What Ticks You Off The Most About Online Audio Forums

[o0OBillO0o]

When speaking of low frequencies...using base, not bass.

That. Right there.

[RichardAusten]

The over moderation of freedom of speech or modding to an agenda. Sure amps etc sound different, but I want to be able to hear from the people who say otherwise.

Oh and people who disagree with me about what sounds correct - what's wrong with your EAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRSSSS?

[Shadowfax]

I agree. I think we need more genres of music. Maybe we could mix country music with rap and we could call it CRAP.

That's really funny because during one of the New Years shows, they had some performers on called Florida-Georgia Line, and they were exactly that.

White boys trying to rap is funny in itself, but White Country singers trying to rap is hilariously funny and really bad in my opinion. They should stick to yodeling and whining about their dog or dead pickup truck.

[Myles B. Astor]

The over moderation of freedom of speech or modding to an agenda. Sure amps etc sound different, but I want to be able to hear from the people who say otherwise.

Oh and people who disagree with me about what sounds correct - what's wrong with your EAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRSSSS?

And I don't need nor want to hear their s**t. There are places where they can spew their stupidity; the same buffoons (save when they die like Tom Nuisance) have been saying, repeating and regurgitating the same dreck over and over and over again like Moonies on sites such as wreck.high-end.audio.opinion and newer clones of that like Hydrogen Audio. This has been going on for three decades now. How's that been working out for you?

Just stay TFA and don't pollute the high end audio web sites. Life is too short to deal with their stupidity.

And you know what they say about voices. If you write for a magazine, your voice is the magazine's voice. You want your own voice? Write a book. Same goes for web sites. You want your own voice? Start your own.

[Shadowfax]

Great, a perfectly good discussion turns into an episode of The Grammar Nazis

My bad punctuation or no capitalization stems from time constraints. I usually read and respond while working so I try to get my thoughts and responses out quickly.

This all reminds me of something my wife and I went through years ago when we discussed all kinds of relationship possibilities to keep things exciting. Somehow we were put in contact with a local Poly-amorous group out of Philly and met with a few for dinner and talking about what they were all about. One very interesting group of people who wrote up contracts and provided testing papers for any extended relationships they were involved in. They were a very intelligent group of people and not just anyone could do what they do and keep relationships together. They had a message board and anytime anyone posted something with bad grammer or punctuation, they were highly chastized and pretty much run off the board.

Sometimes it's overkill when people are just trying to communicate. We never did anything with what we learned, but it sure was an interesting and eye opening experience. It did sour me on how anal people with just a tad more smarts than average can treat others just because they never make a spelling or grammar mistake. They expected every post, from a single line to a page to be proof read and spell checked before hitting the reply button. I would say "Get a Life" but they already had pretty interesting and complicated lives.

[mep]

Great, a perfectly good discussion turns into an episode of The Grammar Nazis

My bad punctuation or no capitalization stems from time constraints. I usually read and respond while working so I try to get my thoughts and responses out quickly.

This all reminds me of something my wife and I went through years ago when we discussed all kinds of relationship possibilities to keep things exciting. Somehow we were put in contact with a local Poly-amorous group out of Philly and met with a few for dinner and talking about what they were all about. One very interesting group of people who wrote up contracts and provided testing papers for any extended relationships they were involved in. They were a very intelligent group of people and not just anyone could do what they do and keep relationships together. They had a message board and anytime anyone posted something with bad grammer or punctuation, they were highly chastized and pretty much run off the board.

Sometimes it's overkill when people are just trying to communicate. We never did anything with what we learned, but it sure was an interesting and eye opening experience. It did sour me on how anal people with just a tad more smarts than average can treat others just because they never make a spelling or grammar mistake. They expected every post, from a single line to a page to be proof read and spell checked before hitting the reply button. I would say "Get a Life" but they already had pretty interesting and complicated lives.

Brian-Since your Polyamory group was busy having sex with people outside of their marriage and writing up contracts to help others do the same, it seems like they would be too busy to care about grammar and spelling.

[Shadowfax]

Brian-Since your Polyamory group was busy having sex with people outside of their marriage and writing up contracts to help others do the same, it seems like they would be too busy to care about grammar and spelling.

You have no idea. They made this group look like kindergartners. Oh, and many were not married but somehow had what it takes to make multiple relationships work at the same time. Not for me, one is more than enough

[jaxwired]

I'm majorly late to this party, but here's my list:

1. Digital bashers / vinyl zealots.
2. Overly sensitive members that are too easily offended and want extreme politeness to the point of stifling any spirited discussion.
3. Forum owner sycophants. (No offense Mike). : )
4. Thead police. These people want to complain the second any post is off topic like it's the end of the world. Who cares? Who made the rule that no thread can ever diverge off topic?
5. People who want to point out that the topic has already been covered so the OP should just read archived threads. Like that's the same as a fresh discussion, not.
6. Lurkers who never post (you know who you are). Contribute already!
7. What are you listening to threads. I know im in the minority on this one, but I feel these threads are posted to frequently, but rarely read by anyone.

[Shadowfax]

I'm majorly late to this party, but here's my list:

1. Digital bashers / vinyl zealots.
2. Overly sensitive members that are too easily offended and want extreme politeness to the point of stifling any spirited discussion.
3. Forum owner sycophants. (No offense Mike). : )
4. Thead police. These people want to complain the second any post is off topic like it's the end of the world. Who cares? Who made the rule that no thread can ever diverge off topic?
5. People who want to point out that the topic has already been covered so the OP should just read archived threads. Like that's the same as a fresh discussion, not.
6. Lurkers who never post (you know who you are). Contribute already!
7. What are you listening to threads. I know im in the minority on this one, but I feel these threads are posted to frequently, but rarely read by anyone.

Good list Jax!

I was surprised by the What do you do thread when I saw some 70 reads for about 4 replies. I thought that to be a great thread since we get to see where people are coming from and what they enjoy in life other than audio. Still needs many more replies from the rest of the Lurkers.


You may want to go back and spell check, some folks won't understand what you said if there are 2 or 3 mis-spelled words

[kev313]

I'm majorly late to this party, but here's my list:

1. Digital bashers / vinyl zealots.
2. Overly sensitive members that are too easily offended and want extreme politeness to the point of stifling any spirited discussion.
3. Forum owner sycophants. (No offense Mike). : )
4. Thead police. These people want to complain the second any post is off topic like it's the end of the world. Who cares? Who made the rule that no thread can ever diverge off topic?
5. People who want to point out that the topic has already been covered so the OP should just read archived threads. Like that's the same as a fresh discussion, not.
6. Lurkers who never post (you know who you are). Contribute already!
7. What are you listening to threads. I know im in the minority on this one, but I feel these threads are posted to frequently, but rarely read by anyone.

Good list!


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[CDLehner]

I'm majorly late to this party, but here's my list:

1. Digital bashers / vinyl zealots.
2. Overly sensitive members that are too easily offended and want extreme politeness to the point of stifling any spirited discussion.
3. Forum owner sycophants. (No offense Mike). : )
4. Thead police. These people want to complain the second any post is off topic like it's the end of the world. Who cares? Who made the rule that no thread can ever diverge off topic?
5. People who want to point out that the topic has already been covered so the OP should just read archived threads. Like that's the same as a fresh discussion, not.
6. Lurkers who never post (you know who you are). Contribute already!
7. What are you listening to threads. I know im in the minority on this one, but I feel these threads are posted to frequently, but rarely read by anyone.

6 for 7 ain't bad

[mep]

6 for 7 ain't bad

Yeah. He left out analog bashers/digital zealots.

[o0OBillO0o]

I'm majorly late to this party, but here's my list:

7. What are you listening to threads. I know im in the minority on this one, but I feel these threads are posted to frequently, but rarely read by anyone.

Sign up for last.fm and post your profile link in your signature block.. o0obillo0o?s Music Profile ? Users at Last.fm

[Garth]

I'm majorly late to this party, but here's my list:

1. Digital bashers / vinyl zealots.
2. Overly sensitive members that are too easily offended and want extreme politeness to the point of stifling any spirited discussion.
3. Forum owner sycophants. (No offense Mike). : )
4. Thead police. These people want to complain the second any post is off topic like it's the end of the world. Who cares? Who made the rule that no thread can ever diverge off topic?
5. People who want to point out that the topic has already been covered so the OP should just read archived threads. Like that's the same as a fresh discussion, not.
6. Lurkers who never post (you know who you are). Contribute already!
7. What are you listening to threads. I know im in the minority on this one, but I feel these threads are posted to frequently, but rarely read by anyone.

1. If it goes both ways I agree
2. Hard to rate when it went from spirited to rude but I agree
3. The owner sets the tone alright
4. Thread hijacking is always going to happen sometimes it is good others not.
5. I agree
6. I agree any spelling will do for me.
7. Good point I had not looked at it that way.

The threads ebb and flow some come back some dry up. New people join, it is to bad about people who leave. Of the forms out there this is a good one IMO

Thanks for posting jaxwired you said it better than I did

[puroagave]

- a certain amount of anonymity is expected but at least state what continent you're on if not your home town or locale.
- back to the '"credentials" thread, some idea of whats in your system even in the most general terms.
- what music shows off your system or is in constant rotation when evaluating gear? the AS super disc list sunk to page 5 on the music forum, it should have a sticky and it'd be nice if everyone contributed something, regardless of format or genre.

[CDLehner]

Sorry; I've held my tongue for some time, but I think I need to finally speak my mind about this.

Can we please...stop whining, about asking that those posting; maintain some semblance, of proper diction and grammar!

Like most things...and this is yet another peeve I suppose; people have to take things to an extreme. First...I don't think anyone said "don't post". But second...there is a HUGE difference; between the occasional typo or slip...and someone who never caps, uses punctuation. Runs-on all their sentences...or constantly confuses to/too and/or your/you're.

Some are saying "this isn't an English Lit forum"; first of all, I don't think there is such a thing. But honestly...would you send a letter, work memo; birthday card...without putting any thought, into whether it was intelligible or not?

We all make slips; and I think you can usually tell who is using English as a second language...and those are excused, because I sure as hell can't write in their native tongue. But man...it's easy: read what you've written before you post. If it's gibberish...just tighten it up a bit, and then hit spell-check!

[o0OBillO0o]

I'd be nice if you(yes you!) whine, you post a solution.

[CDLehner]

I'd be nice if you(yes you!) whine, you post a solution.

See; I don't know what this means??

[o0OBillO0o]

CD, an example format would be the issue, discussion, recommendation format.

Issue: What Ticks You Off The Most About Online Audio Forums

Discussion: There are many was to communicate a complaint. Still, there are no standards or agreed upon methods.

Recommendation: I recommend that we make suggestions to the forum moderator to update the forum guidelines and rules regarding "What Ticks You Off The Most About Online Audio Forums"

CD, PM me and we can exchange Skype names or talk over phone if you are not sure what I am saying, it might be easier that way to understand each other.

[CDLehner]

CD, an example format would be the issue, discussion, recommendation format.

Issue: What Ticks You Off The Most About Online Audio Forums

Discussion: There are many was to communicate a complaint. Still, there are no standards or agreed upon methods.

Recommendation: I recommend that we make suggestions to the forum moderator to update the forum guidelines and rules regarding "What Ticks You Off The Most About Online Audio Forums"

CD, PM me and we can exchange Skype names or talk over phone if you are not sure what I am saying, it might be easier that way to understand each other.

I was just asking you to translate this...

I'd be nice if you(yes you!) whine, you post a solution.

I think you left out a few words; or got your contraction wrong, or something.

[jaxwired]

See; I don't know what this means??

He means complaints posted should be paired with suggested solutions to the complaint.

[o0OBillO0o]

I was just asking you to translate this...




I think you left out a few words; or got your contraction wrong, or something.

Help me out then, I can't say it any other way at the moment. :-)

[jaxwired]

Sorry; I've held my tongue for some time, but I think I need to finally speak my mind about this.

Can we please...stop whining, about asking that those posting; maintain some semblance, of proper diction and grammar!

Like most things...and this is yet another peeve I suppose; people have to take things to an extreme. First...I don't think anyone said "don't post". But second...there is a HUGE difference; between the occasional typo or slip...and someone who never caps, uses punctuation. Runs-on all their sentences...or constantly confuses to/too and/or your/you're.

Some are saying "this isn't an English Lit forum"; first of all, I don't think there is such a thing. But honestly...would you send a letter, work memo; birthday card...without putting any thought, into whether it was intelligible or not?

We all make slips; and I think you can usually tell who is using English as a second language...and those are excused, because I sure as hell can't write in their native tongue. But man...it's easy: read what you've written before you post. If it's gibberish...just tighten it up a bit, and then hit spell-check!

Gotta say I am sometimes guilty of this. For me it stems from how difficult I find posting via my iPad. I do try and read my posts and correct them. I'm sure I don't catch everything though. My emails are even worse. People who get them must think I'm impaired. Lol.

[CDLehner]

He means complaints posted should be paired with suggested solutions to the complaint.

Well...I think you're right Jax; but seriously...

I'd be nice if you(yes you!) whine, you post a solution.

That should be read more like: it would be nice, if when you whine (yes you); that you post a solution.

And I did offer a solution; a very succinct one.

But man...it's easy: read what you've written before you post. If it's gibberish...just tighten it up a bit, and then hit spell-check!

[CDLehner]

Gotta say I am sometimes guilty of this. For me it stems from how difficult I find posting via my iPad. I do try and read my posts and correct them. I'm sure I don't catch everything though. My emails are even worse. People who get them must think I'm impaired. Lol.

But see Jax...there's the difference. Sure, you...like us all...make the occasional mistake. But I, for one...can usually tell when it's an auto-correct, or typo, or slip.

Some...just type gibberish, and don't care.

[Mikado463]

You may want to go back and spell check, some folks won't understand what you said if there are 2 or 3 mis-spelled words

LOL Brian …………. are you upset that the Eagles stumbled and didn't make the playoffs again ??

[Shadowfax]

LOL Brian …………. are you upset that the Eagles stumbled and didn't make the playoffs again ??

I don't really care one way or the other. I watch games on TV if I am not busy, but don't set my schedule to sports nor will I ever buy a ticket to help pay their salaries.

I just thought it was an appropriate, joking, comment since the Spelling Police have invaded this thread.

[MDP]

This thread is starting to get a little snarky.

Can't we all just treat each other the way we want to be treated.

My God, we're not curing cancer here, we're supposed to be having fun.

[Mikado463]

Sorry; I've held my tongue for some time, but I think I need to finally speak my mind about this.

Can we please...stop whining, about asking that those posting; maintain some semblance, of proper diction and grammar!

Like most things...and this is yet another peeve I suppose; people have to take things to an extreme. First...I don't think anyone said "don't post". But second...there is a HUGE difference; between the occasional typo or slip...and someone who never caps, uses punctuation. Runs-on all their sentences...or constantly confuses to/too and/or your/you're.

Some are saying "this isn't an English Lit forum"; first of all, I don't think there is such a thing. But honestly...would you send a letter, work memo; birthday card...without putting any thought, into whether it was intelligible or not?

We all make slips; and I think you can usually tell who is using English as a second language...and those are excused, because I sure as hell can't write in their native tongue. But man...it's easy: read what you've written before you post. If it's gibberish...just tighten it up a bit, and then hit spell-check!

Well said !! ……………

This thread is starting to get a little snarky.

Can't we all just treat each other the way we want to be treated.

My God, we're not curing cancer here, we're supposed to be having fun.

Spirited discussion …………… healthy IMO …..

[MDP]

It's not healthy when people start getting pissy with each other

[Garth]

High standards are a good thing but we are taking a good thing too far.

Some want a common every day poster to have an original question written in good english no spelling mistakes. Then to offer solutions to the question they just asked. While being called whiners, lazy and stupid . I really have no trouble seeing why there are so many lurkers and so few posters.
Not everyone or is anyone going search the whole site to see if a question has already been asked. I have traveled in communist countries that were less restrictive .
I think the more ideas questions that get posted the better. Just maybe some of you are jaded is all. As always IMO

[Glareskin]

Sharks without sense of humor:

[BlueFox]

One thing I like about this forum is the ability to always edit your post. I don't know how many times I have posted something, then reread it later, only to realize I need a comma here and there, or some other tweak. Of course, by then nobody is reading the post, but at least I feel better.

[FlexibleAudio]

Sorry; I've held my tongue for some time, but I think I need to finally speak my mind about this.

Can we please...stop whining, about asking that those posting; maintain some semblance, of proper diction and grammar!

Like most things...and this is yet another peeve I suppose; people have to take things to an extreme.

First...I don't think anyone said "don't post". But second...there is a HUGE difference; between the occasional typo or slip...and someone who never caps, uses punctuation. Runs-on all their sentences...or constantly confuses to/too and/or your/you're.

Some are saying "this isn't an English Lit forum"; first of all, I don't think there is such a thing. But honestly...would you send a letter, work memo; birthday card...without putting any thought, into whether it was intelligible or not?

We all make slips; and I think you can usually tell who is using English as a second language...and those are excused, because I sure as hell can't write in their native tongue. But man...it's easy: read what you've written before you post. If it's gibberish...just tighten it up a bit, and then hit spell-check!

Dude when I first started reading your post and got through the part I highlighted above, I thought you were going in the exact opposite direction with your opinion. I mistakenly thought you were bringing a sense of rationality to this mess; then I read the rest. I just don't get you guys at all on this point, but thats what makes forum discussions entertaining. I very, very rarely do not understand what a poster is saying (no matter how they write) and on those rare ocasions, if I care about the post, I just ask for clarification.

Do people seriously think writing skills and intelligence have a modicum of correlation? I know a lot of brainiacs in engineering, medicine, and science that consider proper use of the english language a silly nuisance. The world is changing in this regard with each generation and the resistance seams illogical imo.

Mark: no snarkiness intended; just keeping it real.

[Mikado463]

Dude, Do people seriously thinks writing skills and intelligence have a modicum of correlation?

but of course, who of sound mind wouldn't ???????

I know a lot of brainiacs in engineering, medicine, and science that consider proper use of the english language a silly nuisance.

as do I (know people of said profession) and they feel concerned. Let's face it, you're of a younger generation (lucky bugger, hold on to your youth for as long as you can) so your views will be different than mine, regardless I stand by my first post…………… a disregard for basic grammar is laziness , pure and simple !

The world is changing in this regard with each generation and the resistance seams illogical imo.

true, but I refuse to give into the 'nannies & nerds' !

Mark: no snarkiness intended; just keeping it real.

'Ditto' …………….. keep the faith !!

[mep]

Dude when I first started reading your post and got through the part I highlighted above, I thought you were going in the exact opposite direction with your opinion. I mistakenly thought you were bringing a sense of rationality to this mess; then I read the rest. I just don't get you guys at all on this point, but thats what makes forum discussions entertaining. I very, very rarely do not understand what a poster is saying (no matter how they write) and on those rare ocasions, if I care about the post, I just ask for clarification.

Do people seriously thinks writing skills and intelligence have a modicum of correlation? I know a lot of brainiacs in engineering, medicine, and science that consider proper use of the english language a silly nuisance. The world is changing in this regard with each generation and the resistance seams illogical imo.

Mark: no snarkiness intended; just keeping it real.

(Mark no

Hmm. Where have I seen those words before?

[Zero]

The only thing that routinely turns me off about audio forums are the audiophiles who frequent them.

[FlexibleAudio]

i grew up with a dyslexic parent, i'm moderately dyslexic myself beside the fact english is my third language. i feel no need to apologize for less than perfect grammar, syntax, caps or whatever, only my paying clients count when it comes to those details. speaking of which, i have clients w/ 7-figure incomes that don't know "you're" is a contraction of "you" and "are" and only use the possessive "your." i feel superior if only for a split second to know they have failings like the rest of us. so if it makes you smug to dis those that care less, then good for you

+1

[FlexibleAudio]

but of course, who of sound mind wouldn't ???????

Well to start with, how about just about everyone in this conversation.

as do I (know people of said profession) and they feel concerned. Let's face it, you're of a younger generation (lucky bugger, hold on to your youth for as long as you can) so your views will be different than mine, regardless I stand by my first post…………… a disregard for basic grammar is laziness , pure and simple !

I am not sure of your age; I am 54 and in no way consider my view to be age based.

I am always amused by people who use a pseudo-intellectual club as a weapon to make up for some insecurity.

When you have no first hand knowledge about another person's intellect or work ethic and you call them lazy you really make yourself look foolish. What's the point? Don't you have a dog to kick?

true, but I refuse to give into the 'nannies & nerds' !

I am really confused. Isn't that the role you're playing now?

'Ditto' …………….. keep the faith !!

Back at you.

Ok Mark, now we are getting snarky....but just a little.

[Garth]

The points have all been made, is it not time to just drop the whole thing. Just asking.

[BlueFox]

The points have all been made, is it not time to just drop the whole thing. Just asking.

I agree, but would be remiss if I didn't point out you forgot the '?' at the end of your question.

Just kidding.

[CDLehner]

The points have all been made, is it not time to just drop the whole thing. Just asking.

Absolutely! As long as one side, doesn't walk away distorting the message.

I don't recall anyone saying it makes you "dumb". If they did...I don't feel that way.

"Lazy"...well; perhaps that's not quite the word. But from my own perspective...I guess I would ask this: why not?

I mean...I can only speak for myself; and I didn't major in English Lit at Princeton. I believe we were taught that you start a sentence with a cap, and basic punctuational; in Elementary school! It just seems natural AFAIC; so it's almost as if it takes more effort, not to do it.

But that's just me...and just like when it comes to taste in gear; I understand what I think, doesn't apply to everyone. I don't see online life, as any different from "real" life. When I send an email to a co-worker...I check it. Note to a friend...I check it. I don't want to look like an idiot; and sure...if someone knows better, then they're less likely to judge.

I was just kind of surprised, by some of the reactions. It was almost as if people were pleading "hey...if we want to post like idiots; stop coming down on us man". Also...I think it was specifically mentioned; no one was talking about EAASL, or if you have some learning disability.

But hey...it's no skin off my back; post how ya want

[MDP]

Lets just move on.......................PLEASE

[kev313]

Lets just move on.......................PLEASE

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[JoeESP9]

What bothers me is a recent trend to use the phrase "I could care less" in place of "I couldn't care less". They mean completely different things.

[Steve]

This thread has gone Mary Poppins. :o

[SCompRacer]

Isn't it better to be ticked off than ticked on?

[bzr]

This thread has gone Mary Poppins. :o

..Yup! Absolutely..

[crwilli]

What has happened in this thread over the last few pages is exactly what ticks me off about forums in general. Move on or take it outside please.

[mep]

It doesn't appear that this thread has brought out the best in our normally jovial members. I would have expected this in the Who's Deaf Forum, but not here.