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December 24, 2015, 12:04 AM #1
CES 2016 (Audio) Wish List
The kick off to CES 2016 is two weeks away today. As usual, all the big names in hi end audio will be at the Venetian.
I expect we will see some pretty big announcements.
What's are your CES 2016 wish list (audio)?
Mine are...
Revel Salon 3
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December 24, 2015, 02:03 AM #2
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Hmmm.... I don't have one ... Weird...
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December 24, 2015, 03:24 AM #3
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Hi Mike,
Your Item #1 would be cool but don't hold your breath. I've spoken to Revel several times in the last few months (I have a friend who is in the market for a pair of new Revels) and they said they are focused on bringing other new models to market. No Salon 3 or Studio 3 are in the works. So unless they are lying to me, you'll see no Salon 3 at CES 2016.
My friend and I did a head-to-head comparison of Revel's Studio 2 and F208 the other day at a local audio store. Both speakers were compared in an identical setup on an all Mark Levinson and MIT cabled system. We both preferred the F208 (a much newer model I might add) over the Studio 2 by a considerable margin. The F208 sounded more musical and had a smoother and more cohesive midrange and treble. The Studio 2 were a little more transparent and had a little tighter bass but their treble presentation was bright and their beryllium tweeter was not at all seamless with their midrange (even with the tweeter fully attenuated) compared to the F208's tweeter and midrange. I was really surprised by how great a speaker the F208's are and also by how far the Studio 2's performance was below the Salon 2's (not even in the ballpark).
Sorry to get off track from your original posting, Mike.
Happy Holidays,
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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December 24, 2015, 08:47 AM #4
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Wow Ken, I am surprised by your findings but admit that I've never heard them side by side.
I would have to believe Revel would be super quiet on the replacement speaker. They all keep it close to the vest so as not to kill sales of current gear. That's my belief.
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December 24, 2015, 08:56 AM #5
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My friend and I didn't say a word to each other while we were listening, so as to not bias each other. But after the comparison was finished we told each other that the Studio 2 was a definite no go, while we were impressed as heck with the F208. There was one song (Ella Fitzgerald - Solitude), which is one of my favorite auditioning songs for tonal purity. The F208 was nearly identical to the Salon 2 in sound quality on this particular song.
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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December 24, 2015, 10:02 AM #6
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Focal Sopra 3
Wilson Sophia 4Buddy
Boulder 1160 Amp, 1110 Pre-Amp
Audio Research Ref. 3 Phono-Pre
Vivid Audio Giya G2S2 Speakers
MSB Reference DAC
Innuos Statement w/Next. Gen. PS
B & W DB1D Subwoofer X2
Audioquest Niagara 5000 Power Conditioner
Kronos Pro Turntable w/Kronoscope RS tonearm + SCPS-1 PS + MSL Platinum Cart.
VPI HW-40 Turntable w/ Lyra Etna cartridge
Jay's Audio CDT3-MK3 CD Transport
Schiit Mjolnir 2 HPA + Audeze LCD X headphones
Adona Equipment Rack and Amp Stands
Furutech Outlets and Plates + NCF Booster
Shunyata Cables
Synergistic Research Galileo SX Ground Block, FEQ 4, Ethernet Switch UEF, Black Box + Room Acoustic treatments
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December 24, 2015, 11:50 AM #7
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December 24, 2015, 11:57 AM #8
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Ken - interesting comments. I heard the F208 against the Salon 2 and felt the Salon 2 was much better - especially that tweeter.
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December 24, 2015, 04:15 PM #9
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Hi Mike,
Overall the Salon 2 is significantly better than the F208. I was commenting on one particular song, which I've listened to a hundred times on the Salon 2, the F208 actually sounded very similar. On other material the Salon 2 is above and beyond the F208. However, in my opinion, the Studio 2 is a different story. My friend and I did a direct comparison of the Studio 2 and F208 on numerous songs of different genre and we both preferred the F208 on every song. I commented to the dealer that I thought something might be wrong with the Studio 2 but he insisted they were fine. It looks like my friend will be purchasing the F208.
Best,
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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December 24, 2015, 11:24 PM #10
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How about new Lumin gear? And, I would expect that Caelin should be announcing soon a "sigma" series interconnects and speaker cables. Also, maybe we'll learn some more about the Wilson Alexx and the DAG Mono 400s.
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December 24, 2015, 11:46 PM #11
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Re: CES 2016 (Audio) Wish List
A standalone Lumin network bridge (minus DAC) to compete with the Aurender N10.
Plus, in view of the warm reception to the M1, a higher end version with A1/S1 casing and linear power supply.
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December 25, 2015, 12:07 AM #12
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I would like to see McIntosh produce a new version of the MEN220, perhaps the MEN222. I want it to include state of the art A/D and D/A convertors, keep all the existing features of the MEN220 with the exception of the Bypass. I want a true analog Bypass, not just the Room Perfect Bypass as it is presently configured. I really like what Room Perfect does but the digital convertors need to be refreshed.
Come on McIntosh, it's time.Dan
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December 25, 2015, 12:53 AM #13
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NEW ARC Phono stage
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December 25, 2015, 01:22 AM #14
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Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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December 27, 2015, 07:03 AM #15
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Revel Salon 2 replacement, maybe they're going to call it something else because they keep denying it's in the works.
I simply don't believe them. I'm sure they've been doing a lot of R&D for a long time.Mark
Kharma DB9 Signature
Pass Labs XP32......incoming
Pass Labs X350.8
Esoteric N-05XD
VPI Avenger with Magnetic Drive
Manley Chinook Phono Pre
Ortofon Cadenza Black cartridge
Kharma Elegance speaker cables
Kharma Elegance interconnects
REL Subs
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December 27, 2015, 08:52 AM #16
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December 27, 2015, 04:41 PM #17
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McIntosh D1150 top shelf DAC
I also like Dan's MEN222 idea/specs
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December 27, 2015, 11:24 PM #19
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I'd like to see McIntosh be more innovative too and not just waiting for new OEM tech to come along for them to re-power and re-badge.
Speakeasy
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December 28, 2015, 11:49 PM #20
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I wish audio gear prices be lowered without compromising on quality...raw materials and components prices have dropped and hope this filters into the end product pricing.
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December 28, 2015, 11:57 PM #21
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Hi Mark,
I'm hoping they hold onto the Salon 2 for a little longer. Hard to improve on this tremendous design. I love the cabinet, the titanium drivers and their beryllium tweeter. Maybe a diamond coating on the beryllium dome and some upgraded crossover parts. I wouldn't want them to change much. I bet you're in heaven with them!
Best,
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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December 29, 2015, 04:01 AM #22
CES 2016 (Audio) Wish List
EMM Labs DAC2 replacement (very likely).
Magico S3 upgrade with the new tweeter, midrange and bass goodies (very unlikely).
Ayre 5 series DAC (very much like).
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December 29, 2015, 12:21 PM #23
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I wish Ayre would release a new mono amplifier at a lower price point than the MX-R Twenty. Something based on the VX-5 Twenty would be nice.
Rick
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December 29, 2015, 03:20 PM #24
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