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January 21, 2016, 09:08 PM #1
Bel Canto's new expensive integrated
http://www.monoandstereo.com/2016/01...ifier.html?m=1
$25k MSRP
Compare that to the MicroMega 1 at $4k MSRP
http://micromega.com/en/products/m1-range/
Hmmm....is Bel Canto trying to reposition themselves in the market with more expensive gear? Seems so.
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January 21, 2016, 09:16 PM #2
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January 21, 2016, 09:30 PM #3
Re: Bel Canto's new expensive integrated
Mike.......The MicroMega 1 with automatic room optimization, solid milled enclosure, and a reasonable price point certainly appears to be an attractive choice. I assume both use Class D amplification?
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January 21, 2016, 09:38 PM #4
Re: Bel Canto's new expensive integrated
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January 21, 2016, 10:25 PM #5
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Re: Bel Canto's new expensive integrated
Mike,
I feel Bel Canto is pricing itself out the market. As a company it just does not have the cachet to be pricing an integrated at $25K. Who knows -- maybe I am wrong and they will sell a bunch of them.
Anshul
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January 21, 2016, 10:39 PM #6
Re: Bel Canto's new expensive integrated
It's actually an attempt to bring down the cost of their very well reviewed $50K 3-chassis Bel Canto Black reference system into an integrated amp.
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January 22, 2016, 04:27 PM #7
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So this should compete with a $10k Devialet 200? I'll take the Devialet, thanks!
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January 22, 2016, 06:30 PM #8
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January 22, 2016, 06:32 PM #9
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I would take the Devialet 400 and still save $7000!
But the MicroMega 1 for $4000 would be the hard one to beat!My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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January 22, 2016, 08:54 PM #10
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January 22, 2016, 09:25 PM #11
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January 22, 2016, 11:26 PM #13
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December 12, 2016, 07:18 PM #14
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Re: Bel Canto's new expensive integrated
The new Bel Canto Black ASC-600 is of a completely different genre of product. Up to now Bel Canto has not actually demonstrated their wherewithal in terms of designing product not limited to a small chassis/footprint and price point.
The Black Systems amps each have a dac inside and with the Controller clock the signal TWICE. So, there is a reason for the existence of both the System AND the Integrated. If one would look closely at it and actually liste to it they would realize that it is not fair to compare it to other $10K products.
Had a long talk with head designer John and he really does know what he is doing. I am waiting to get mine as they now are available. I cannot wait.
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December 12, 2016, 11:44 PM #15
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Welcome to the forum ignat, thank you for joining.
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December 13, 2016, 04:47 AM #16
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Re: Bel Canto's new expensive integrated
One word...SIA-025
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June 21, 2019, 02:48 PM #17
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I picked up the black sys ASC2 last week and I really
enjoy it , not cheap but it does everything and the fiber optic
is a smart move saves $$$ on expensive interconnects
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June 28, 2019, 12:35 PM #18
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June 28, 2019, 01:49 PM #19
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The bel canto Black series is in a whole other league versus their half sized components. Customers that have purchased these from us are absolutely thrilled. A big dealer in the US has mentioned to my partner that he felt it was superior to a D'Agostino integrated amp. I use the Black EX integrated myself. Absolutely love it. The ACI 600 goes another step further.
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November 17, 2019, 11:58 AM #20
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Does anyone own the 3 chassis Black on this forum and how good is it ?
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November 17, 2019, 08:27 PM #21
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I own it , it’s very good . I have had a few higher end systems and prefer the black . I liked it so much I bought another for my summer home .
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November 10, 2020, 03:41 PM #22
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Bel Canto ACI600 or Gryphon Diablo 300+DAC option ?
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