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Thread: Accuphase P-6100 amp
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November 15, 2013, 10:36 AM #1
Accuphase P-6100 amp
Next week I will be testing an Accuphase P-6100 stereo amp on my system. I've always wanted to pair an Accuphase amp with my Salon2's,so this should be very exciting !! The P-6100 is rated at 110 wpc @ 8ohms/220 @ 4ohms/440 @ 2ohms and 700 @ 1ohm. The Accuphase sound is very intoxicating ! I'm hoping it pairs well with the Revel speakers.
Special thanks to David Baskin @ Design Audio Video for the chance to do this in my own home !!Mark
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November 15, 2013, 10:54 AM #2
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Mark - this is going to be a very interesting shootout against the big CAM's. We look forward to your review and writeup (pictures too please!).
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November 15, 2013, 11:25 AM #3
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Mark, I can't wait to hear how they compare to the Classe's. Would you go with a stereo amp if it works out or look into getting mono's instead? I think the Accuphase mono selection is quite limited though.
Doug
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November 15, 2013, 12:54 PM #4
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Doug, the stereo amp would most likely be the one. The Accuphase mono's aren't cheap
Mark
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November 15, 2013, 01:42 PM #5
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
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November 15, 2013, 01:46 PM #6Jock
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November 15, 2013, 07:53 PM #7Borresen Acoustics Loudspeakers, Borresen Model 01 Compact monitor loudspeakers with Ansuz Darkz T2s Supreme resonance control, Audio Video Manufaktur GmbH (AVM) Inspiration amplifier & streamer, Innuos Zen MKII music server, Ansuz Acoustics cables & accessories. Please visit my system thread hosted on Audioshark for more details. Disclosure: The author is materially connected to Ansuz, Aavik & Borresen Acoustics via friendship with an owner.
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November 15, 2013, 08:12 PM #8
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Mark, You have my attention really looking forward to your thoughts on this combo.
Kevin
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November 15, 2013, 10:39 PM #9
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
I'll be picking it up Tuesday or Thursday, I can't wait either !
I'll let everybody knowMark
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November 15, 2013, 10:56 PM #10
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
This will be fun Mark! Look forward to your comments.
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November 16, 2013, 12:19 AM #11
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Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
I look forward to comments as well.
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November 20, 2013, 10:08 AM #12
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Well, I'm headed to David's place to pick up the Accuphase P-6100 !! David told me the Nordost rep will be there today also, lots of fun. I can't wait to get that amp home and power up the Salon 2's
Mark
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November 20, 2013, 09:36 PM #13
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
So Marc, it's been about 12 hrs, any news?
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Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
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November 20, 2013, 09:48 PM #14Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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November 20, 2013, 09:53 PM #15
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Good one Joe! You are probably right!
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November 20, 2013, 10:21 PM #16
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Well Mark? Are there going to be a pair of Classe CAM-600's going up for sale anytime soon?
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November 20, 2013, 10:29 PM #17
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November 20, 2013, 11:26 PM #18
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Mark
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November 20, 2013, 11:37 PM #19My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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November 21, 2013, 01:44 AM #20
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November 21, 2013, 07:12 AM #21
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Tough crowd!
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Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
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November 21, 2013, 06:24 PM #22
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Well, today I called Mark. I won't go into details (hope Mark posts sometime soon!) but I think he may have liked this amp...
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Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
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ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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November 21, 2013, 06:32 PM #23
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
I had to send back the Devialet 170 today and switching back to the Accuphase, I can see why Mark loves the brand. Just beautiful sounding.
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November 21, 2013, 06:43 PM #24
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I agree. I'm really looking forward to getting my E-600 that's on order.
Jock
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November 21, 2013, 10:07 PM #25
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
I'll make a post tomorrow, let's just say I'm too busy listening
Mark
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November 22, 2013, 12:02 AM #26Borresen Acoustics Loudspeakers, Borresen Model 01 Compact monitor loudspeakers with Ansuz Darkz T2s Supreme resonance control, Audio Video Manufaktur GmbH (AVM) Inspiration amplifier & streamer, Innuos Zen MKII music server, Ansuz Acoustics cables & accessories. Please visit my system thread hosted on Audioshark for more details. Disclosure: The author is materially connected to Ansuz, Aavik & Borresen Acoustics via friendship with an owner.
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November 22, 2013, 08:49 PM #27
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
I posted on the amplifier section, I want people that have no interest in Accuphase to read it before I move it here.
Mark
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November 22, 2013, 08:59 PM #28
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Great review Mark. Thanks!!
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November 22, 2013, 10:24 PM #29
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November 26, 2013, 04:39 PM #30
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Just curious. MSRP??
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November 26, 2013, 04:47 PM #31
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
$25,000
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November 26, 2013, 08:19 PM #32
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Thanks. That's a fair amount of cash for a stereo amp. Lots of choices in that price range. You wonder how much of that is import duty. Always loved the quality of Accuphase and Furutech for that matter. The Japanese make fine gear….
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November 26, 2013, 10:20 PM #33
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The Accuphase pricing outside Japan is horrible. In Japan the MSRP of the P-6100 is Yen 945.000 (US$9.3k).
The MSRP of A-200 is Yen 2.625.000/pair (US$26k) vs US$69k in US.
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November 27, 2013, 01:04 AM #34
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WoW!
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November 27, 2013, 01:23 AM #35Rick
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November 27, 2013, 01:52 AM #36
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Hi Guys,
This is my first post on audioshark. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the wonderful posts on this forum. As much as I love Accuphase gear for its build quality and the drop dead gorgeous looks, I cannot understand the US pricing. It cannot just be the import duty as the price differential between Luxman gear sold in the US and its price in Japan is significantly less. I think that the US importer for Accuphase, Axiss Audio, wants a much higher profit margin than the Luxman importer (On a Higher Note). At a business level, I have no problem with that as this strategy is Axiss Audio's prerogative and obviously has worked well for them. But just as an aside, I had called both distributors to discuss their Class A integrateds--Philip O' Hanlon (On a Higher Note) talked to me on the phone for nearly 30 minutes explaining the fine differences between Luxman's integrated offerings--he is a real class act. On the other hand, Mr. Arturo Manzano at Axiss Audio flatly refused to take my call (asking his receptionist to tell me bluntly that he had nothing to say about Accuphase products!).
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November 27, 2013, 02:46 AM #37
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Welcome apdoc2004!
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First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
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November 27, 2013, 03:25 AM #38
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~ Bob ~
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Thank you for the nice welcome guys--I hope to learn from everybody's collective experiences and possibly contribute to the discussion whenever I can.
Anshul
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November 27, 2013, 07:39 AM #40
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Not sure if that will make you feel any better, but in Europe Accuphase gear is also very expensive (compared to Japaneese prices).
Adam
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November 27, 2013, 01:14 PM #41
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Jock
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November 27, 2013, 01:17 PM #42
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He's terrific. When I read this, I was in shock. I know in David's opinion, he sets the benchmark for all distributors.
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November 27, 2013, 03:44 PM #43
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Hi Jock & Mike,
That was my impression too (from what I had read about him). I was taken aback when the lady (who picked up the phone) got back to me (after checking with him) and said in plain simple language--"He does not have anything to say about Accuphase integrated amplifiers--your dealer should answer your questions". I told her that my local dealer just lists Accuphase as one of his lines but does not have any actual experience with the integrated amplifier, but her response was the same. I repeated my request but got the same response. She did not ask for my phone number so that he could call me back at a time convenient to him. I followed this phone conversation with an e-mail which was very specific in what I wanted to find out. To my disappointment, there has been no reply (the e-mail was sent ~ 10 days ago).
The point I am making is that when you are trying to sell a premium priced product, you should be prepared to talk to a potential customer for ~ 5 minutes. Based upon this experience, I concluded that Arturo does not feel the same way or care--hence, he lost out on a customer.
Anshul
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November 27, 2013, 04:32 PM #44
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
To be fair, that isn't his job. It really is the job of your dealer. Now, your dealer could request more info on your behalf.
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November 27, 2013, 04:55 PM #45
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Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
$9300 to $25K. That's a lot of "fluff" for someone....
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November 27, 2013, 04:57 PM #46
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
+1.
A fellow audiophile from Polish hifi forum had once called Burmester headquaters in Germany with some specific questions about their gear. 1h later, Dieter Burmester himself had called him back. He ended up getting a pair of 911 monos and 077 pre with PSU ...
The guy obviously knows how to treat his (prospective) customers.Last edited by joeinid; November 27, 2013 at 05:19 PM. Reason: :)
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November 27, 2013, 06:44 PM #47
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Adam--Thank you for supporting the point that I am trying to make. Going above & beyond in your customer service never hurt anyone.
Mike--On a theoretical level, I agree with you. However, I also feel that if you are passionate about the brands you represent as a distributor, you should be willing to have a brief converation with a potential buyer. As you well know, the scarcity of Accuphase products in dealer showrooms makes it very difficult to get a decent audition. That was my main reason in reaching out to the distributor.
Kudos to Dieter Burmester for calling the customer himself. I have had multiple pleasant and extremely informative communications with the actual owners/designers of products (Resolution audio, Aerial acoustics, PS Audio, Audience, Acoustic Zen, Wyred4Sound etc.). Each time I ended up buying a product from their lineups. Not once was I told to talk to my dealer.
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November 27, 2013, 07:23 PM #48
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
I agree that it is almost inexcusable. If that's how you are treated before you buy then if/when you have problems you don't have a chance.
I also know in business that sometimes things happen that are just not the way it normally is.
With all of the positive things I've heard I'm hoping this is the case. But your experience is absolutely in the back of my mind just like all the positive info I've heard.
Thanks for sharing.Jock
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November 28, 2013, 03:02 PM #49
Re: Accuphase P-6100 amp
Mark, why would you go from 600 WPC to 110 WPC? Was your Classe monos way over kill in power for your Salon 2s?
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November 28, 2013, 04:14 PM #50
Accuphase P-6100 amp
Quality not quantity comes to mind. High current enough for difficult loads. But ultimately sonic improvements with more than enough power for the current room size. Big watts per channel( IE class D amps) does not always translate to better. IMHO
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Peter, That fixed it. Thank you.
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