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    Re: Lumin Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Jim - As others stated, you can have your digital files on a network storage device (like Synology) or USB device or the L1. I personally used an USB device initially but settled on the L1. The L1 is just plug and play; doesn’t get any easier.

    Hope that helps!

    PS - The S-1 allows to invert phase in the tools setting area. Not sure about the U-1.
    Thanks Mike!

    So if you do not use a network, you can use the L1 plugged directly into the U1?
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    Re: Lumin Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    Thanks Mike!

    So if you do not use a network, you can use the L1 plugged directly into the U1?
    The L1 works like a NAS. It connects via your network. You can plug it in in any room, that resides on the same network as the U1.

    The L1 sounds better than a USB attached drive or even a Synology/QNAP NAS.

    The other option, is you can buy a $99 USB external HD and attach that to the U1. I personally prefer my U1 with the L1. I think Jock found the same.
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    Re: Lumin Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The L1 works like a NAS. It connects via your network. You can plug it in in any room, that resides on the same network as the U1.

    The L1 sounds better than a USB attached drive or even a Synology/QNAP NAS.

    The other option, is you can buy a $99 USB external HD and attach that to the U1. I personally prefer my U1 with the L1. I think Jock found the same.
    Thanks Mike - as I mentioned, unfortunately I do not - and most likely will not - have a network in my demo room. It is in my office building. Was hoping to simply replace my 3(!) MBPs with the U1.
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    Re: Lumin Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    Thanks Mike - as I mentioned, unfortunately I do not - and most likely will not - have a network in my demo room. It is in my office building. Was hoping to simply replace my 3(!) MBPs with the U1.
    Are you wireless? The U1 can work with an add on product like a wireless network extender from TP Link. Something like this (or better): https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wirel.../dp/B002T4D3M2
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    Re: Lumin Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Are you wireless? The U1 can work with an add on product like a wireless network extender from TP Link. Something like this (or better): https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wirel.../dp/B002T4D3M2
    Nope - not wireless. Always been a doubter - in fact there is no wireless of any kind in my office bldg/sound room. Generally the same set-up as I used at your place, only with the Berkely Alpha USB & better (also heavier & larger) DACs than the small & relatively lightweight Ayre Codex.

    Was just hoping to escape computers here - even if they are stripped-down-to-music-only - and not go backwards sonically, from a musical engagement standpoint.

    No need to reply if it's network based, as I don't want to wear you guys out. Thanks again!
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    You don't have your U1 connected to a network? Missing out on Tidal etc if so I guess, to me one of the pleasures of that device and app.

    If that's really the case - no network anywhere - then you might try connecting the L1 to the U1 Ethernet port using a crossover cable. Not too sure that'll work but would be interesting to try.

    Personally, I wouldn't want a hard drive anywhere near my U1, unless maybe it was solid state. A small, simple network might still be your best option. Doesn't even need to be internet-connected, although that's how the U1 gets firmware updates....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmusica View Post
    You don't have your U1 connected to a network? Missing out on Tidal etc if so I guess, to me one of the pleasures of that device and app.

    If that's really the case - no network anywhere - then you might try connecting the L1 to the U1 Ethernet port using a crossover cable. Not too sure that'll work but would be interesting to try.
    As I mentioned above, I have a network in the house for Tidal, etc...

    Just not in my office/sound room.
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    Re: Lumin Review

    Another issue you will have without a network is how to control the U1. The app uses wifi to the network to control the U1. Of course other than the MBP, I think they all use wifi for control of the unit, so this issue is not only Lumin.

    I use a simple apple network router for the 2 L1s, U1 and wifi for my listening room.
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    Re: Lumin Review

    The new Roon Nucleus might be just the thing:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...PJV___nuQ/edit
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    Re: Lumin Review

    Wireless works ok; however, I much prefer the ethernet connection to the Lumin. In my prior home, I had a wireless network extender for the Lumin. Occasionally, I would have some streaming interruptions (quality of service is not 100%). In our new home, I'm using an ethernet cable from the router to the Lumin and it works beautifully.

    Jim, to your question, the L-1 must be connected to the network, not directly to the Lumin U-1.

    Lastly, no need to respond. Just read the messages from earlier today.
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