Burn-In CDs

[Cody@TARA]

Anybody here using using them with their systems?

(For those who don't know: the theory is that the disc signals demagnetize the circuits inside your components, resulting in a more coherent and extended high frequency reproduction without the glare.)

[Mike]

Yes. I have the Esoteric one (I would sure love a K-01x to go with it!).

It seemed to work well on my Oppo 105D.


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[just dave]

Anybody here using using them with their systems?

(For those who don't know: the theory is that the disc signals demagnetize the circuits inside your components, resulting in a more coherent and extended high frequency reproduction without the glare.)

How does that work? I've never heard of a cdp circuits becoming magnetized.

[Nick Danger]

Should work about as well as green felt marker on the edge of the disc!

[Mike]

Welcome to Audioshark Nick.

[Myles B. Astor]

Should work about as well as green felt marker on the edge of the disc!

Actually interestingly, we ran a double blind test of five popular CD tweaks now some 15 or 20 years ago headed by Jack English. Of the five tweaks, the green pen was the only tweak identified on a consistent basis by everyone participating in the test.

[CPP]

What possible effect can a demagnetiser have on something that isn't magnetic to begin with. We have a plastic disc with a silver coating neither of which is magnetic, read by a laser beam which itself is afaik immune to magnetic fields.

[Mechnutt]

What possible effect can a demagnetiser have on something that isn't magnetic to begin with. We have a plastic disc with a silver coating neither of which is magnetic, read by a laser beam which itself is afaik immune to magnetic fields.

What he said!

[Mike]

All this stuff is voodoo...but here's what is advertised for the Esoteric Burn In CD:

The Esoteric TEAC Iso-Tek System Conditioning disc was developed to reduce the time needed for system break-in or "burn-in". It is well known that audio systems require 400-500 hours to fully break-in and sound their very best.

All signals on this disc were produced according to strict mathematical criteria for system burn-in. The tracks also include a demagnetizing function for audio components, helping to 'rejuvenate' your entire system, post burn-in.

It is important to exercise the component and/or system across the full range of frequencies and amplitudes it may encounter in real life, and to this end the tones on this disc have been devised to cover the audio band from top to bottom, also ensuring that high amplitude signals are combined with high speed signals.

There is good reason for the various signals and tones on this disc bearing no relation, perceived or calculated, to music. At first sight, the problem of burning in a component and/or system may seem to call for some kind of signal that resembles music in certain specifics but somehow ‘works faster’ in exercising and/or settling down the various components within the system. But while such a signal can be generated, it doesn’t burn equipment in very fast and doesn’t address the rejuvenation function either. The required signal features high-speed activity coupled with high-amplitude excursions. All of these signals have been produced according to strict mathematical criteria so as to place the greatest stress on the important parts of a component or system - WITHOUT, it is important to note, endangering any part of it. If this disc is played at normal listening levels (volume control set as for your favorite listening material), there is NOTHING in it that will damage any normal music system. Raising the volume level higher will NOT improve the disc’s performance. If you play our disc at extremely high volume levels we will not be held responsible for damage that may occur.

The Esoteric TEAC Iso-Tek burn in/break in disc features three tracks. 0.1 (30 minutes) and 0.2 (30 minutes) are similar, with the second being optimized for systems with large loudspeakers and/or subwoofer(s). In general, use 0.1 for most stand-mounted speakers, 0.2 for floor-standing models, except perhaps the slimmest.

The differences are neither profound nor dangerous, but the benefits of 0.2, in the right situations, we have found to be audible. The last few minutes of each track are intended specifically for system demagnetizing and we DO advise that playback of each track should be performed in full.

Track 0.3 (5 minutes) has been specifically developed as a quick ‘spruce-up’ for the hi-fi, consisting of a little of the ‘hi-fi aerobics’ from the start or Tracks 0.1 and 0.2 followed by a slightly less comprehensive demagnetization regime which, however, should be quite adequate to redress any ill effects accruing over a day or two’s use or disuse.

This is a great disk for breaking in high-end components, cables, speakers....whatever is connected to your CD player. For those using a computer for Hi-Rez music files, rip to your hard drive and break-in your Fire-wire/USB cable (plus) all cables hooked to your DAC!

Features:
• Fully burns in a complete audio or home theater component system
• Burns in a digital recorder, data storage recording device, loudspeakers, wire and cable
• Fully demagnetizes
• Rejuvenation track which can be used as a daily warm up or weekly cleanse
• Suitable for all systems
• Includes 65 minutes of burn-in, full system demagnetization and rejuvenation tracks.

Selections:
Track 1:
Full system burn-in and demagnetization for electronics, interconnects and cables.

Track 2:
Full system burn-in and conditioning with additional low level tones affecting electronics, interconnects, cables, sub-woofers and loudspeakers.

Track 3:
Full system enhancement and rejuvenation (Post burn-in), including demagnetization tones effecting electronics, interconnects, cables, sub-woofers and loudspeakers.

[the professor]

Cardas has an app for this. Its called the Clarifier.

[MDP]

Cardas has an app for this. Its called the Clarifier.

Did you ever try it Jock ?

[mauidan]

Track 7 on the Ayre "Irrational, But Efficacious" System Enhancement Disc works great.

[CPP]

If anyone wants to purchase a real system burn in disk, I happen to have a 20 year old tape that we made at my daughters 3rd month cello practice. It will;

(1) change the way you look at your system ( or maybe your daughters playing)
(2) bring you closer to the music ( or find her another music instrument to play)
(3) burn in your speakers with rich harmonics at the likes you have never heard ( or require you to have your hearing checked after witnessing a different rendition of Bach Cello Suite No.1 in G (full))
(4) require you to set through 19 beautiful minutes while you build memories ( or you can walk out back and commit hari-kari)
(5) and best of all, it will work on any system and any human. ( PS: playing this disk in the vicinity of your dog could be harmful to his/her health)

[Myles B. Astor]

Then there's also the Purist Audio disc. And the older XLO.

[bzr]

I have the xlo somewhere

[BlueFox]

Track 7 on the Ayre "Irrational, But Efficacious" System Enhancement Disc works great.

I have that CD. I need to rip it to the music server since I rarely turn the CD player on anymore.

[CPP]

I have the xlo somewhere

I've got that one as well.

[BlueFox]

Track 7 on the Ayre "Irrational, But Efficacious" System Enhancement Disc works great.

I ripped that today, and recharged the system with it. I also ripped three Marilyn Manson CDs so they get a system ready to rock. I listened to string quartets all day since I worked from home. Now for a different type of strings.

[just dave]

Anybody here using using them with their systems?

(For those who don't know: the theory is that the disc signals demagnetize the circuits inside your components, resulting in a more coherent and extended high frequency reproduction without the glare.)

Still waitin to here how this works.Why won't regular signals do the same thing? How are these different?

[Mike]

Still waitin to here how this works.Why won't regular signals do the same thing? How are these different?

They will, but what I hear is a full spectrum sweep.

[CPP]

They will, but what I hear is a full spectrum sweep.

Yep, for free just download this and have it repeat for a few days.

[BeerCan]

I am having a hard time with this. What exactly is it demagnetizing? How does it accomplish this with an audio signal?

[just dave]

I am having a hard time with this. What exactly is it demagnetizing? How does it accomplish this with an audio signal?

They're just electrons moving through a wire,right. And burn in doesn't have anything to do with demagnetizing.

[Alpinist]

All this stuff is voodoo...but here's what is advertised for the Esoteric Burn In CD:

The Esoteric TEAC Iso-Tek System Conditioning disc was developed to reduce the time needed for system break-in or "burn-in". It is well known that audio systems require 400-500 hours to fully break-in and sound their very best.

All signals on this disc were produced according to strict mathematical criteria for system burn-in. The tracks also include a demagnetizing function for audio components, helping to 'rejuvenate' your entire system, post burn-in.

It is important to exercise the component and/or system across the full range of frequencies and amplitudes it may encounter in real life, and to this end the tones on this disc have been devised to cover the audio band from top to bottom, also ensuring that high amplitude signals are combined with high speed signals.

There is good reason for the various signals and tones on this disc bearing no relation, perceived or calculated, to music. At first sight, the problem of burning in a component and/or system may seem to call for some kind of signal that resembles music in certain specifics but somehow ‘works faster’ in exercising and/or settling down the various components within the system. But while such a signal can be generated, it doesn’t burn equipment in very fast and doesn’t address the rejuvenation function either. The required signal features high-speed activity coupled with high-amplitude excursions. All of these signals have been produced according to strict mathematical criteria so as to place the greatest stress on the important parts of a component or system - WITHOUT, it is important to note, endangering any part of it. If this disc is played at normal listening levels (volume control set as for your favorite listening material), there is NOTHING in it that will damage any normal music system. Raising the volume level higher will NOT improve the disc’s performance. If you play our disc at extremely high volume levels we will not be held responsible for damage that may occur.

The Esoteric TEAC Iso-Tek burn in/break in disc features three tracks. 0.1 (30 minutes) and 0.2 (30 minutes) are similar, with the second being optimized for systems with large loudspeakers and/or subwoofer(s). In general, use 0.1 for most stand-mounted speakers, 0.2 for floor-standing models, except perhaps the slimmest.

The differences are neither profound nor dangerous, but the benefits of 0.2, in the right situations, we have found to be audible. The last few minutes of each track are intended specifically for system demagnetizing and we DO advise that playback of each track should be performed in full.

Track 0.3 (5 minutes) has been specifically developed as a quick ‘spruce-up’ for the hi-fi, consisting of a little of the ‘hi-fi aerobics’ from the start or Tracks 0.1 and 0.2 followed by a slightly less comprehensive demagnetization regime which, however, should be quite adequate to redress any ill effects accruing over a day or two’s use or disuse.

This is a great disk for breaking in high-end components, cables, speakers....whatever is connected to your CD player. For those using a computer for Hi-Rez music files, rip to your hard drive and break-in your Fire-wire/USB cable (plus) all cables hooked to your DAC!

Features:
• Fully burns in a complete audio or home theater component system
• Burns in a digital recorder, data storage recording device, loudspeakers, wire and cable
• Fully demagnetizes
• Rejuvenation track which can be used as a daily warm up or weekly cleanse
• Suitable for all systems
• Includes 65 minutes of burn-in, full system demagnetization and rejuvenation tracks.

Selections:
Track 1:
Full system burn-in and demagnetization for electronics, interconnects and cables.

Track 2:
Full system burn-in and conditioning with additional low level tones affecting electronics, interconnects, cables, sub-woofers and loudspeakers.

Track 3:
Full system enhancement and rejuvenation (Post burn-in), including demagnetization tones effecting electronics, interconnects, cables, sub-woofers and loudspeakers.

I have a few of these break-in CDs and the Esoteric is by far my favorite. This one would be my choice to speed up the break-in of a new component. The difference after using it a few times was clearly audible with no negative sonic effects that a few of the CDs can cause if overused.

Ken

[Justlisten2]

Track 7 on the Ayre "Irrational, But Efficacious" System Enhancement Disc works great.

+1, I agree 100%. I use it to burn in all sorts of gear and cables too.

[just dave]

So how do cables get magnetized? Copper is non-magnetic and so is plastic and rubber.And how do these signals demagnetize the cables?

[Justlisten2]

So how do cables get magnetized? Copper is non-magnetic and so is plastic and rubber.And how do these signals demagnetize the cables?

Not all cables use copper. I am using High Fidelity Cables.

[just dave]

Not all cables use copper. I am using High Fidelity Cables.

Ok silver is non-magnetic and so is aluminum.What are your cables made of?

[Justlisten2]

Ok silver is non-magnetic and so is aluminum.What are your cables made of?

To be totally honest, I don't know. Mu metal maybe? I do know that the cables use magnets.
Here is a link: High Fidelity Cables

Also, I don't just use track 7, I put the whole disc on repeat for 24 hours.
So I don't know if it is the white noise, demag, or whatever, but it's title is accurate, "Irrational, But Efficacious".

[just dave]

So de-magging cables is a bad thing,especially in your case.

[BlueFox]

Track 7 on the Ayre "Irrational, But Efficacious" System Enhancement Disc works great.

Ripped this last week. Now playing the whole disk before going to bed. I think I will finish off every session with it.

[Bodhi]

I have previously used the Isotek Full System Enhancer cd which i've found works well at accelerating burn in time. And i'm sure the refresher track (track 3) helps smooth the sound when used after a cold start up. Incidentally I read there is a Mk2 version out now, though I didn't see it on the website

I recently downloaded the free Tara Labs Cascade burn in cd however which i've been told is as good as any out there. I haven't tried it out, but plan on using that cd to help burn in all my new gear once the Vitus arrives. I'd be interested to get feedback from anyone who has used it. Did it work well? And roughly by what percentage did it cut normal run in time?

[Justlisten2]

So de-magging cables is a bad thing,especially in your case.

Yeah, whatever.

[mauidan]

Forgot to mention I've got an extra new unplayed copy of the Ayre "Irrational, But Efficacious" System Enhancement Disc.

If anyone is interested PM me, it's yours for $10. shipped (USA).

[Andik777]

Forgot to mention I've got an extra new unplayed copy of the Ayre "Irrational, But Efficacious" System Enhancement Disc.

If anyone is interested PM me, it's yours for $10. shipped (USA).

Hello, I am interested, I am from Argentina and I do not have a compact, does it work for me? I just need this CD (or the copied songs) to improve my new speakers. Can you copy the tracks and send them by email? Thanks.

[Andik777]

Forero friends, any of you if you can send me the tracks by email, I would appreciate it. I can only pay by credit card. Thanks

[BlueFox]

It might be easier to find the CD. This is an old thread, and might not be as useful now. I think I had that CD but I don’t remember it doing anything useful.

[Andik777]

It might be easier to find the CD. This is an old thread, and might not be as useful now. I think I had that CD but I don’t remember it doing anything useful.

Thank you

[Shadowfax]

Someone just gave me a copy of the IsoTek original enhancement disk which is halfway thru playing now. I am also downloading the Tara Labs disk right now. It will be interesting to see if I can hear any real changes.

[Shadowfax]

So far after playing a few familiar tracks, I do think the bass has gotten a little deeper and more controlled. Could just be the low pressure from the end of Ian still here. I will keep spinning familiar disks to see what I think. Also about to burn the Tara tracks to disk for another run thru.

[MichaelsMinute]

I used to do special CD's and such. Now I just play the TV through ti during the day and music at night while asleep.