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Thread: REL - which one?
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February 15, 2014, 10:49 PM #51
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Re: REL - which one?
Before the sub is broken in you should try and get the timing/phasing in line. Not sure if or how a graph would show that. What I mean is you DO NOT want the sub leading or lagging the main speakers. I think if that isn't set up properly most folks who don't care for subs this would be a very valid reason. I've only used my ears and times when I thought I had it right I really didn't. One trick that works for me is to set the crossover a little on the high side along with the gain. I find with the sub being somewhat pronounced it's a little easier to hear if it's leading or lagging the main speakers. Then readjust the crossover point. The gain is a little more tricky. Listen to many different types of music before making a final decision. What may sound right for music with little sub bass is most likely too much for the music that really goes to the bottom octave.
Just my 2 centsGeorge
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February 16, 2014, 12:22 AM #52
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April 8, 2014, 10:29 PM #53
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Re: REL - which one?
Hey Mike,
I could bring my (2) REL 528SE's down for a weekend for you to try out. But sometimes it takes a couple of weeks worth of (constant experimentation) to get them truly dialed in. Not sure I would want my system down that long ?? But....let's see...uh....I've been wanting to arrange a demo of the Alexia's in my house......hmmmm. Just kidding. Those would be a bear to move. But I could arrange a weekend if ya want. Maybe bring the new PS Audio Direct Stream DAC and those REL's for a weekend ??
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April 8, 2014, 11:04 PM #54
Re: REL - which one?
How about you just come down for a listen? Anytime! I've owned REL subs before. Love them!
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April 8, 2014, 11:16 PM #55
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Re: REL - which one?
Wasn't sure if you were still wanting to try the REL subs in your system as this link suggested ?? I will give your Alexia's a better listen when I bring the Direct Stream down your way.
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April 8, 2014, 11:31 PM #56
Re: REL - which one?
I'm looking forward to hearing that Jerry.
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October 17, 2015, 07:41 AM #57
Re: REL - which one?
Ive had last year the R528SE (sold it, wrong move...) now this last week I had the chance to hear a G2. Oh man that is a great, great sub, the integration with the main speakers is seamless, they bring the performance of my Mojo to a level I couldn't predict.
Sorry for resurrecting this old thread, but I just had to say it
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October 17, 2015, 11:15 AM #58
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Re: REL - which one?
The REL's integrate VERY well. And yes, the 528 SE (special editions), were a limited edition series that played way above their price point. I have (3) for sale, if anyone needs a great sub. My new speakers plumb the depths, so the subwoofers are not needed. I have two piano black 528 SE's, and (1) gloss white 528 SE. Take your pick at $1600 each.
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October 18, 2015, 07:04 AM #59
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Re: REL - which one?
Has anyone carefully compared the G1 to the Studio III? (i suspect the Studio III is superior to the G1 in low frquency extension and sound pressure level.)
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November 4, 2017, 12:20 PM #60
Re: REL - which one?
I just added a REL 212SE to my system and ended up keeping the S5 i had to use on the lt side of my system. I had one of the REL VPs come over to set up the room to ideal sound. He spent about 2 hrs and the result is just amazing. At some point i will swap out the S5 for a second 212SE.
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November 4, 2017, 01:50 PM #61
Re: REL - which one?
I have 212 SEs.
Cannot imagine anything better in my system.
Of course, for my purposes, they start rolling off a bit over 30 Hz...DPT4ME - Dynamics, Presence & Tone for Musical Engagement; MBP (3) - stripped down for music only; Shunyata Omega & Sigma USBs; ISO REGEN w/short Curious USB links; Berkeley Alpha USB; Aqua La Scala II Optologic DAC; Schiit Yggdrasil - fully updated; Ayre Codex dac - updated; Pass Labs INT-60 integrated amp; Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE-2 preamp, Quicksilver Mono 120 amps w/Tung-Sol KT150s; Quicksilver Mid Mono amps w/Gold Lion KT77s; Fyne Audio 703s; Symposium Svelte Plus & Ultra Platforms; REL S-812 subwoofers; Duelund DCA12GA speaker cables; AV Room Service EVPs, Stein Music Harmonizers, Duelund DCA16GA & 20GA ICs; Shunyata Denali 6000S/V2; Tripp Lite PCs; Wyred 4 Sound power cords; AudioDharma cable cooker; dedicated custom room; various GIK & ASC room treatments; etc.
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November 4, 2017, 01:57 PM #62
Re: REL - which one?
Mr. Smith...I completely agree. I will get the 2nd one after the first of the year..
Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
Cables:
Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
CAD-CG-1
Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
Nordost V2 ethernet cable
EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin
Tweaks:
Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs
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