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Thread: Accuphase E-800
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January 11, 2020, 12:19 PM #51
Re: Accuphase E-800
Nope, not me! Although Ive done more than 25mph over!
Also..My beard (if I had one) would be way too gray!Accuphase A-75, C-3850, DP-750, T-1200, C-37, P-530 / Magico S7, Mcoat Red w/Mpod / LessLoss C-MARC Entropic cables (Spk. IC's PC's) / Clearaudio Innovation Wood, 9" Universal arm ,VTA adj. Outer Limit platter ring, Statement clamp / SteinMusic PI Carbon Signature Mat /My Sonic Lab Ultra Eminent EX MC cart./ Clearaudio 24v Battery PSU / Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth / B]Onyx Plus[/B] Sirius XM Sat Radio / Synergistic Research Galileo PowerCell SX ,Active Ground Block SE ,Black Box ,Acoustic ART, Atmosphere Infinity ,UEF panels /Stillpoints Apeture II panels /Furutech GTX-D NCF duplex outlets, NFC Booster-Braces/ 20a dedicated lines / SteinMusic H2 Harmonizers / Adona Eris II 5C racks / Symposium Acoustics Svelt Shelves /HRS Damping plates / KLAudio Ultrasonic RCM / Clearaudio Smart Matrix Pro. RCM /Kemp Electroniks SR plugs,/ Akiko Audio Corelli PLC,Tuning Sticks/ LessLoss Firewall 640X, Blackbody v.2, BlackGround Power Base 10X, Blackground Speaker Base 8X, Firewall for speakers
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January 11, 2020, 12:20 PM #52My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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January 11, 2020, 01:02 PM #53
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Not to beat the dead horse again, but I always wonder if Luxman can sell products outside of Japan with similar prices in Japan, why can’t Accuphase? It’s a shame really as Accuphase makes superb gear.
Also, it’s quite rare to see Accuphase and Magico together. I’m very intrigued about the sound Gene is getting from his S7’s. Very nice system BTW, Gene.
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January 12, 2020, 02:58 PM #54
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January 12, 2020, 09:17 PM #55
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I still have a soft spot for Accuphase.
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January 12, 2020, 11:19 PM #56
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I agree that even though I probably paid more than was necessary, the tremendous enjoyment I get from Accuphase more than makes up for the mark-up.
Whats one supposed to do? I have to pay what they say it costs and i'm not prepared to go though all the potential hassle of importing 110v models from Japan
and probably degrade the sound with a step-up transformer and loose all warranty coverage.
I'll swallow hard,hold my nose and pay because it's been ( and probably will continue to be) more than worth it.Accuphase A-75, C-3850, DP-750, T-1200, C-37, P-530 / Magico S7, Mcoat Red w/Mpod / LessLoss C-MARC Entropic cables (Spk. IC's PC's) / Clearaudio Innovation Wood, 9" Universal arm ,VTA adj. Outer Limit platter ring, Statement clamp / SteinMusic PI Carbon Signature Mat /My Sonic Lab Ultra Eminent EX MC cart./ Clearaudio 24v Battery PSU / Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth / B]Onyx Plus[/B] Sirius XM Sat Radio / Synergistic Research Galileo PowerCell SX ,Active Ground Block SE ,Black Box ,Acoustic ART, Atmosphere Infinity ,UEF panels /Stillpoints Apeture II panels /Furutech GTX-D NCF duplex outlets, NFC Booster-Braces/ 20a dedicated lines / SteinMusic H2 Harmonizers / Adona Eris II 5C racks / Symposium Acoustics Svelt Shelves /HRS Damping plates / KLAudio Ultrasonic RCM / Clearaudio Smart Matrix Pro. RCM /Kemp Electroniks SR plugs,/ Akiko Audio Corelli PLC,Tuning Sticks/ LessLoss Firewall 640X, Blackbody v.2, BlackGround Power Base 10X, Blackground Speaker Base 8X, Firewall for speakers
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January 12, 2020, 11:26 PM #57
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Re: Accuphase E-800
I am not referring to importing 110V units
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January 13, 2020, 03:48 AM #58
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January 13, 2020, 06:13 AM #59
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Re: Accuphase E-800
All Accuphase gear has multi-Voltage abilities included. No need for a Step-up Transformer. You just have to switch the jumper cables around inside.
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February 19, 2020, 03:37 PM #60
Re: Accuphase E-800
$21,000 is quite a bit of money for an integrated amp IMO. A certain dealer (who shall remain nameless) is already telling us to expect a price increase and most of this year's allocation of E-800s have been spoken for.
I guess if you are loyal to brand, price is not relevant. I've owned a couple of Accuphase intreated amps - nice gear, well built. I prefer Luxman and think it offers better value.AUDIO ROOM: CH Precision I1, Luxman D-10X, Luxman PD-171A, Stenheim Alumine Three, Shunyata Everest, Tellurium Q, Sitech cables and interconnects, CORE Audio Design racks and a whole host of other silly audiophile accessories!
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February 19, 2020, 03:46 PM #61
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For Half of that you can get one from Audio Cubes in NYC. For about 1/3 of that you can get it from Japan.
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February 19, 2020, 03:49 PM #62
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Re: Accuphase E-800
If I'm not mistaken, Luxman dropped prices on their top line gear about 25% when they went from an independent US distributor to company-owned US distribution several years ago. That said, I think I'm also hearing that Accuphase's US distributor may charge a higher markup than Accuphase distributors in other geos (?).
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February 19, 2020, 03:55 PM #63
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Correct GSOphile. The main factor is the US importer's approach to business.
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February 19, 2020, 07:07 PM #64
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February 19, 2020, 10:37 PM #65
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I honestly don’t know the details but if what mentioned is true, this US Accuphase distributor is solely responsible for preventing many interested parties to enjoy the Accuphase gears in the US.
I’m not sure what his or her calculation shows, in terms of comparison between less quantity with super high margin vs. more quantity with lower margin. But decision to go that route is an insult from consumer point of view.
Maybe, some of you will say to me that I have no idea what I’m talking about, which is true. But I’m waiting to be enlightened.
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February 19, 2020, 11:02 PM #66
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The details (pricing) are right on the internet for anybody to see. Here is the link to Audio Union in Japan https://translate.google.com/transla...p/&prev=search Just convert YEN to USD.
Here is the price on AUDIO CUBES in New York City ($10,400) https://audiocubes.com/collections/amplifiers?page=2Amps: First Watt SIT-3, Pass XA25, Valvet E2 SE, LTA ZOTL40, First Watt SIT-1 Mono's, ARC Ref75SE, Decware Zen TorII MK4, Line Magnetic 845 Premium, Raven Reflection MK2, Audio Hungary Qualiton X200, Kingko 101Pro, Audio Hungary Qualiton I50
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February 20, 2020, 01:26 AM #67
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This is the same Dealer that banned me for raising issue with the fact the Axiss ships all Accuphase gear by Ground Service, that is a slap in the face when paying this kind of money. Its also true that Accuphase NEVER made any power cables... they were all knockoffs, yet he was selling them proudly.
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February 20, 2020, 01:29 AM #68
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Another question is why Accuphase is okay with this?
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February 20, 2020, 10:53 AM #69
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Why should that dealer remain "nameless" considering we all know who it is (At least to those that are members here and also that "other" forum, of which there are quite a few) and although there has been mention of a sell-out, never a peep about a price increase. Not sure why you would have a price increase when it just came on the market.
Just to keep a perspective there are many examples of high-end integrated amps selling for far more than 21k. So,really no big deal here.Accuphase A-75, C-3850, DP-750, T-1200, C-37, P-530 / Magico S7, Mcoat Red w/Mpod / LessLoss C-MARC Entropic cables (Spk. IC's PC's) / Clearaudio Innovation Wood, 9" Universal arm ,VTA adj. Outer Limit platter ring, Statement clamp / SteinMusic PI Carbon Signature Mat /My Sonic Lab Ultra Eminent EX MC cart./ Clearaudio 24v Battery PSU / Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth / B]Onyx Plus[/B] Sirius XM Sat Radio / Synergistic Research Galileo PowerCell SX ,Active Ground Block SE ,Black Box ,Acoustic ART, Atmosphere Infinity ,UEF panels /Stillpoints Apeture II panels /Furutech GTX-D NCF duplex outlets, NFC Booster-Braces/ 20a dedicated lines / SteinMusic H2 Harmonizers / Adona Eris II 5C racks / Symposium Acoustics Svelt Shelves /HRS Damping plates / KLAudio Ultrasonic RCM / Clearaudio Smart Matrix Pro. RCM /Kemp Electroniks SR plugs,/ Akiko Audio Corelli PLC,Tuning Sticks/ LessLoss Firewall 640X, Blackbody v.2, BlackGround Power Base 10X, Blackground Speaker Base 8X, Firewall for speakers
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February 20, 2020, 12:02 PM #70
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I was told by said dealer yesterday that there WAS going to be a price increase. Just reporting the news!
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February 20, 2020, 01:04 PM #71
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I think the point being made is not about the absolute price or the expensiveness of it, but more than 2x price difference between geo’s. Other high end integrated amps that are priced $21k in North America are still probably approximately $21k in Europe or Asia. This one is not.
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February 20, 2020, 01:43 PM #72
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I'd much rather be discussing the excellent engineering, build and sound quality of the Accuphase, but that's probably not going to happen.
Way too many bellyaching, penny pinching audiophile's getting in the way.Accuphase A-75, C-3850, DP-750, T-1200, C-37, P-530 / Magico S7, Mcoat Red w/Mpod / LessLoss C-MARC Entropic cables (Spk. IC's PC's) / Clearaudio Innovation Wood, 9" Universal arm ,VTA adj. Outer Limit platter ring, Statement clamp / SteinMusic PI Carbon Signature Mat /My Sonic Lab Ultra Eminent EX MC cart./ Clearaudio 24v Battery PSU / Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth / B]Onyx Plus[/B] Sirius XM Sat Radio / Synergistic Research Galileo PowerCell SX ,Active Ground Block SE ,Black Box ,Acoustic ART, Atmosphere Infinity ,UEF panels /Stillpoints Apeture II panels /Furutech GTX-D NCF duplex outlets, NFC Booster-Braces/ 20a dedicated lines / SteinMusic H2 Harmonizers / Adona Eris II 5C racks / Symposium Acoustics Svelt Shelves /HRS Damping plates / KLAudio Ultrasonic RCM / Clearaudio Smart Matrix Pro. RCM /Kemp Electroniks SR plugs,/ Akiko Audio Corelli PLC,Tuning Sticks/ LessLoss Firewall 640X, Blackbody v.2, BlackGround Power Base 10X, Blackground Speaker Base 8X, Firewall for speakers
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February 20, 2020, 02:03 PM #73
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If you look at my posts, I don’t complain about high end price 99.9% of the time. This is really not about penny pinching.
If you can stomach >100% mark up (more like >150% really if you include the general 50% dealer margin of high end), all the more power to you. I wouldn’t be able to.
For example, I absolutely love my Gryphon Diablo 300, but I won’t buy it for $32,000 knowing it can be had for $16,000 in Denmark.
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February 20, 2020, 02:19 PM #74
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My Accuphase cost me exactly what my dealer (he's the one who will remain "nameless') here in the US said it would (less a generous discount). I could care less that some fellow in Japan got it for less. Good for them. That's what he pays there.
Now..can we get on to giving and hearing opinions about Accuphase sound quality...which is a very real thing to discuss and stop all the whining about pricing or do we continue to beat a very dead horse,imo. Again...probally not going to happen.
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February 20, 2020, 04:12 PM #75
Accuphase E-800
No one is preventing you from discussing Accuphase sound quality. You can continue ask/discuss/opine however you want. People who has knowledge of what you say will reply you.
If you don’t like pricing posts, just ignore them. No one is pointing a gun to the head asking your opinion. This is a public forum, not a family or friends whatsapp chat.
BTW I like Accuphase. Never owned any but few times I heard I think they sound great.
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February 20, 2020, 05:28 PM #76
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February 20, 2020, 05:45 PM #77
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lol, sorry.
accuphase was my nr1 brand when i was a boy. really dreamt about that stuff.
i did own the ps 12xx, didnt do anything so eventually i ve sold it.
that said, in switzerland it is a big brand and much more available than solution or ch precision, goldmund, nagra etc.
i know many people who owns accuphase and like it a lot. the piega people for example love it. it is a perfect combination.
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February 20, 2020, 06:29 PM #78
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Accuphase A-75, C-3850, DP-750, T-1200, C-37, P-530 / Magico S7, Mcoat Red w/Mpod / LessLoss C-MARC Entropic cables (Spk. IC's PC's) / Clearaudio Innovation Wood, 9" Universal arm ,VTA adj. Outer Limit platter ring, Statement clamp / SteinMusic PI Carbon Signature Mat /My Sonic Lab Ultra Eminent EX MC cart./ Clearaudio 24v Battery PSU / Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth / B]Onyx Plus[/B] Sirius XM Sat Radio / Synergistic Research Galileo PowerCell SX ,Active Ground Block SE ,Black Box ,Acoustic ART, Atmosphere Infinity ,UEF panels /Stillpoints Apeture II panels /Furutech GTX-D NCF duplex outlets, NFC Booster-Braces/ 20a dedicated lines / SteinMusic H2 Harmonizers / Adona Eris II 5C racks / Symposium Acoustics Svelt Shelves /HRS Damping plates / KLAudio Ultrasonic RCM / Clearaudio Smart Matrix Pro. RCM /Kemp Electroniks SR plugs,/ Akiko Audio Corelli PLC,Tuning Sticks/ LessLoss Firewall 640X, Blackbody v.2, BlackGround Power Base 10X, Blackground Speaker Base 8X, Firewall for speakers
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February 20, 2020, 06:36 PM #79
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February 20, 2020, 06:37 PM #80
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February 20, 2020, 06:41 PM #81
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From the FAQ Section of Audio Cubes
Are products carried by AudioCubes Japanese models (100V)? Will I be able to operate them?This question is often asked by customers so please please note the answer: YES.
All items requiring the use of electricity will come with a high-end matching Japan-made transformer, free with your order. There has been no report from our customers with sound degradation nor short-term/long-term issues affecting your equipment. Some products may be able to configured to operate in your local voltage. Please see the product page for availability and information.
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February 20, 2020, 07:20 PM #82
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February 20, 2020, 07:23 PM #83
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With all due respect that's completely inaccurate. The Grey Market models sell USED here in the USA for slightly less than what they cost Brand New in Japan. My friend in Jersey has dumped numerous ones on EBAY when new models comes out. Last one I remember him selling on EBAY was a E-600 and he got 4500 for it. Didn't take long to sell either. Believe that was slightly more than he paid for it in Japan. No step-up transformer needed.
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February 20, 2020, 07:28 PM #84
Re: Accuphase E-800
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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February 20, 2020, 07:52 PM #85
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Re: Accuphase E-800
Probably because they don't care or its simply not worth their time as its the US and Canadian Distributors issue. I would never buy a 100V unit... I guarantee it wont be factory sealed and who knows its history or whats been tinkered with it.
I really do believe their gear is engineered phenomenally well... they are as dead silent mechanically while turned on as any other piece of gear thats turned off. That is impressive, no transformer hum or buzz at the case or at the speakers. This takes effort and serious quality control. Would I buy any at the US pricing? NO... but I can certainly see why they sell.
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February 20, 2020, 07:54 PM #86
Re: Accuphase E-800
I absolutely love Accuphase
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February 20, 2020, 08:08 PM #87
Re: Accuphase E-800
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February 20, 2020, 08:10 PM #88
Re: Accuphase E-800
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February 20, 2020, 08:25 PM #89
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Yep that's true. The statement about the boxes not being sealed or tinkered with is ridiculous thou. Everything Audio Cubes sells is just like buying in Japan except your gonna pay a few grand more. Ive known many Accuphase owners...none have ever needed any service done on their gear to my knowledge. If one is going to gamble on a piece of Grey Market gear Accuphase is probably the safest bet.
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February 21, 2020, 12:30 AM #90
Accuphase E-800
^ Absolutely agree.
The way I look at it, using E-800 for an example, rolling the dice for $10,400 can result in 2 scenarios.
1. I flip it after few months/years at half the price, which I honestly don’t think it’s that hard. This could cost slightly more expensive than buying/using/selling other high end brands. But it could also be similar.
2. Somehow my unit dies, can’t find someone to fix and I lose all of $10,400. But then again, you’d have to pay $10,600 more out front if you buy it at $21,000 for service and whatnot. Besides, is it guaranteed to recuperate at least half of $21,000 when the time comes and you sell. Probably not because, with units at $5,000 on the used market, it just won’t sell at $10,000. I do acknowledge that there may be a nice discount you could be getting buying at $21,000.
Either way you lose, just like many other high end brands. Everybody is different, but I do get antsy if the cost I’m looking at is at a level where I don’t feel too bad of losing (only somewhat lol). I’m very interested in comparing E-800 vs. Diablo 300 in my system.
Or...forget all this and just continue “penny pinching” for a set of M2s.
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February 21, 2020, 02:08 PM #91
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February 21, 2020, 02:12 PM #92
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Re: Accuphase E-800
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February 21, 2020, 08:52 PM #93
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February 21, 2020, 11:59 PM #96
Re: Accuphase E-800
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February 22, 2020, 12:05 AM #97
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I didn't think you had to have actual knowledge to spout off on this or any forum topic or at least it doesn't appear that way.
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Stirring up trouble and just being plain ignorant seem to be his M.O. Don't know how Audio Cubes would stay in business for 20 years (In New York City no less) by selling Open Box...aka tinkered with... items.
Where in any of my comments did I say I was successful at anything? I left the work force to become the Full Time Caregiver 24/7 365 Days a year for my Dad (For several years) who suffered from Dementia, Parkinsons and Type 2 Diabetes. I threw away my 20+ Year career in I/T so my Dad wouldn't have to be put in a nursing home. If I was successful at anything I hope I was successful for the most part at being a good son.Amps: First Watt SIT-3, Pass XA25, Valvet E2 SE, LTA ZOTL40, First Watt SIT-1 Mono's, ARC Ref75SE, Decware Zen TorII MK4, Line Magnetic 845 Premium, Raven Reflection MK2, Audio Hungary Qualiton X200, Kingko 101Pro, Audio Hungary Qualiton I50
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February 22, 2020, 09:50 AM #99
Re: Accuphase E-800
It's a shame that we cannot have respectful commentary and debate without personal attacks. I know are an OCD fueled group of individuals with strong beliefs regarding aspects of our hobby but that does not take away from the fact we should be civil.
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February 22, 2020, 12:07 PM #100
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No, clearly "guarantee" was improperly used here. Just wanted my strong opinion on the matter to come through.
As everyone knows these electronics are serialized. Every successful Manufacturer I know of has territory restrictions that they enforce. I don't imagine that Audiocubes, who is not an Authorized Accuphase Dealer in North America can continue to source, import and sell equipment not destined for this Market, as a full time business no less. I would imagine the serial numbers are either removed, modified or replaced to avoid the source in Japan, or elsewhere, being exposed. Even if Accuphase doesnt care Im sure if Axiss or Audio Alliance contacted them with this complaint and serial numbers they would act.
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Ok, thanks very much for the quick response.
Esoteric DAC type, DSD or PCM?