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    Re: Avalon Acoustics - Are they still relevant/competitive ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Be Afraid....be very afraid !
    Ah that Wilson Focal tweeter

    I didn't want the thread to turn into another materials war on speaker design.

    I guess as AJ stated I can't discount the product because it uses wood over aluminum.

    Likewise, I remember years ago hearing a Wilson for the first and it was with that metal tweeter.

    I remember leaving the demo and saying to myself what the hell do people see this in this brand, why does it cost so much etc? How can these speakers get all this praise world wide etc. I don't get it.

    I chalked it up to crappy drivers in a really inert cabinet.

    So, again Audio is the some of all parts.

    I'll give a modern Avalon a listen again ; It won't hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    I'll give a modern Avalon a listen again ; It won't hurt
    Unless you fell on top of one. That might hurt!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Ah that Wilson Focal tweeter

    I didn't want the thread to turn into another materials war on speaker design.

    I guess as AJ stated I can't discount the product because it uses wood over aluminum.

    Likewise, I remember years ago hearing a Wilson for the first and it was with that metal tweeter.

    I remember leaving the demo and saying to myself what the hell do people see this in this brand, why does it cost so much etc? How can these speakers get all this praise world wide etc. I don't get it.

    I chalked it up to crappy drivers in a really inert cabinet.

    So, again Audio is the some of all parts.

    I'll give a modern Avalon a listen again ; It won't hurt
    Pointing out again, that was joke on my part....AJ's last post with Tesseracts is hilarious! Definitely don't want to land on that speaker!

    All kidding aside a friend in Atlanta has the Isis and loves them....another friend in NJ who had Isis for a few years and loved them upgraded
    to the Avalon Saga (first North American customer to receive pair); he's driving them with the top LAMM mono-blocks and told me they are
    fantastic. They however as noted, have a lot more competition nowadays in their price ranges so it's really up to buyers to balance budget,
    listening tastes, etc...and find the product that is best for them regardless what materials are involved.

    As an aside, wood speakers: add Volti Audio to the list,...another manufacturer who knows how to work with wood.

    Agree that a great speaker is about the sum of its parts and quality of design, construction,...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I remember this same conversation around paper drivers Vs new materials.

    Thank God no one is longing for the days of metal dome tweeters!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Wasn’t the late Charlie Hansen of Ayre-fame one of the founders?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Ah that Wilson Focal tweeter

    I didn't want the thread to turn into another materials war on speaker design.

    I guess as AJ stated I can't discount the product because it uses wood over aluminum.

    Likewise, I remember years ago hearing a Wilson for the first and it was with that metal tweeter.

    I remember leaving the demo and saying to myself what the hell do people see this in this brand, why does it cost so much etc? How can these speakers get all this praise world wide etc. I don't get it.

    I chalked it up to crappy drivers in a really inert cabinet.
    Right there with ya, on that one! I remember my local B&M dealer had a large room at a local audio show some years ago and had Alexandria X-2s with that inverted dome Focal tweeter set up with Spectral gear. Yeesh!!! Drove me out of the room in less than 5 minutes.

    I literally went across the hall to the MBL room, which was like a breath of fresh air. Ahh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Agree that a great speaker is about the sum of its parts and quality of design, construction,...
    Then, there's um...Harbeth.

    Yours truly's 30.2s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Then, there's um...Harbeth.

    Yours truly's 30.2s...

    Beautiful setup...love all the CJ gear too!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Beautiful setup...love all the CJ gear too!!!
    Thanks, Mark. I love the C-J gear, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Then, there's um...Harbeth.

    Yours truly's 30.2s...

    Love my 30.2 Anniversaries in the summerhouse!




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