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    Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    I am trying to replace a 20+ year old Bose amplifier but I noticed that the six in-wall volume controls are NOT in series with their associated speakers. The controllers are wired solely to the amplifier (to slots labelled "Room #X Volume Control").

    I am hoping to avoid re-wiring, but I can't find an amplifier on the market that allows for this configuration. Does anyone know if such an amplifier exist today?

    Thank you for your time.
    Albert :-)

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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    Welcome Albert.
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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    Thanks Joe, but the amps you listed don't appear to allow for a "stand-alone" volume controller connection.

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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    That’s my signature, amps that I own. I was not recommending anything yet. I don’t understand what you are using.

    I’m hoping someone else knows.



    Quote Originally Posted by Flood013 View Post
    Thanks Joe, but the amps you listed don't appear to allow for a "stand-alone" volume controller connection.
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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    That’s my signature, amps that I own. I was not recommending anything yet. I don’t understand what you are using.

    I’m hoping someone else knows.
    Roger that Joe. It's a Bose wall mounted amp that was installed in 1996, so I'm fealful this "configuration" is now obsolete.

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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    There might be commercial alternatives that will work. They aren’t expensive but might require a little effort.

    https://www.htd.com/Products/amplifi...caAvsVEALw_wcB
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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    Try Niles as they have been in the whole house integration business a long time. If that doesn't work out you may have to call on of the local to you installers and see what they use and recommend.

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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    Thanks Jack, I'll check it out.

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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    You may have to find one of the local installers whose been around long enough to remember if there was anything unique about the wiring of those Bose systems and what if anything could be a drop-in replacement. If they are anything like their branded car installations then the wiring schemes will not follow standard conventions.
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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    Yeah, I'm coming to the conclusion that if I want to replace the amp and continue to use the in-wall volume controls, so re-wiring will be necessary :-(

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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    Was their attempt to force you stay a part of their "family."
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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    What kind of connection do the external volume controls use? Bose still has products for that type of install listed on the Bose pro audio web site, and there's also stuff like this C2G Compact Amplifier with External Volume Control that works the way you described but uses what looks like an RJ45 connection.
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    Re: Replacing Amp - Where In-Wall Volume Controls are NOT Wired to Speakers

    Thanks Neko, I'll take another stroll thru the Bose products :-)

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