Thread: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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December 27, 2019, 08:18 PM #1
Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
My wife’s 2010 SUV has over 200,000 miles on it and it’s starting to have some issues. I was researching these two SUV’s and wanted to see if anyone has some experience with either and which one you like best.
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December 27, 2019, 08:37 PM #2
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Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
What is it that went 200K? That’s pretty good.
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December 27, 2019, 08:48 PM #3
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
As far as reliability ratings the Honda Pilot is way ahead of the Atlas, with VW consistently being one of the lowest rated brands for quality. The Pilot is also a more comfortable car-like ride while the Atlas is more truck like in feel and handling. A couple of things I don't like about the Pilot are the armrests which are like those in a minivan with no console armrest, and there's no 360 view camera available. If a smaller two row SUV could be a possibility then the new Acura RDX is receiving rave reviews, it's like a significantly upgraded Honda CRV with a better platform, the 2.0 turbo engine from the top Accord, and their SH-AWD system which is excellent.
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December 27, 2019, 09:15 PM #4
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
I had a 2014 and 2016 Pilot and had some issues with it (some may have been the dealer too - so I wouldn't put it all on the manufacturer). This site may help - https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2019/HONDA/PILOT/SUV/AWD
I moved to Lexus. Dealer is closer and tons better on service. I've owned Honda products for a long time (2003 Acura MDX, 2007 and 2012 CRVs, and 2014 and 2016 Pilots) and IMO (and other ratings too e.g. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...es/2578463001/ or https://www.jdpower.com/cars/ratings/2019 or https://www.edmunds.com/suv/#midsize-3-row-suvs) they are still good but not as good as they were in the past.Main System - Lumin U2, Modwright LS36.5 DM Preamp, VTV Purifi 1ET-7040SA with tube buffer, EMM Labs DAC 2X (ver. 2), Torus RM-20, Thiel CS 3.7s, 2 Rel S/812 subs
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December 27, 2019, 09:35 PM #5
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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December 27, 2019, 09:37 PM #6
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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December 27, 2019, 09:38 PM #7
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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December 27, 2019, 09:47 PM #8
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Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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December 27, 2019, 10:10 PM #9
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Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
If you would like another MDX. 2021 debuts a new model.
So, 2020s might start getting incentives.
The negative of the current Gen MDX is the 9 speed ZF trans but, it has had software updates to refine it.
2020 MDX should drive better as a result.
The smaller new RDX has the new Honda built 10 speed auto.
I expect the 2021 MDX to have that same trans but, won't be out till spring/summer 2020.
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December 27, 2019, 10:20 PM #10
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The MDX is about the best choice. The VW and Honda drive like stiff trucks. We drove every SUV before getting the Santa Fe. Most do not have full power seats on passenger side if needed.
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December 27, 2019, 10:56 PM #11
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Mike the Toyota Highlander was redesigned for the 2020 model year.
Check out this video and see if it is worth looking into: https://youtu.be/eBRPXPKnQAc
How about the Hyundai Palisade or the Kia Telluride? They are both quite nice and great values not to mention the features and technology are much better than the VW or Honda Pilot.Buddy
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December 27, 2019, 11:25 PM #12
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I don't have a Pilot but I do have Honda's two row version of it, called the Passport. I've had it for about six months and haven't had a problem with it. I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat!
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December 28, 2019, 12:48 AM #13
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I would chose between the Acura MDX or Lexus RX350L (7 passenger ) for a family car.
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December 28, 2019, 02:06 AM #14
Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
Mike. Have you consider the Hyundai Palisade?
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December 28, 2019, 06:18 AM #15
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VW durability is very weak. My AWD wagon started to fall apart after 100,000 miles. My Honda has 280,000 miles without a major repair. Buy the Honda.
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December 28, 2019, 08:05 AM #16
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have had experience with both manufacturers but not those models -- based upon that, the honda pilot is the clear winner by a large margin, imo
also, the subaru ascent deserves to be in the mix. it has three rows with several seat configurations. subarus run forever in the harsh northeast climate.viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | air tight atc-5 + atm-300r | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + kanjiroba diy transport + roon rock
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December 28, 2019, 11:01 AM #17
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
Is the Toyota Highlander Hybrid worth consideration? My wife has poo-pooed anything Hyundai/Kia. She thinks they won’t be reliable long term.
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December 28, 2019, 11:07 AM #18
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Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
Also second the ascent recommendation. As you stated AWD is a gold standard and in the Northeast a great assest.
If you have Subaru dealers in Florida and need AWD; The Ascent deserves consideration and test drive IMHO.
Mike,
Since you live in FL; are you shopping AWD or Front Wheel drive versions of these respective vehicles?
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December 28, 2019, 11:08 AM #19
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December 28, 2019, 11:27 AM #20
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
My brother has one (Highlander hybrid) for a long time (and I haven't followed it but they seem to be well like - https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/...-market-259511). My Lexus 2020 RX450h is basically the big brother to it. With the Lexus (not sure about Toyota), they now give you a 10 year/150,000 mile warranty on the battery. I have mine about 2.5 months and getting about 30mpg. I read about it before it came out. The only surprise so far was a good one. USB devices can now read FLAC and WAV files up to 192kHz (plays them back at 48kHz I believe and can have two devices plugged in and each can do 3,000 folders and 9,999 files).
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December 28, 2019, 11:30 AM #21
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December 28, 2019, 12:38 PM #22
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December 28, 2019, 01:04 PM #23
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Mike, I'm in the consideration mode for a crossover / SUV next year as well. Here's what I've come up with ............
Toyota Highlander - while 'nice' all-around it has a poorly designed rear cargo area, floor slopes to the rear, totally stupid without a cargo net in place.
VW Atlas - one of the best new vehicle warranties (6 years / 72,000 miles), you'll probably need it
Honda Pilot / Acura MDX - superb all around vehicles and the 3.5 N/A is arguably one of the best V6's out there.
Honda Passport / Acura RDX - same basic platform except that the Acura has the turbo 4, there were issues with that motor up until last year and they are supposedly resolved. Interestingly the Honda utilizes the 3.5 N/A V6
Lexus - I can't get past that God awful ugly assed grill ..........
Chevy Traverse - my current company vehicle (2014 LTZ) 115,000 miles, zero issues, comfortable as can be
Porsche Cayenne - without question the way to buy Porsche is CPO
Toyota Four Runner - truck like, runs forever, excellent resale(like the Tacoma)Cheers ! …. Dave
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December 28, 2019, 02:11 PM #24
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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December 28, 2019, 02:32 PM #25
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Cheers ! …. Dave
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December 28, 2019, 03:27 PM #28
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Good vehicles , warranty claims can be a big pita, the Kia telluride is a good deal, So is the Hyundai equivalent Atlas best all of them, but the VW will kill you with little pita stuff so out of warranty not recommended , yet they will do the 10/200K no issue..
IMO- Toyota/ Lexus if 5 yrs Hyundai /Atlas/Pilot ...
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December 28, 2019, 04:28 PM #32
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As I noted in my earlier post, Honda still makes nice cars, however, they are not what they used to be several years back (and I've had Honda products from 2003-2016). They just started having more problems (don't know why). It is reflective in vehicle dependability ratings - https://www.jdpower.com/business/pre...ility-studyvds
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December 28, 2019, 04:44 PM #33
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Lets get serious here. Get the one without class D amps.
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December 28, 2019, 04:55 PM #34
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Phil, they had known issues with their turbo 4 when it first came out and while Honda says that's behind them now. Some beg to differ. I'd suspect that has something to do with it.
Of interest on the JD Power recent survey and to Mike's inquiry on Hyundai, they appear to have gained quite a bit of ground in the reliability arena.Cheers ! …. Dave
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December 28, 2019, 04:58 PM #35
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Keeping the car that long - I would def look at the Lexus. It is just more comfortable over the toyota/VW/Honda. And over 10 years the extra cost up front of it, isn't very much for each month of enjoyment.
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December 28, 2019, 05:00 PM #36
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Besides - she has to put up with you. She deserves a nice car!
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December 28, 2019, 05:14 PM #37
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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December 28, 2019, 05:53 PM #38Jock
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December 28, 2019, 06:19 PM #39
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December 28, 2019, 11:09 PM #41
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
How about the Cadillac Xt5 /XT6 SUV’s .....they get excellent mpgs plus it will be in the same family as your Corvette! They ride nice and the majority are owned by the over 65 crowd.
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December 28, 2019, 11:17 PM #42
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
Bud
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December 29, 2019, 03:43 AM #43
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I'm on my second pilot. I recommend, reliability has been great, good GPS, ride and size is good for me, I do agree with the statement above; they are still good but not as good as they were in the past.
As far as the VW I owned a Passat I learned the hard way the idea there is some reliability or customer service is bunk in my book, I don't recommend.
Something you may want to try if you use the third row of seats a lot. Try third row out. Getting there and headroom.This might be an area the new design of the Pilot may suffer.
The other vehicle I'm looking at is the Lincoln.
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December 29, 2019, 08:52 AM #44
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
on the contrary, I’m sure 95% of new vehicles will go 10 years / 200k miles on the original engine and drivetrain, and very likely twice that. Don’t be put off by the fact that the other 5% is what you hear about.
ask a dealer service department (or even a specialty independent repair shop) what their experience is. There is a reason that they keep adding items onto the “routine” maintenance; they’d be broke if all they did was fix problems.Rob
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December 29, 2019, 09:50 AM #45
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I was talking to an independent who services European cars (I own a 16-year old BMW 3 Series) about personnel. He said that the local BMW dealer had let his two BMW Certified Master Mechanics go, but that this was not just a one-off. Said this practice has been prevalent in the industry across brands. This from a guy I know well (20 years) and trust.
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December 29, 2019, 09:57 AM #46
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Is the context of your statement that cars are indeed more reliable than before? If so, I agree and right vehicle will certainly last 10 years and 200k easy. As long as its properly maintained etc.
Sure, there are exceptions to the rule but, in general modern cars will last provided you take care of them.
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December 29, 2019, 10:52 AM #47
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
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December 29, 2019, 10:57 AM #48
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My primary concern about the reliability of the newer models is with the rush to 4-cylinder turbo charged engine technology in place of naturally aspirated 6s. Sure, they get better gas mileage, but the associated heat, stress, and transmission complexity are going to take a toll.
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December 29, 2019, 02:47 PM #49
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
I'm not surprised they're laying off mechanics. 77% of BMWs are leased for 2-3 years and few go back into circulation as CPOs. Most are auctioned off by finance cos. at places like Manheim in So California where they're sold to buyers outside the US, mostly Asian and Middle Eastern countries. A few of my clients are in this business and ship hundreds of used cars a month (mostly European, Lexus/Infinity) out of the Port of LA.
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December 29, 2019, 05:09 PM #50
Re: Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas
Rob
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