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**Sean** · January 15, 2020, 11:07 AM

It’s good to hear you’re making progress getting everything set up, Tom.

When you have time, don’t forget we all love pictures! Even just well-lit, steady-handed smart phone ones.

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**Calvin** · January 15, 2020, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Sean

It’s good to hear you’re making process getting everything set up, Tom.

When you have time, don’t forget we all love pictures! Even just well-lit, steady-handed smart phone ones.

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**bluegrassphile** · January 15, 2020, 09:12 PM

Still having difficulty getting the Roon Nucleus (Remote) to recognize the updated download. Our IP tech is coming to our house tomorrow to see if he can help. We just replaced our router about 6 weeks ago and he thinks that might be the issue. We'll see. I'll call Mike and have him talk to the tech. I'm sure they can solve it. Might have to force the download. Man, I can't wait to to hear some music on this system!!

**Randy Myers** · January 15, 2020, 09:24 PM

One thing to check is make sure your Roon Core (Nucleus) and Roon Remote unit (Android, iPad, Windows Tablet, Computer) are on the same wireless band. Most routers have multiple bands (2.4, 5) and I have found sometimes they don't interact if they are not on the same band.

**Jack** · January 15, 2020, 09:25 PM

Tom

Re-booting the router didn't do anything?

**bluegrassphile** · January 16, 2020, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Jack

Tom

Re-booting the router didn't do anything?

No.

**Mike** · January 16, 2020, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Randy Myers

One thing to check is make sure your Roon Core (Nucleus) and Roon Remote unit (Android, iPad, Windows Tablet, Computer) are on the same wireless band. Most routers have multiple bands (2.4, 5) and I have found sometimes they don't interact if they are not on the same band.

It is.

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**bluegrassphile** · January 16, 2020, 11:28 AM

And the Grammy for patience goes to...drum roll......................anticipation builds..................and the winner is...........................Mike Bovairn of Suncoast Audio!!!!! Things don't go well with DACs when the router's wired and wireless networks are not on the same band. Did I say that right Mike? Anyway, I'm sure the IP tech will get the network/router issues sorted out. I can just hear the music already!

**MikeCh** · January 16, 2020, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by bluegrassphile

Still having difficulty getting the Roon Nucleus (Remote) to recognize the updated download

Tom, what does this mean?

Are you saying that the Roon Nucleus itself is getting a network connection but a software or code update is not recognized by the Roon device?

Or...

Is the Roon device itself not recognized on your network at all?

**bluegrassphile** · January 16, 2020, 11:41 AM

Mike B. might have to help me with this, but...the router's wired and wireless bands (Is that the correct term?) are not on the same network. It's a network/router issue and not a DAC issue. Hope that makes sense.

**Randy Myers** · January 16, 2020, 11:53 AM

That sounds about what I was thinking. Routers now a day have multiple networks and the various devices have to be on the same network to speak to each other. Of course there certainly could be other issues

.

Networking is so much fun.... NOT.

**bluegrassphile** · January 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

Randy, I think you described it perfectly. Should be fairly simple to remedy when the tech gets here. Just purchased the router from the IP about 6 weeks ago. It has worked well until I added a DAC. As you stated, the router wants to install it on another network. There are probably separate networks for wireless and wired.

**Randy Myers** · January 16, 2020, 12:39 PM

They both should be able to be put on the same network

....

**Shadowfax** · January 16, 2020, 01:05 PM

You should be able to go into the admin UI and setup what IPs can connect to what Network

**MikeCh** · January 16, 2020, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by bluegrassphile

There are probably separate networks for wireless and wired.

There could also be differences in the VLANs used. If that's the case you'll just need to make sure that all your gear is on the same VLAN together.

Hope you get to hear music soon!

**MikeCh** · January 16, 2020, 06:53 PM

Music yet Tom?

**Calvin** · January 16, 2020, 07:30 PM

Me hungry. Me want to see blue dials.

**bluegrassphile** · January 17, 2020, 02:53 PM

Oh, guys............what can I say that hasn’t already been said about each of these components? They’re all simply outstanding. There are no superlatives that haven’t already been expressed by many others regarding the Pass Labs INT 250, MSB Discrete (dual power supply), Harbeth Super HL 5+ 40th Anniversary speakers, and Roon Nucleus. I’ll try and minimize the cliched superlatives and just give you, as much as possible, an honest description and review of this system.

Predictably, I have no choice but to give it extremely high props. I mean, this system simply and truly is what it is. It’s everything I was hoping for and far beyond that. I guess if you forced me to use words to describe it, I’d have to include the word “pure”. And whatever words you would use to describe this kind of purity and “real” sound. Meaning it sounds like the musicians are standing and playing right in front of you. Yet there is a huge, deep, sound stage. I know that the word “accurate “ has likely been overused over the last 50 years, but that word is very, well.....accurate! As I write this, the live Alison Krause and Union Station album is playing on my new system in the background. The sound quality is beyond outstanding. Especially for a live performance. And the new Blue Highway album (Somewhere Far Away) that I played yesterday...absolutely superb.

Another descriptor I would use for the sound of this system is “smooth”. Buttery smooth. It has everything I want and nothing I don’t. Just the right amount of beautifully tight, big, big, low end, midrange, and perfect top end.

It’s very straight ahead simple. The INT 250 is as simple as you get. Just an amp and preamp in one box. That’s it. Nothing else. But superbly designed and crafted.

And, then there’s the dual power supply MSB Discrete. It adds a subtle robustness to the sound. It makes an already superb sounding amp sound even better. Not sure how. It just does. Keep in mind I’m not a “tech-y” person. I just attempt to describe things as I hear them. However, I’m a long time musician with a very sharp set of ears. I know when I hear something that’s really good. And this system is really, really, good.

It’s very difficult to have a great sounding audio system without good sounding speakers. And, IMHO, Harbeth speakers are about as good as it gets. I specifically purchased the Harbeth Super HL 5+ 40th Anniversary for their super tweeter and modded crossover. I’ll use the same descriptors for the Harbeths as the ones I used to describe the Pass INT 250 integrated amp and MSB DAC and let it go at that. My ears LOVE Harbeth speakers, period. Don’t have anything else to say about them other than that. And the system synergy...simply outstanding.

Next, the Roon Nucleus. Really fun. What else can I say? It’s obviously extremely useful for managing my very large ripped CD collection and streamed music, my only sources.

It’s been a dream come true to have a system like this. And it’s been a long, long, wait. But I wouldn’t have changed a thing. As I stated above, this system has everything I want and nothing I don’t. And the system isn’t even broken in yet. Wonderful times ahead.

I’d like to give Mike Bovaird of Suncoast Audio one more nod of appreciation. The man has the patience of Job. I’d not been able to deal with the network issues, assemble, and set up this system without him. Thank you once again, buddy. I’ll post this then attempt to get some pics. Stand by...

**MikeCh** · January 17, 2020, 03:04 PM

BRAVO! Tom,

It's so nice to see a job well done and with the satisfaction that it is bringing you.

Congratulations on assembling a fine audio system that is sure to bring a smile to your face every time you listen!!

Mike

**joeinid** · January 17, 2020, 03:07 PM

Congratulations Tom!

Well done!

**Randy Myers** · January 17, 2020, 03:29 PM

That is awesome Tom. I am so happy that it has all worked out. The few bumps along the road only made the end result that much sweeter! Enjoy and yes, we want pictures!!!

**Calvin** · January 17, 2020, 03:48 PM

Congrats Tom. Glad she's going. And guess what - as you know it's not even burned in yet - and YES, YES, YES, it does get even better. You've put together an amazing system. Congrats again.

**Shadowfax** · January 17, 2020, 04:01 PM

Congrats!

PICS

**MPW** · January 17, 2020, 05:20 PM

Congrats Tom! Now time to relax and enjoy the music.

**bluegrassphile** · January 17, 2020, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by MikeCh

BRAVO! Tom,

It's so nice to see a job well done and with the satisfaction that it is bringing you.

Congratulations on assembling a fine audio system that is sure to bring a smile to your face every time you listen!!

Mike

Thank you so much, Mike. Yes, I’m anticipating many hundreds of hours of enjoyment.

**bluegrassphile** · January 17, 2020, 05:49 PM

Here are some pics of my system and listening room. Oops! I guess not. Give me a couple minutes/hours, LOL.

You’ll notice some mild room treatment with the acoustic panels on stands and on the walls of the music and recording area. The hanging sheets serve a dual purpose...they hold heat from the stove and they help with acoustics.

**bluegrassphile** · January 17, 2020, 05:58 PM

I have a question...How do you maximize the "typewriter"? When I was typing a post I accidentally touched something and it minimized the typewriter. How do I maximize it?

**Calvin** · January 17, 2020, 06:12 PM

Hi,

As far as the pics

(1) select third icon from the last (square with curved sides)
(2) pop up window appears
(3) choose from "computer" or "URL" (in top area)

Computer file

(4) for computer file select choose file (your photo)
(5) under that is "upload file" - select it

URL

(4) enter URL address
(5) go to bottom and select "ok"

I’m in the process of having numerous eye operations so my font on my iPad is supersized and the typewriter takes up half the screen. On my iPad I go to “settings” and then “Display and Brightness” and go down to “Text Size” and drag the bar to your desired size. Depending on the type of iPad though this may vary - it does on my wife's ...

**Kuoppis** · January 17, 2020, 06:34 PM

Thanks for sharing the pictures, Tom. And again, congrats.

A very nice system you have put together, Pass and Harbeth is a symbiotic combination. I’m sure it was worth the wait.

Many hours of listening pleasure with your new system!

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**Calvin** · January 17, 2020, 06:39 PM

Thanks for the pictures. Beautiful!!! Congrats again.

**bluegrassphile** · January 17, 2020, 06:48 PM

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not sure why the pics on my PC are not correctly oriented. They're perfectly oriented on my iPad????

**Mike** · January 17, 2020, 06:49 PM

Tom - congratulations. Glad we were able to work through all the networking issues. Enjoy your wonderful system.

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**joeinid** · January 17, 2020, 06:59 PM

Excellent Tom!

So happy for you and your beautiful wife.

It’s an awesome feeling getting it all setup and working. Let the music take you away.

Mike,

Thank you for being so patient and helpful with Tom. I know how much you wanted him up, running and enjoying the music. Superb service above and beyond.

**bluegrassphile** · January 17, 2020, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Calvin

Hi,

As far as the pics

(1) select third icon from the last (square with curved sides)
(2) pop up window appears
(3) choose from "computer" or "URL" (in top area)

Computer file

(4) for computer file select choose file (your photo)
(5) under that is "upload file" - select it

URL

(4) enter URL address
(5) go to bottom and select "ok"

I’m in the process of having numerous eye operations so my font on my iPad is supersized and the typewriter takes up half the screen. On my iPad I go to “settings” and then “Display and Brightness” and go down to “Text Size” and drag the bar to your desired size. Depending on the type of iPad though this may vary - it does on my wife's ...

Thank you, Joe.

**Randy Myers** · January 18, 2020, 09:50 AM

The system looks fantastic Tom (even though I had to stand on my head to view a couple

).....

Congratulations and enjoy the break-in. The system will only continue to improve!

**bluegrassphile** · January 18, 2020, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Randy Myers

The system looks fantastic Tom (even though I had to stand on my head to view a couple

).....

Congratulations and enjoy the break-in. The system will only continue to improve!

Ha!! I try not to make things too easy for people, LOL. You know, the weird thing is the pics on my iPad are oriented just fine. It's only on my PC that the pics are disoriented. Strange!

**Sean** · January 18, 2020, 12:13 PM

Looking good, Tom. Now, sit back and enjoy the tunes.

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**bluegrassphile** · January 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

Thanks for the kind words, Sean. It's been so long since I had any kind of high end audio (late '70s). I've really missed it.

This is such a sweet sounding system. I had totally forgotten how good a truly good system sounds. Truth be told, I'd probably been just as satisfied with any number of systems. But this is the one I picked for me. Good job, "Me". Ha, ha!

**Sean** · January 18, 2020, 01:08 PM

Tom, I’m glad to hear your new gear is bringing joy to your home already.

How true; I often think how there’s always a variety of system configurations that will more than get us where we need or want to be. But that shouldn’t necessarily take away from the process and joy of making it our own.

Originally Posted by bluegrassphile

Thanks for the kind words, Sean. It's been so long since I had any kind of high end audio (late '70s). I've really missed it.

This is such a sweet sounding system. I had totally forgotten how good a truly good system sounds. Truth be told, I'd probably been just as satisfied with any number of systems. But this is the one I picked for me. Good job, "Me". Ha, ha!

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**bluegrassphile** · January 18, 2020, 01:24 PM

Ya know, after having a chance to check it out for myself, IMHO, the heat issue with Pass and similarly designed (class A/AB SS amps) and constructed amps is waaaaaayyyyyyyy overstated. Maybe it's because I'm from Iowa, I don't know? Perhaps if I lived in Phoenix in the summer or maybe Needles or Death Valley or Tampa?? But when I lay my hand on the heat sinks of my INT 250 it reminds me of a warm summer day. I placed a room thermometer on the heat sink of my INT 250 and it registered 94 degrees. That's a nice day where there is low humidity. Maybe not so nice in Iowa with the humidity but we're not talking about humidity anyway. The operating temps of most well built class A/AB amps is certainly not a deal breaker to me. But, different strokes... Most tube amps put out far more heat. My tube guitar amps got hot. Not just warm. Hot! You couldn't even begin to place your hand on the tubes of most tube amps, especially when they're really cooking.

Anyway, I just thought I might set some things straight about the INT 250 and it's operating temp. I don't live in a state where summer temps often go north of 100 degrees. Iowa temps can certainly go above 100 degrees. But just perhaps a couple times each summer. Maybe if it did I'd feel differently. But I really doubt it. The operating temp of a Pass INT 250 for me is so low as to be irrelevant. It's just not a factor. But, like I said above...different strokes... My 2 cents.

**Penthouse-D** · January 18, 2020, 01:26 PM

Congrats Tom, Enjoy your system in good health. Mike gave you wonderful guidance. I seems you love it. Great!, because we're just not ready for the upgrade process... lol

**bluegrassphile** · January 18, 2020, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Penthouse-D

Congrats Tom, Enjoy your system in good health. Mike gave you wonderful guidance. I seems you love it. Great!, because we're just not ready for the upgrade process... lol

Thank you so much. Ha, I'm not ready for that either!

**brad225** · January 18, 2020, 05:14 PM

Good to hear everything got worked out and you are happy with your choices.

The picture thing is annoying. About 60% of the time the same thing happens to me.

How does Mrs Bluegrassphile like the new sound?

**bluegrassphile** · January 18, 2020, 05:21 PM

She loves it! We're listening to a bluegrass group by the name of Blue Highway. My favorite BG group. Highly recommend them. The system sounds heavenly.

**Jack** · January 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

Tom

Have you tried this one. Released yesterday.

https://www.amazon.com/Headlight-Del...9399391&sr=8-3

**bluegrassphile** · January 19, 2020, 09:43 AM

Thanks, Jack. I'll definitely check that one out. Those girls are good.

**Ritmo** · January 19, 2020, 08:16 PM

Tom - Congratulations on your wonderful system. Glad you were able to fix the tech problems with the network configuration. Now, enjoy the music.

PS - A great story of gear selection, great customer support by your dealer and real anticipation. Gotta love it!

**RDSChicago** · January 19, 2020, 08:34 PM

Congrats Tom! Listen in good health. This entire thread demonstrates the consummate guidance and professionalism that Mike imparted to you!

**bluegrassphile** · January 19, 2020, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by RDSChicago

Congrats Tom! Listen in good health. This entire thread demonstrates the consummate guidance and professionalism that Mike imparted to you!

You got that right. Mike is a total pro. I highly recommend him and Suncoast Audio.

**joeinid** · January 19, 2020, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by RDSChicago

Congrats Tom! Listen in good health. This entire thread demonstrates the consummate guidance and professionalism that Mike imparted to you!

Amen!

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