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    Re: Whatís your favorite ESL?

    Quad 63s w Gradient SW63

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    Re: Whatís your favorite ESL?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Whatís your favorite ESL speaker? Quad? KLH Model 9? Or a hybrid ESL like ML or MurAudio? Other?

    Although planar magnetics are similar, Iím speaker purely of ESLís.

    For me, the Quad 63, 57 and 2912 are my faves.

    Iím definitely looking forward to hearing this new Anniversary 60 Quad ESL.




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    BTW , Best ESL loudspeakers i have ever heard were Acoustats and mirrored closely by Sound labs...


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    I've heard some good set ups with Martin Logan. I like Sanders.

    I only heard Quad once, I forget the model. It was at Axpona in the Mobile Fidelity room when they became the..... I think distributor.

    Anyway, they engaged me like no other ESL. Like I told a friend who was with me, I could criticize but for some reason I just want to sit and listen. The music played wasn't even that great, LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Thoughts on King Sound, Have you heard them ..?

    I've owned two pairs; earlier models of the King and Prince. Incredible resolution with the King. Really showed how deficient dome tweeters are. Unfortunately reliability issues hurt the earlier models. They may have since improved though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    I've owned two pairs; earlier models of the King and Prince. Incredible resolution with the King. Really showed how deficient dome tweeters are. Unfortunately reliability issues hurt the earlier models. They may have since improved though.
    Not quite fair to lump all non-electrostatic/planar drivers in to one basket as there are some really fine dome designs that compete quite well in the resolution department.
    Magico's beryllium /diamond driver comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    Not quite fair to lump all non-electrostatic/planar drivers in to one basket as there are some really fine dome designs that compete quite well in the resolution department.
    Magico's beryllium /diamond driver comes to mind.

    My experience has been that even the very best of dome tweeters do not come remotely close to the resolving abilities of well-engineered ESL’s or plasma tweeters for that matter either. I encourage you to audition for yourself. I find that extremely light ESL diaphragm’s have superb transient response and musical transparency and are capable of serving up music with spooky levels of realism. ESL’s are not for everyone though. The bass is observationally quite different to a cone woofer (and sometimes feels deficient vs. the later); they take up a fair amount of floor space and are demanding on amplifiers.
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    My experience has been that most ESL transducers sound like someone's scratching a chalk-board, not to mention the limited dispersion and higher power requirements.
    Resolution is one thing...Higher bandwidth and faster transient response at the expense of musicality and listen-ability is unacceptable,imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    My experience has been that most ESL transducers sound like someone's scratching a chalk-board, not to mention the limited dispersion and higher power requirements.
    Resolution is one thing...Higher bandwidth and faster transient response at the expense of musicality and listen-ability is unacceptable,imo
    Obviously, you haven't heard Sound Labs (at least not in a proper setting). Everything about them is the opposite of what you just wrote! Musicality and listen-ability is only one of their
    many strengths!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnHam View Post
    Obviously, you haven't heard Sound Labs (at least not in a proper setting). Everything about them is the opposite of what you just wrote! Musicality and listen-ability is only one of their
    many strengths!
    Fair enough. I would be open to listening again to what would be considered the latest in ESL design. I based my opinion on
    bad past experiences from 20-25 years ago I've had with Non-cone/dome drivers,especially the ones that were paired to conventional drivers in a hybrid design.
    I just think its wrong to throw out an entire type of driver in a sweeping illogical statement,especial one made by a representative of a certain brand.

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