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    Re: Avalon Acoustics - Are they still relevant/competitive ?

    Yes, they absolutely are.

    I heard the Avalon Saga's at the HK hifi show in 2017 and 2018. They were the best sound of any system or speaker at the show.
    Give me these over a Wilson Alexx or Magico M6 if you had the room for the speakers to breath.

    Bass depth to die for, a coherence and ease of listening that was awesome. This was with a Project Signature 12 front end - It would only get better with a better source. build quality was to die for.



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    Re: Avalon Acoustics - Are they still relevant/competitive ?

    Avalons have never been made of wood. They have always been made from MDF - like 99% of speakers.

    IMO there are several problems with the brand.

    1. Too long product life cycles. There are products in their lineup that are 15+ years old. That is too long. There is 'long' lifecycle and 'too long' - Avalon is the latter.

    2. Cost. They simply cost too much. There is the saying that the second hand market verifies the real value of the product. Avalons commonly trade at 25% of MSRP.

    3. Various quality problems throughout the years. Many Avalon speakers suffered veneer quality problems (I have personally seen two Isis pairs that started showing serious veneer quality issues in their 3rd or 4th year of ownership - that is 2 out of 3 (!) pairs I have seen; talk about 66% failure rate !). Then there has been that infameous 'black goo dropping from my speaker via the bass reflex port' problem, which was the rubber / dampening compound used deteriorating and turning into liquid and dripping from a speaker.

    That is too bad IMO, as I used to have the Avalon Eidolon Vision back in 2005 and though they were sounding great (when driven by tube amps).
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    Re: Avalon Acoustics - Are they still relevant/competitive ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Avalons have never been made of wood. They have always been made from MDF - like 99% of speakers.

    IMO there are several problems with the brand.

    1. Too long product life cycles. There are products in their lineup that are 15+ years old. That is too long. There is 'long' lifecycle and 'too long' - Avalon is the latter.

    2. Cost. They simply cost too much. There is the saying that the second hand market verifies the real value of the product. Avalons commonly trade at 25% of MSRP.

    3. Various quality problems throughout the years. Many Avalon speakers suffered veneer quality problems (I have personally seen two Isis pairs that started showing serious veneer quality issues in their 3rd or 4th year of ownership - that is 2 out of 3 (!) pairs I have seen; talk about 66% failure rate !). Then there has been that infameous 'black goo dropping from my speaker via the bass reflex port' problem, which was the rubber / dampening compound used deteriorating and turning into liquid and dripping from a speaker.

    That is too bad IMO, as I used to have the Avalon Eidolon Vision back in 2005 and though they were sounding great (when driven by tube amps).

    Point 2 is very important to me at least. Regarding the trade in or used market. Very hard to sell a product that nobody wants.

    My curiosity is of this new line called their Precision Monitor series.

    Specially, I heard Keith O. Johnson of Reference Recordings fame amongst others in the industry.

    Has had a hand in some design of them as well as the Avalon Aurora (new speaker).


    But, in the states; not much chatter about Avalon even though they are a domestic brand.

    They seem more popular in Asia; as of one of the members mentioned above.

 

 
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