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March 24, 2020, 12:46 AM #1
The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
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Has anyone heard of this or tried this method? It looks a little involved but seems to provide benefit.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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March 24, 2020, 06:46 AM #2
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
Heard of it, but haven’t been able to obtain enough info yet. Lurking on this thread....
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March 24, 2020, 08:56 AM #3
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Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
A solution in search of a problem and a poor solution at that. Real bad news for a digital cable. Might make some legacy and boutique components unhappy.
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March 24, 2020, 10:58 AM #4
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
I’m a little too lazy to even try this method.
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March 24, 2020, 11:50 AM #5
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March 24, 2020, 01:30 PM #6
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
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March 24, 2020, 01:43 PM #7
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
While doubling interconnects in parallel will halve their DC resistance, its effect on impedance (which combines DC resistance with the reactive components of capacitance and inductance) is more complicated. The reactive components of the cable's impedance will double when two cables are run in parallel, which can definitely affect their sonic performance and change it from what the designer intended. The result may be desirable in a given system while it may potentially cause damage in others due to instability into a particular load. I believe you'd be better off trying different types of cable designs independently rather than doubling them up as suggested in that article.
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March 24, 2020, 02:36 PM #8
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Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
Yep, the quadrupling of total cable capacitance can make some audiophile components unhappy.
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March 24, 2020, 05:30 PM #9
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
PartsConnexion will do all the hard work for you.
Jim Smith turned me on to this, albeit with XLRs. The first one they made for me is Duelund 20awg (DCA20GA), basically a back and forth run of wire between two Duelund gold male RCA's. No splitters/Y-cables necessary (So for a 1 m pair of RCA IC's you order 4m of hookup wire, two plugs, and, for a fee, they'll make the finished cable for you. You need more wire for an XLR IC.)
Then I sort of outsmarted myself and ordered a 4m run of Duelund Dual DCA16GA 2x16. I thought this was the back and forth run all in one tidy package, but I ended up with two runs of 2x16ga for each IC. I also decided to try the more spendy Duelund plastic-free connectors. Well, I connected the DAC to the VIVA integrated and nothing blowed up. In fact sounded pretty good.
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March 24, 2020, 06:03 PM #10
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
Thank you for the information. I’ve ordered from them before. Great company.
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NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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March 26, 2020, 07:33 PM #11
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
When I read this "That also is a “do at your own risk” activity; one mistake in crossing over a connection and you can blow up an amp". I said nope,
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March 26, 2020, 07:46 PM #12Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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March 27, 2020, 08:12 AM #13
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
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March 27, 2020, 10:32 AM #14
Re: The Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement
I figure, if the amp makers wanted me to do this it would be an option on the amp and noted in the manual. I just always walk the line of caution.
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