Results 1 to 16 of 16
-
April 19, 2013, 01:54 PM #1Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Florida
- Posts
- 267
Tell me why it is more clear on "high treble"
Gear: MT10, c2300, mc275, elipsa se
Vinyl: The second John Handy Album:
Normally I muck around with bass controls but today I am playing with treble.
The vinyl has a lot of drum rolls. When I turned the treble from 0 to 4 all of a sudden I heard the drummer clicking his drum sticks together. It was not apparent he was doing this when treble set at 0. Tell me about treble. Am I overcoming issues with my room etc?Vintage Bedroom Gear: Dual CS 5000, McIntosh C29, McIntosh MC300, MR78 Sonus Faber Concertino
Listening Room Gear McIntosh MT10, McIntosh c2300, McIntosh MC275MKVI Mono'd, Sonus Faber Elipsa SE
-
April 19, 2013, 02:39 PM #2Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Long Island
- Posts
- 411
It's possible, do you have a lot of non reflective surface(carpet, drapes, curtains, etc...)?
Originally Posted by Bill13
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
2 Channel: Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE, Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2, Manley Mahi Monoblocks, DIY SEOS Waveguide/Dipole Bass Towers
HT: Marantz AV7005, Wyred 4 MMC5, DIY SEOS Towers, DIY 7CF Sealed 18" Subs
PC: Wyred 4 Sound mINT, KEF Q100, Hifiman HE-6
-
April 19, 2013, 02:45 PM #3Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Florida
- Posts
- 267
No not a lot.
Vintage Bedroom Gear: Dual CS 5000, McIntosh C29, McIntosh MC300, MR78 Sonus Faber Concertino
Listening Room Gear McIntosh MT10, McIntosh c2300, McIntosh MC275MKVI Mono'd, Sonus Faber Elipsa SE
-
April 19, 2013, 03:11 PM #4Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Seattle Area
- Posts
- 1,381
Bill,
we sort of need a before and after ...
Have you listened to this before and suddenly its changed ?
If not, how does this pressing sound on one of the other 1/2 dozen tables I KNOW you have ? LOL
If your stylus clean ? Have you jarred it recently..
Do your other LP's sound better on 4 ? If so, there is your answer...not enough treble. LOL...I tend to have treble set at 4, bass at 6, scale of -10 to 10 (zero being flat of course)
Basically what I am asking is think to ANYTHING you have done between THEN and NOW, Try some other albums..Report Back...Over and out...
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
-
April 19, 2013, 03:44 PM #5Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Toronto,Ontario
- Posts
- 4,978
Bill...hate to tell you..but as previous Elipsa owner. I don't consider the Elipsa as detailed speakers.
Now I hear way more detailed sound compare to Elipsa.
Oh...Don't forget the Tube amplifier. They are not detail as SS amp for sure and that issue relate to bass too.Last edited by Paul; April 19, 2013 at 03:53 PM.
Paul
-
April 19, 2013, 04:36 PM #6Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Florida
- Posts
- 267
Rob and Paul. no this is not a sudden change. I have inherited a vast record collection and this Jazz piece had a lot of drumming on it and I was playing and noticed excellent detail when I turned the treble higher Normally I do not mess with treble. I have spoke to others with Elipsas prior to purchase. I would imagine the detail is the same as Strads as I believe speakers have same tweeter
Paul: Correct me if I am wrong: You had the standard Elipsa, not the new SE right?Last edited by Bill13; April 19, 2013 at 04:41 PM.
Vintage Bedroom Gear: Dual CS 5000, McIntosh C29, McIntosh MC300, MR78 Sonus Faber Concertino
Listening Room Gear McIntosh MT10, McIntosh c2300, McIntosh MC275MKVI Mono'd, Sonus Faber Elipsa SE
-
April 19, 2013, 04:58 PM #7Super Moderator
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- NY
- Posts
- 18,726
Elipsa SE sounds like a speaker after my own heart
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
-
April 19, 2013, 05:24 PM #8Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Toronto,Ontario
- Posts
- 4,978
Bill...Yes. as my own but I had a Elipsa SE loaner for 2 weeks last year doing a comparison coz I was thinking to change to SE version. Originally Posted by Bill13
Paul
-
April 19, 2013, 05:48 PM #9Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Seattle Area
- Posts
- 1,381
Bill,
It may be the album, it may be you needed more treble all along. I do have certain albums where I back off the bass to 4 (from 6) so my 4 treble and 6 bass are not cast in stone.
Like I said ..try some other albums..it may be prefect for that one but on others , 4 may be WAY too much...MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
-
April 19, 2013, 06:09 PM #10Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Florida
- Posts
- 267
Perhaps: But I am playing a pink floyd and the same is true. I turn up the treble and the triangles and clapping of drum sticks is clearly more evident.
Vintage Bedroom Gear: Dual CS 5000, McIntosh C29, McIntosh MC300, MR78 Sonus Faber Concertino
Listening Room Gear McIntosh MT10, McIntosh c2300, McIntosh MC275MKVI Mono'd, Sonus Faber Elipsa SE
-
April 19, 2013, 06:10 PM #11Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Seattle Area
- Posts
- 1,381
Then my friend, you have answered your own question. Did the dealer tell you your speakers would sound better "flat" ? I have never been a FLAT or SOURCE DIRECT guy myself...Tune to DA room...LOL..and your ears... Originally Posted by Bill13
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
-
April 19, 2013, 06:19 PM #12Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Seattle Area
- Posts
- 1,381
Posted in wrong post...LOL
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
-
April 21, 2013, 08:56 PM #13Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- NY
- Posts
- 681
Tell me why it is more clear on "high treble"
It ISN'T more "clear" on high treble.
You're just increasing the volume on a selected portion of the spectrum and accentuating those sounds you wouldn't normally hear.
If a speaker or room is bad or not exactly to your liking in either absolute terms or on a particular recording, you can alter how it sounds with tone controls so it fits your preference.Listening Room: McIntosh C46, MEN220, MCD500, MR78-Modafferi modified, MPI4, MC602 (2), Pass Labs XVR1 (three-way), tri-amplified Infinity IRS Series V, TailTwister T2X rotator, AtlasSound FMA Rack, dedicated electrical sub-panel, NO TV!
Living Room: McIntosh C28, MC2300, Revox B226, Tascam CD355, Thorens TD125 MKII w/vacuum platter, Rabco SL-8E, Grace F9-E, McIntosh ML-2C (2) & ML-1C (4) stacked, MQ-107, SAE 2800, Nakamichi Dragon, Tandberg 64X, JL Audio f113 (2), NO TV!
-
April 22, 2013, 04:14 AM #14Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Posts
- 1,621
Get a hearing test,until then all else is total s...peculation!
-
April 22, 2013, 07:11 AM #15Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Location
- Florida
- Posts
- 267
what?! Originally Posted by bzr
Get a hearing test,until then all else is total s...peculation!Vintage Bedroom Gear: Dual CS 5000, McIntosh C29, McIntosh MC300, MR78 Sonus Faber Concertino
Listening Room Gear McIntosh MT10, McIntosh c2300, McIntosh MC275MKVI Mono'd, Sonus Faber Elipsa SE
-
April 22, 2013, 07:13 AM #16Senior Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2013
- Posts
- 1,621
Lauda?
Last edited by sharkmouth; April 22, 2013 at 07:15 AM.
Reply With Quote
AudioShark - The Best High End Audio Discussion forum.
AudioShark forum is a leading forum site for High End Audio Discussion, Stereo System Discussion, Home Theater System Discussion, Best Home Stereo System Discussion, Home Theater Installation Discussion etc.
The AudioShark forum was created for sharing the passion of high-end Audio. We have Audiophiles from all over the world participating and sharing their knowledge. From novice to experts, you will find a friendly environment for discussing about High End Audio, Stereo System, Home Theater System, Home Stereo System, Home Theater Installation, Amplifiers, Speakers, Subwoofers, Integrated System, Acoustic treatments & Digital Room Corrections and many more.
At AudioShark, we also have incorporated an exciting Marketplace where members can peruse terrific buys on used gear, as well as meet dealers and discuss the purchase of new gear.
We are as crazy about this hobby as you are! So come on in and join us! Audioshark.org the Friendliest Audio Forum!
Industry Participation Disclosure : The owner and administrator of Audioshark is the owner of Suncoast Audio LLC in Sarasota Florida. Suncoast Audio has a full brick and mortar presence in Sarasota with several great show rooms with many world class brands. More information can be found at http://www.suncoastaudio.com
Audioshark is a community of like minded individuals. Audioshark welcomes participation from all manufacturers and owners of all brands and products. It is our belief that online forums provide a community of like minded audiophiles and music lovers to encourage the growth of this wonderful hobby.
Sincerely,
The Audioshark.org Team
AudioShark forum is a leading forum site for High End Audio Discussion, Stereo System Discussion, Home Theater System Discussion, Best Home Stereo System Discussion, Home Theater Installation Discussion etc.
The AudioShark forum was created for sharing the passion of high-end Audio. We have Audiophiles from all over the world participating and sharing their knowledge. From novice to experts, you will find a friendly environment for discussing about High End Audio, Stereo System, Home Theater System, Home Stereo System, Home Theater Installation, Amplifiers, Speakers, Subwoofers, Integrated System, Acoustic treatments & Digital Room Corrections and many more.
At AudioShark, we also have incorporated an exciting Marketplace where members can peruse terrific buys on used gear, as well as meet dealers and discuss the purchase of new gear.
We are as crazy about this hobby as you are! So come on in and join us! Audioshark.org the Friendliest Audio Forum!
Industry Participation Disclosure : The owner and administrator of Audioshark is the owner of Suncoast Audio LLC in Sarasota Florida. Suncoast Audio has a full brick and mortar presence in Sarasota with several great show rooms with many world class brands. More information can be found at http://www.suncoastaudio.com
Audioshark is a community of like minded individuals. Audioshark welcomes participation from all manufacturers and owners of all brands and products. It is our belief that online forums provide a community of like minded audiophiles and music lovers to encourage the growth of this wonderful hobby.
Sincerely,
The Audioshark.org Team
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Clarisys Arrives at Puur...