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Thread: Hegel H30 Reference Amp
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April 23, 2013, 07:09 PM #1
Hegel H30 Reference Amp
I heard about these amps in passing and then did some research on them. On paper they sound like a great amp. Has anyone listened to this amp or any experience with Hegel products?
thx
allen
Hegel H30 Reference Power Amplifier (TAS 223) | The Absolute Sound
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Allen
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April 23, 2013, 07:49 PM #2
Very appealing aesthetically and consistently good reviews. The technical director, Bent, has an interesting background (back page of latest TAS which I'm sure you've seen!). Haven't heard them though...
Ron
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April 23, 2013, 07:59 PM #3
That's what I'm hearing, too, Ron.
To quote the retailer (who shall rename nameless) who first introduced me to the brand: "I have a Hegel amp that is infinitely more musical than your current system at a fraction of the price..."
Needless to say I won't be auditioning that amp at his showroom, LOL! But am intrigued just the same.
Allen
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April 23, 2013, 09:39 PM #4
I just bought the Hegel H30 and P30. Still boxed and unopened. I had previously auditioned the P30 and it beat my VAC preamp. It comes close to the performance level of my ARC Ref40 preamp. The H30 is equally incredible, especially when paired with the P30. Together at roughly $23,000 they compete with six figure set ups relative musicality, drive, grip, delicacy, harmonics etc. They could charge 3x what they are and I wouldn't think that is insane. Freakishly good for the price. H30 beat my VAC 450S on a few dimensions. Nothing approaches the magic of my Constellation, but if I didn't have the Centaur I would be happy with the H30. Robert Harley's review is spot on.
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April 23, 2013, 09:52 PM #5
Thx, Darrin. Wow, Hegel and Contellation! Sweet! The Centaur's driving the S5s, correct? Would love to hear any feedback if you tried the Hegel w the S5s. . That's the combo I was considering.
Allen
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April 23, 2013, 10:44 PM #6
Yes the Hegel and S5 is very very good. If I didn't have Centaur I would mate Hegel with S5. But if you can reach for Centaur that is where the magic lives. If you want to buy a new P30 and H30 send me a PM. Was going to use in my second system but don't have to.
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April 24, 2013, 08:55 AM #7
Thx, Darrin. Would like to give them a listen first.
Until then, how would you describe the difference between the two?
Cheers
Allen
Allen
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April 24, 2013, 09:19 AM #8André - - - Keep it simple system
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April 24, 2013, 09:34 AM #9Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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April 24, 2013, 07:29 PM #10
Haha! I'll keep that in mind, Andre! I actually had this on Agon for a little while before I pulled it. A friend of mine said keep it as it's one of Rowland's best.
Hey Joe, go for the 458s mentioned in the other thread, Howie will pick up your 108, I'll buy Darrin's Hegel, and Andre will buy my Rowland. Come on, let's get this swap meet rolling!
Allen
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April 24, 2013, 07:31 PM #11Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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April 24, 2013, 07:33 PM #12
Darrin what amp were you running before the Constellation?
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April 24, 2013, 11:02 PM #13
sorry duplicate post
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April 24, 2013, 11:05 PM #14
Hi, John. Here's the convoluted history of my amps, thanks for asking....
I started with a VAC 300.1a running Esoteric MG20 speakers (wow the transparency was too much for me!), then upgraded to the VAC Statement 450S and it was a definite step up....more holographic, more drive, more texture, more, more, more of the VAC goodness....and the tube heat ugggh. Then I auditioned a Hegel P30 which surprised the hell out of me. I was surprised by the little P30...it beat my VAC preamp...made my VAC 450S sound so much better through my Magico speakers...more extension, bigger, etc. One area it didn't beat the VAC was in harmonic texture. The beauty of VAC is a violin sounds like a violin - no electronic sheen that disrupts the illusion of musicians in your room. But the P30 (and the H30) brought a "bigness" of sound and grip especially on the low end that made me think my Magicos were playing midrange and above with the VAC. No heat and perfect synergy with the P30, I was ready to put the H30 into active duty and call it a day.
Then....Then....Then....and it is the biggest "THEN" I can write....along came Constellation Centaur (I'm listening to it right now). I don't have the words to express what I'm hearing. I didn't know it could sound this good. If Magico wanted to have powered S5s all they have to do is incorporate the Centaur and call it a day. It is everything and then some....but not too much. Gentle and strong at the same time. Full but precise. My woofers have no dust on them. ZERO, absolutely ZERO fatigue, but 1,000,000,000,000,000 percent detail and transparency. Smooth as a baby's bottom. I could go on and on and on. Best way i can describe is the Centaur with the Magico S5 speakers exceeds my expectations and obsessive perfection every time I hit play or drop the cue.
If I had to choose one word to describe the sound of the Centaur it would be "delectable"
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April 24, 2013, 11:17 PM #15
Darrin,
I can not tell you how happy I am to see you this excited about gear. I was really missing you over "there" and I am so glad to have you here.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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April 24, 2013, 11:21 PM #16
Joe,
I am appreciative that you invited me over "here"....you and I are spiritual audio brothers for sure.
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April 24, 2013, 11:33 PM #17Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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April 24, 2013, 11:48 PM #18
Hi, Allen.
H30 is in charge and in control (especially when mated with P30), and throws a big sound with great articulation at the low end and a sweet high end.
The Constellation Centaur is hard to put into words....all that the VAC and the Hegel brought and then more of everything that matters including delicacy, float, fullness, nuance, detail, balance, etc. I'd love to sell my Hegel equipment but if someone had the coin, I'd point them to Constellation if they owned the S5 speakers. Hegel will provide happiness. Constellation...ecstasy.
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April 25, 2013, 08:42 PM #19
Re: Hegel H30 Reference Amp
Thank you for the great description, Darrin, very helpful. Over the next month, I'm sure I will audition the two amps. Sounds like a win in either case!
Allen
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September 14, 2015, 06:42 AM #20
Re: Hegel H30 Reference Amp
Darrin, I have been following your post and comments about the Hegel H30/P30 combo that I will be auditioning next Sunday.
I currently own an integrated Luxman 590AX, 30 watts class A. My room is 10X12 not the best but good enough for NYC standards of living.
I am looking for an amp that bring nirvana on near fields at low volume without being forward sounding.
I own Harbeth 30.1 and Dali Helicon's 800 MKII.
What do you think about the Hegel combo?
Regards
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September 14, 2015, 10:12 AM #21
Re: Hegel H30 Reference Amp
Hello. I was very impressed with the Hegel combo. I thought great performance at that price point. I used the amp in stereo mode and it was plenty to drive my Maggie 3.7 and Magico S5 speakers. I thought the constellation was better. And then happened cross used marantz monos that (in my system) sounded even better. Always important to try the gear since impedance and power matching to a speaker is important.
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