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    Re: YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo View Post
    Adam, my experience is more with Haileys than with Carmels, but I noted that excess of leading edge in all rooms except in Paris where it was paired with a Luxman m900u where they were superbly musical. The other pairings were mainly with Burmesters and Boulder. I suspect some sort of cable/power/amp combo can eliminate it. Paris it was like Quads/stats with more bass and slam. Yes it can do with subs in bigger rooms so I suspect the Carmels will need them.
    Sure, but no amp will eliminate the bass shelving that seems to be the problem of this design. IMO they need to be used with subs, but even then - the cut off fq would need to be set very high, which could lead to bass integration problems. IMO it is just better to get the bigger model instead.
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    Re: YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Do you think think that the YGs are more sensitive to to the upstream than other speakers? Could a more neutral cable/amp and or combo could eliminate such leading edges you spoke of?
    If anything, more neutral amp than my msb monos (which are very much on the warm side of neutral), say Spectral, Soulution, Boulder, will highlight that edge even further.
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    Re: YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    Adam,

    Thanks for sharing. Perhaps I'll stick my with warm Pass amp as a good combination. To that end, to get some more resolution and lower distortion I'll think about upgrading my speaker cables/interconnects in the future. The new Shunyata stuff looks promising.

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    Re: YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Sure, but no amp will eliminate the bass shelving that seems to be the problem of this design. IMO they need to be used with subs, but even then - the cutout fq would need to be set very high, which could lead to bass integration problems. IMO it is just better to get the bigger model instead.
    I agree strongly they need subs

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    Re: YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo View Post
    I agree strongly they need subs
    + 2.

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    YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    My Carmel 2 arrived last week. On first listening, indeed it was bass-shy. And the mid and high sound boxed. Changing from focal Scala v2, difference is huge (but bass boom problem in my small living room).

    However after 1 week of running in, currently about 50 hours in, definitely there is improvement of low end extension. The mid starting to sound more natural.
    Is it low enough for me? I hope there is slightly more bass, but let it fully run in for 300-400 hours according to local dealer and will comment again. I haven’t changed the speakers feet yet. I think it will improve in the future.

    Just my humble opinion

    *my living room size is 3.5m x 6.8m

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    YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    Some pictures


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    Re: YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    Congrats on the new speakers and yes time is needed to get a better insight into their abilities.

    A good friend of mine owns the same speakers. He thought the sensitivity specification of the speakers was very optimistic and that they needed plenty of power to shine. I believe he is using Vitus which added a hint of warmth to an otherwise fairly lean sonic presentation.
    Borresen Acoustics Loudspeakers, Borresen Model 01 Compact monitor loudspeakers with Ansuz Darkz T2s Supreme resonance control, Audio Video Manufaktur GmbH (AVM) Inspiration amplifier & streamer, Innuos Zen MKII music server, Ansuz Acoustics cables & accessories. Please visit my system thread hosted on Audioshark for more details. Disclosure: The author is materially connected to Ansuz, Aavik & Borresen Acoustics via friendship with an owner.

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    Re: YG Acoustics Carmel 2

    I listened to RI-101 and Carmel 2 in dealer showroom. Quite a nice match

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