensive.....
Let see..


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[sksouri1456]

Dr tone,
I agree that sab needs good power, but i also noticed they need some muscle .
Devialet is giving 200w to 8ohm and almost the double for 4 ohms and i thought this was more than enough till hearing dan d agostino nstream.
The later is really a hulk in terms of power( i forgot exactly the specs) , i felt the speakers handled much better, it was very obvious the grip the amp had on the speakers.
The sabs executed every bit or every single watt sended to them in perfect way.
Cheers



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[Dr Tone]

Mackintosh style is definitely not my style even though i m sure they sound terrific.
I would love an all in one solution wich look descend and stylish like gryphon diablo300 but damm they are expensive.....
Let see..

Are you going to look at it or listen to it?

I get more oohs and ahhs from the the blue meters and McIntosh label than I ever did from that very stylish Devialet.

[Mikado463]

I get more oohs and ahhs from the the blue meters and McIntosh label than I ever did from that very stylish Devialet.

I hope the 'oohs and ahh' are from the sound produced and not the light & label !

[Dr Tone]

I hope the 'oohs and ahh' are from the sound produced and not the light & label !

Why? The discussion I was having with sksouri1456 was about looks.

[GSOphile]

Dr tone,
I agree that sab needs good power, but i also noticed they need some muscle .
Devialet is giving 200w to 8ohm and almost the double for 4 ohms and i thought this was more than enough till hearing dan d agostino nstream.
The later is really a hulk in terms of power( i forgot exactly the specs) , i felt the speakers handled much better, it was very obvious the grip the amp had on the speakers.
The sabs executed every bit or every single watt sended to them in perfect way.
Cheers



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Unlike most I believe all Devialet amps are rated by the manufacturer ref 6 ohms only.

[sksouri1456]

Gsophile, correct 200watt to 6 ohm.
Dr tone, yes the design is important for me to certain extend. Mcintosh , no it s not for me.( my wife neither by the way)


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