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    Re: Is Rock & Roll Dead, Just no one called the time?

    yea lol, a true audiophile needs only 1 song.

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    Re: Is Rock & Roll Dead, Just no one called the time?

    Maybe you aren't familiar enough with Rock to get what I mean.

    I wasn't alive then but love 50's R&R, the next decade had R&R, whether Elvis or Stones, the 70's had Rock that carried the vibe like Bob Seber, Van Morrison. This type of Rock may have become arena Rock but you can say that about any decade, there were always concerts. The 80's got a bit strange but there were still some Rock, less in the 90's and I can't think of much that carries the same torch in the 2k's.

    Although I feel the main vein of R&R is dead, my music collection has always grown and still does. That's not the point. Like most of you I've found good music in other areas.

    As stated above, each decade has has someone to fill the R&R shoes up until about 2k. Most of you missed the point, I didn't say music was dead, I said Rock & Roll is dead. I can't think of any bands who picked up the torch.

    I can't remember which app for Tidal I was using but Rock is Rock/Indie now, it doesn't even have it's own genre heading.

    Each decade of Rock does have bands that brings something original to add. Maybe it could be argued that Rock isn't dead, it's just not recognizeable, like Country today. If someone was in a coma in the 80's and woke up today they wouldn't recognize Country on the radio dial.

    One big difference, Classic Rock is still played, where "classic" any other genre if played is rare.

    More evidence of death, most popular Rock bands have cover bands that tour and make money playing the other bands music and in many instances try to look like the band. Sure people do what it takes to make money but if Rock wasn't dead, if Rock still had working bands who picked up the torch we wouldn't need cover bands or the old bands touring in their 70's or promoters paying big money for bands to come out of retirement. Sometimes a band name tours and you are lucky one original member is still in the band.



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    Why not bemoan the loss of ‘60’s pop-rock, or ‘80’s alt/punk fusion? Or rock and roll, or rockabilly? It seems that you are merely noting that the music you came of age with is no longer relevant to today’s youth, something that happens every 10-15 years no matter what the musical genre (I don’t know if you are old enough to remember the complaints when Elvis, and later The Beatles, became popular; “real” music was going to be gone forever). OTOH, it’s easier than ever to discover good and interesting music in new styles, as Bud points out.
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    Re: Is Rock & Roll Dead, Just no one called the time?

    It's still alive, although probably not what it was vs. the rest of the music world in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    ... the 70's had Rock that carried the vibe like Bob Seber, Van Morrison. This type of Rock may have become arena Rock but you can say that about any decade, there were always concerts...
    In your mind, sure, and I suspect we all have our own categorization systems for musical genres. As I said, though, what you describe is "arena rock", a specific sub-genre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    Maybe you aren't familiar enough with Rock to get what I mean.

    I wasn't alive then but love 50's R&R, the next decade had R&R, whether Elvis or Stones, the 70's had Rock that carried the vibe like Bob Seber, Van Morrison. This type of Rock may have become arena Rock but you can say that about any decade, there were always concerts. The 80's got a bit strange but there were still some Rock, less in the 90's and I can't think of much that carries the same torch in the 2k's.

    Although I feel the main vein of R&R is dead, my music collection has always grown and still does. That's not the point. Like most of you I've found good music in other areas.

    As stated above, each decade has has someone to fill the R&R shoes up until about 2k. Most of you missed the point, I didn't say music was dead, I said Rock & Roll is dead. I can't think of any bands who picked up the torch.

    I can't remember which app for Tidal I was using but Rock is Rock/Indie now, it doesn't even have it's own genre heading.

    Each decade of Rock does have bands that brings something original to add. Maybe it could be argued that Rock isn't dead, it's just not recognizeable, like Country today. If someone was in a coma in the 80's and woke up today they wouldn't recognize Country on the radio dial.

    One big difference, Classic Rock is still played, where "classic" any other genre if played is rare.

    More evidence of death, most popular Rock bands have cover bands that tour and make money playing the other bands music and in many instances try to look like the band. Sure people do what it takes to make money but if Rock wasn't dead, if Rock still had working bands who picked up the torch we wouldn't need cover bands or the old bands touring in their 70's or promoters paying big money for bands to come out of retirement. Sometimes a band name tours and you are lucky one original member is still in the band.
    And perhaps to your point are the legacy bands still wanting/having to tour - if that did not occur, we may be further along distancing ourselves from passing the torch.

    I do agree music is played for its contribution of the time in our lives and I am one who has not tired myself of playing Hendrix, Stones, Beatles as our systems make it sound even better than it did before despite a lot of those bands not recording well.

    Perhaps we are all getting older, and cannot over power the influence of classic rock to the newer music of today - my son and daughter in there late teens have zero interest at least at this point in their lives despite my efforts to reveal the music I grew up with.


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    Re: Is Rock & Roll Dead, Just no one called the time?

    My new truck has a SeriusXM subscription, and I found the “BB King Bluesvill” channel, which I listen to frequently. There I have found a lot contemporary Blues artists that bring me closest to the rock & roll I grew up with. For a Blues guy that really rocks, listen to Joe Bonimassa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    My new truck has a SeriusXM subscription, and I found the “BB King Bluesvill” channel, which I listen to frequently. There I have found a lot contemporary Blues artists that bring me closest to the rock & roll I grew up with. For a Blues guy that really rocks, listen to Joe Bonimassa.
    I too have SiriusXM in my vehicle which I primarily use to listen to jazz because it's the only genre that sounds halfway like music over the crappy fidelity that is Satellite Radio. Funny that we have made so much progress in SQ over the years, but we went backwards in our vehicles once digital FM and Satellite Radio reared their ugly heads.

    SiriusXM also has a Classic Vinyl channel which plays classic rock. They claim they are playing vinyl, but the vinyl has been digitized and compressed and it sounds just as crappy as the regular channels on SiriusXM.
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    Mep, I agree wrt sound quality on satellite radio. Serius seems to think bass should be boosted on just about everything, making the classic vinyl channel unlistenable in my truck. I prefer broadcast radio when possible but hate the constant commercials. Local jazz and classical stations sound pretty good, but most satellite channels — argh!
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    Re: Is Rock & Roll Dead, Just no one called the time?

    Apparently there are several levels of Sirius XM WRT sound quality, depending on the type of receiver your car has. So it can sound really crappy (64k) or only somewhat crappy (192k).

    Blues rock is indeed a genre with a variety of current artists. Besides Joe Bonamassa, there is Gary Clark, Jr, Sonny Landreth, Tedeschi-Trucks Band, Robert Randolph and the Family Band, Gov't Mule and of course some old hangers on such as Buddy Guy, Jeff Beck, etc.
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    Re: Is Rock & Roll Dead, Just no one called the time?

    What's the last few albums you've bought? It's Metal or Hard Rock I gravitate to, myself. I do like Prog and keep an eye out for something good. Chon is one of the more recent bands new to me.

    I also like Tarja's new album. Former singer for Nightwish. Soen, Locust

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Good question. I guess Rock just got old, and few are interested in it. However, I know my tastes have changed. I’m 70, and have really developed a taste for Metal a few years ago. Now I usually buy 2 albums every week from HDTracks.
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