Anyone Into Coffee?

[hoosiertom]

Jonathan,

Belated welcome to Audioshark... and a coffee aficiando to boot

All the best
Tom SE MI

[jtinn]

Jonathan,

belated welcome to Audioshark... and a coffee aficiando to boot

All the best
Tom SE MI

Thanks Tom!

[wisnon]

To me coffee is like audiophilia, it's all in the details! It starts with the right coffee beans all the way to brew, you screw up one part and the experience is lost!

LoL

I chose any from here, except Jablum:
https://www.google.com/search?q=jama...2&ved=0CDsQsAQ

[MDP]

I really love coffee too. I'm more mainstream though. I order from Peets and use my burr grinder every morning, then brew it through my Technivorm Moccamaster.

My usual coffees are Aged Sumatra, Arabian Mocha Sanani.

[CPP]

I really love coffee too. I'm more mainstream though. I order from Peets and use my burr grinder every morning, then brew it through my Technivorm Moccamaster.

My usual coffees are Aged Sumatra, Arabian Mocha Sanani.

Just wondering, which model Technivorm Moccamaster do you have ?

[MDP]

Hey Chris, it's a Clubline, with the regular carafe. They also make one with a thermos carafe. I've had it for over 10 yrs.,and it still makes the best coffee.

[elcoholic]

In the Patrick Bowers series by Steven James he refers to it as "Charbucks" and says stuff like "Going to Starbucks for good coffee is like going to McDonalds for steak".

I got into roasting for economy. $5.50 lb green vs. $15 for 3/4 lb. roasted for my choice of single origin coffee bought from the guy that cupped it at the farm and bought it from the guy that grew and processed it. No middleman or coffee exchange. A hot air popper is akin to a fluidized bed and can do very nicely, but is also very time consuming at 4 oz. per batch. My $300 Behmoor paidout in 6 months and it does a pound in about 23 minutes vs 1 1/2 hrs. It has a catalytic converter but there's still too much smoke/smell to roast in the house, so I roast in the garage with the door open and run a fan.

The $9k Probat single drum sample roaster is considered by many to be the holy grail home roaster but it only does 3 oz. batches. It's really I was 1st told about the $1300 Huki 500 by a guy that has a Probat and wants a Huki because it offers more control than the Probat. For close to even money I'd give the Huki points for capacity over the 7 oz. Quest M3 and stick to a once a week roasting schedule.

[mep]

I'm still looking for a decent coffee brewer. The two that were listed on this thread received lots of horrible reviews.

[wisnon]

Have you tried cryogenically treated beans roasted in a magnetically shielded/mechanically grounded roaster? A religious experience I tell you. You could never go back to bog standard coffee after that!
Additionally the roasting pan should be graphene lined to bring out the subtle flavors that are hidden below the taste threshold , the olefactory floor, if you will.
LoL

[hoosiertom]

I'm still looking for a decent coffee brewer. The two that were listed on this threads received lots of horrible reviews.

This thread has taken on a life of it's own Which brewers are you referring to ??? What are your budget/criteria ?? Single cup, multiple cup ???
If it's single cup a bodum french press does a great job.. Don't forget an electric kettle with a programmable thermostat... 195-205 degrees is the sweet spot
a Barratza Virtuoso or Rocky Rancillo w/out a doser are two good choices and of course a gram scale for coffee weight
Hope this helps,
Tom

[mep]

This thread has taken on a life of it's own Which brewers are you referring to ??? What are your budget/criteria ?? Single cup, multiple cup ???
If it's single cup a bodum french press does a great job.. Don't forget an electric kettle with a programmable thermostat... 195-205 degrees is the sweet spot
a Barratza Virtuoso or Rocky Rancillo w/out a doser are two good choices and of course a gram scale for coffee weight
Hope this helps,
Tom

I was specifically referring to the Technivorm moccamaster and the Behmoor Brazen. The reviews on both of them are so bad they are almost hilarious. I already have a French Press, so I'm talking about buying a machine that can brew at least 4 cups of coffee. As for price, let's say $200-$400.

[hoosiertom]

I was specifically referring to the Technivorm moccamaster and the Behmoor Brazen. The reviews on both of them are so bad they are almost hilarious. I already have a French Press, so I'm talking about buying a machine that can brew at least 4 cups of coffee. As for price, let's say $200-$400.

8, 12 or 16 oz cups ?
Should this brewer also keep the coffee warm ? Over what period of time ?

[MDP]

Mark. are you talking about the Technivorm ? I've had mine for over 10 yrs. without any problems. Our friends and my sister have them now also, and absolutely love them.

[GaryProtein]

The Technivorm makes very good coffee for a household drip. Gail's only, but big complaint about it is the rectangular water tube from the tank to the pot loses its chrome plating on the underside, and she has had that part replaced a few times.

The French Press makes good coffee but it is a pain in the ass to clean. It has no moving parts and you pour in measured water and coffee and stir. You brew for as long as you like with your choice of water temperature. You can't get simpler than that.

I like my Bloomfield commercial unit for everyday and party use and when I have the time to stand by the stove, I do it fully manual with my vintage stainless steel 75 year old Cory vacuum pot, which I think makes the very best coffee because all the water and all the coffee are combined at the same time and can be brewed for whatever amount of time you prefer with water that stays well into the 205 degree range (at sea level). You high altitude guys like in Denver Colo, will have trouble brewing with hot water because your water boils at 201 degrees, so the water delivered for brewing will be 10 degrees cooler (maybe 190 tops) than if you were at sea level. The vintage Silex is also a good vacuum pot. The automatic vacuum pot sold by Starbucks (if they still sell it) makes weak coffee because it doesn't allow the water in the pot to boil long enough before turning off, causing the decrease in vapor pressure to allow the coffee liquor to flow back down from the brewing funnel into the pot.

Percolators---yuck--boiled coffee

The Chemex is also OK, but I find it boring to stand there and pour the water into it for three or four minutes while it brews.

[rbbert]

One advantage of living at 5000' of elevation is that you don't have to measure the water temperature for coffee brewing A French press can brew a lot of cups, but it won't keep them warm like an insulated carafe.

[mep]

Mark. are you talking about the Technivorm ? I've had mine for over 10 yrs. without any problems. Our friends and my sister have them now also, and absolutely love them.

Yes, I'm talking about that machine. There are plenty of horror story reviews as well as good reviews. If you have had yours for over 10 years and had no problems, that's awesome.

[mep]

8, 12 or 16 oz cups ?
Should this brewer also keep the coffee warm ? Over what period of time ?

I don't need it to brew more than 8 cups. I like the idea of an insulated pot that keeps the coffee warm for close to an hour without having a burner.

[GaryProtein]

One advantage of living at 5000' of elevation is that you don't have to measure the water temperature for coffee brewing A French press can brew a lot of cups, but it won't keep them warm like an insulated carafe.

YES you do! The water starts out cooler and ends up cooler when you pour it into the coffee pot.

[GaryProtein]

8, 12 or 16 oz cups ?
Should this brewer also keep the coffee warm ? Over what period of time ?

With french press, you brew it and drink it. NO SAVING IT because the grounds stay in the pot.

[rbbert]

YES you do! The water starts out cooler and ends up cooler when you pour it into the coffee pot.

Not sure what you mean. Water boils at just under 203 degrees F, near the high end of the ideal range. I just pour into the French press.

[hoosiertom]

Mep,

Sorry for the confusion....
I was asking you the CAPACITY/ SIZE PER INDIVIDUAL CUP. 8 ounce individual cup, 12 ounce individual cup, or 16 ounce individual cup
EG, a French tasse (cup) usually a 4 ounce size.... others define as 5 or 6 ounces...YMMV
Most coffee shops offer 8,12, or 16 ounce size
When I brew with my smallest french press my indivual cup of coffee IS 16 OUNCES

[Spla'nin]

I still remember my parents chrome sunbeam coffeemaster .. hard to beat a good vacuum brewed cup.

Vacuum Coffee Pots:* History

[mep]

Mep,

Sorry for the confusion....
I was asking you the CAPACITY/ SIZE PER INDIVIDUAL CUP. 8 ounce individual cup, 12 ounce individual cup, or 16 ounce individual cup
EG, a French tasse (cup) usually a 4 ounce size.... others define as 5 or 6 ounces...YMMV
Most coffee shops offer 8,12, or 16 ounce size
When I brew with my smallest french press my indivual cup of coffee IS 16 OUNCES

Tom-I gotcha now. I would say my wife and I drink 6 oz cups at a time and I like to brew four 6 oz cups at a time.

[hoosiertom]

Mep,

Sounds like a large capacity french press and an insulated carafe might be worth investing YMMV

Apolgies for the confusion

[hoosiertom]

With french press, you brew it and drink it. NO SAVING IT because the grounds stay in the pot.

I know, I own 3 french presses, a Chemex and a Techniviorm...it seems I'm spreading confusion rather than clarity

[mep]

I have a french press and the little woman doesn't care for the taste of french press coffee.

[MikeCh]

I have a french press and the little woman doesn't care for the taste of french press coffee.

Nor do we and that's why (boring as it may be to use) we've used the Chemex for the past twenty or so years. Few moving parts (the vessel, the filter, the hot water, the ground coffee + time for the drip) make it pretty fail safe. In addition, the initial investment is pretty easy on the wallet.

http://www.chemexcoffeemaker.com/

[Steve]

My latest daily pod machine takes Lavazza. As good as a grind IMO. No artificial additives or flavours like that George Clunky brand.

You can power it with a repurposed Anaconda too for even more cohergenic flavour!

[mep]

I thought we were talking about real coffee?

[Steve]

I thought we were talking about real coffee?

All for a real perc grind when I have the time, otherwise its the Lavazza. I love a good Kilimanjaro bean. Kona or Hawaiian coffee is quite unique but not for my palette.

[GaryProtein]

I have a french press and the little woman doesn't care for the taste of french press coffee.

French press and vacuum pot coffee is very nutty tasting.

[rbbert]

I have a french press and the little woman doesn't care for the taste of french press coffee.

Unlike filtered coffee or espresso, French press allows (or forces) ALL the flavors in the bean to come through. So the better the bean and roast, the better it tastes. Conversely with less than stellar beans/roast, more objectionable flavors come through. It's also important to have a very coarse grind, but given all the signage to that effect on most presses I'm assuming that isn't the problem.

[GaryProtein]

I somehow doubt most people use the coarse grind the presses recommend.

The presses and vacuum pots also allow some silt/mud if you will, from the coffee to come through because their filter screens have monstrous holes compared to what goes through a paper filter.

[GaryProtein]

One advantage of living at 5000' of elevation is that you don't have to measure the water temperature for coffee brewing A French press can brew a lot of cups, but it won't keep them warm like an insulated carafe.

I didn't see your post.

I guess if you pour fast from the stove to a pre-heated French press you do have the right temperature right off the stove, but the fact is, the temperature of boiling water drops VERY rapidly once you take it off the stove.

This is starting to sound like an audiophile tweaking thread!

[Myles B. Astor]

Combining the best of two worlds!



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[Garth]

Cute Myles I hope your wife did that

[Glareskin]

I'm not judgemental I'm just curious, you tried local roasters or the bagged variety in the past?

Good question! Well, it is not so easy to judge what is fresh coffee or locally roasted coffee as you put it. I did try coffees from specialized coffee houses like Simon Levelt in this photo:

Now I am trying a bagged coffee from the famous Colombian coffee house / chain Juan Valdez that I received as a gift from a colleague in Bogotá last week. Works great in the Jura by the way...

[Glareskin]

Combining the best of two worlds!

Wow! You are a true Barista with your frothing and latte art technique :-)

[Mick Wolfe]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the AeroPress ( unless I missed it ). Similar in principal to a French press, but uses paper filters. I've had very good results from this inexpensive little device. Another inexpensive option is the Yama Siphon, but it creates more of a mess than as it can brew 5 cups...so there's basically a lot more grounds to deal with in the clean up process. Have given up on drip coffee makers. Yes, even the Technivorm.
I occasionally roast beans with an the entry level Fresh Roast 8. It's decent for small batches, but it best be monitored closely or you'll up with an Italian roast or worse. Serious roasters wanting to do bigger batches and have more heat control need to move on to the more expensive roasters.

[elcoholic]

I use an Aeropress when I travel and at the office. My kit includes a Bonavita travel kettle and a Hario Slim grinder. I don't use the paper filters because I like the mouth feel of french press coffee. There's an aftermarket perforated metal filter called the Abel Disk. I use the standard, but they also have a finer one. The Aeropress makes an excellent cup.

[Myles B. Astor]

How to Make Perfect Coffee - Atlantic Mobile

[MDP]

Thanks Myles.

I've had my Technivorm for 10 yrs. If it ever breaks, I will buy another.

I love French press also, but I'm too lazy to do that every day.

[hoosiertom]

Thanks Myles.

I've had my Technivorm for 10 yrs. If it ever breaks, I will buy another.

I love French press also, but I'm too lazy to do that every day.

I have both the Technivorm and the French Press... The frequency of usage is just the opposite of yours... I roast and grind my Harrar beans and and I'm lazy too... Go figure I don't usually drink any more than 16 oz. at a time

TR SE Michigan 28 degrees... today's heatwave

[Stringreen]

Kona is good, but waking up to the animal sounds of Kenya, and having a Masi deliver a hot pot of the dark brew grown on a nearby mountain, seriously chases the morning chill and sleep from the eyes.

[mep]

Kona is good, but waking up to the animal sounds of Kenya, and having a Masi deliver a hot pot of the dark brew grown on a nearby mountain, seriously chases the morning chill and sleep from the eyes.

I wonder if Juan Valdez and his donkey show up at your door in the morning if you live in Columbia.