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    Possible power outage for next two days

    Here in Northern CA it is fire season, and our power company has caused some major fires the last few years. Since they are being sued, and have declared bankruptcy due to those fires they are into overkill trying to not start anymore fires. So, at midnight they are shutting off power to quite a large area, and millions of people, for two days. I am right on the edge of the cutoff zone, and not sure if I will be affected or not. To be on the safe side I am listening to the stereo, and drinking beer tonight.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Here in Northern CA it is fire season, and our power company has caused some major fires the last few years. Since they are being sued, and have declared bankruptcy due to those fires they are into overkill trying to not start anymore fires. So, at midnight they are shutting off power to quite a large area, and millions of people, for two days. I am right on the edge of the cutoff zone, and not sure if I will be affected or not. To be on the safe side I am listening to the stereo, and drinking beer tonight.
    In the same boat.

    True to form, PG&E cannot tell me if my power will be shut off or not.

    I should add that my sister and her family lost their home in the Camp Fire in Paradise last year because PG&E CEO, Geisha Williams, decided NOT to turn the power off in Butte County last November 8 after PG&E issued 17 days of warning of pre-emptive outages.

    Why Geisha Williams is not in prison for criminal negligence remains a mystery to me.

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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Stay safe all. We have been out of our home for a week because of the Decker Fire which is still burning near our Colorado home. Due to very hard work by 900 firefighters we will be able to return home tomorrow AM.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by W9TR View Post
    Stay safe all. We have been out of our home for a week because of the Decker Fire which is still burning near our Colorado home. Due to very hard work by 900 firefighters we will be able to return home tomorrow AM.
    That is fantastic news Tom!
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Thanks Mike. Reading between the lines in the USFS evacuee briefings I was thinking Friday, so this is great news. We are holed up at a friend’s house and so our situation has been pretty good. It will be nice to be home.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Yes, it is great you can soon return home. Although this is a subject for another thread, I suspect these fire issues are only going to get worse as the years go by.
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    Possible power outage for next two days

    Wow, I have not heard about any of this. I would think fire season was behind us by a month or so. I know lots of the country is still hot, but mainly East/South East

    And shutting off power?


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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by W9TR View Post
    Stay safe all. We have been out of our home for a week because of the Decker Fire which is still burning near our Colorado home. Due to very hard work by 900 firefighters we will be able to return home tomorrow AM.
    Wonderful news and stay safe. I have some small sense of what that's like from helping my sister and her family from the loss of their home in the Camp Fire.

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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    Wow, I have not heard about any of this. I would think fire season was behind us by a month or so. I know lots of the country is still hot, but mainly East/South East

    And shutting off power?


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    The fire season in NorCal is October and November.

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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    The fire season in NorCal is October and November.
    I did not know that, I remember a few years ago we were getting smoke from CA, OR and BC, plus our contribution in WA - it wasn’t Beijing, but very unbearable


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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    I did not know that, I remember a few years ago we were getting smoke from CA, OR and BC, plus our contribution in WA - it wasn’t Beijing, but very unbearable


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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Thanks everyone for your kind wishes. It will be great to be back home.

    I really feel for all my friends in California. Love or hate PG&E they are in a no win situation. The PUC and public won’t let them build infrastructure and while they are really focused on conservation the existing grid infrastructure cannot handle peak demand so critical infrastructure is breaking.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    If you think Beijing is bad, try Shanghai some time...whoa.
    Actually from my experience Being is much worse than Shanghai.
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    Stay safe everyone and I hope you all can get back to business as usual quickly.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Be safe on the west coast. Unfortunate challenges with drought, fires and now power to prevent more fires.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Well, the power went out where I live in Five Canyons in Castro Valley last night, right before midnight. Its still off, 15 hours later and we have virtually no idea when it will go back on. The irony here is the power was shut off for predicted high winds (putting PG&E's crumbling infrastructure at potential risk for a downed power line) and...there is virtually no wind. Wind maps show a wind presently of up to...2 mph.

    After the devastating Tubbs and Atlas fires that ravaged Sonoma and Napa Counties in 2017 and the Camp Fire that devastated Paradise (and burned my sister's home to the ground) in November 2018, PG&E has "hardened" only 100 miles of power lines and towers in 10 months. They had a target of a whopping 150 miles for 2019. And they have...24,000 miles of lines and towers across California. At this rate it will take them....~160-200 years to complete this work.

    Meanwhile, PG&E plans to pay top excecutives $11,000,000 in...bonuses this year.

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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Mine never went off, but around me it did. I think it is coming back on now. At least that is what I am reading on Nextdoor.

    I suspect this is part of a PG&E strategy to get legislation that exempts them from any damages due to electrical caused fires. Inconvenience enough people, and it might work.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Hang in there guys. Not a good situation.

    in addition to the impact to homes, I wonder about the impact to the wine country. It is harvest time and power is critical for the vineyards to crush and process the fruit.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Hang in there guys. Not a good situation.

    in addition to the impact to homes, I wonder about the impact to the wine country. It is harvest time and power is critical for the vineyards to crush and process the fruit.
    Just ask CA Governor Gavin Newsome about that. He’s not at all happy that the power to his wineries has been turned off.

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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Power came back on at 7:30 PM; almost 20 hours after it went off.

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    PG&E said this will be the new normal for CA. Expect to have widespread power outages for undetermined periods of time when the winds blow.
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Power came back on at 7:30 PM; almost 20 hours after it went off.
    That's worse than in third world countries. Because in those countries, people expect it to be the norm and (those with means) have generators in their homes that come on automatically. They don't even notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    That's worse than in third world countries. Because in those countries, people expect it to be the norm and (those with means) have generators in their homes that come on automatically. They don't even notice.
    Yeah, but what happens when your generator runs out of fuel and the power is still out?
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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Yeah, but what happens when your generator runs out of fuel and the power is still out?
    You refill the gas tank and turn it back on.

    BTW, Some folks prefer to use power inverters that require no gas. The power inverters use big rechargable batteries. They get charged when there is power from the power company. They are silent.

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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    The whole thing is a mess.

    I would be real hesitant to turn on my system, day depending and make sure everything is off and unplugged


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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Living in a remote sparsely populated part of Northern California, at the end of the PG&E line, our power goes out several times a year, usually due to winter storms. I have a 8kw Kubota diesel generator that powers the whole house, but it needs to be activated manually. It does the job beautifully, and life goes on as normal, including the music, which sounds every bit as good as when powered by the grid. Surprisingly, PG&E did not shut off our power this week, even though they did in many other parts of Sonoma County!

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    I hope you are all ok. Watched some of the news coverage last night. Wow. Very scary.


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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Quote Originally Posted by MtnHam View Post
    Living in a remote sparsely populated part of Northern California, at the end of the PG&E line, our power goes out several times a year, usually due to winter storms. I have a 8kw Kubota diesel generator that powers the whole house, but it needs to be activated manually. It does the job beautifully, and life goes on as normal, including the music, which sounds every bit as good as when powered by the grid. Surprisingly, PG&E did not shut off our power this week, even though they did in many other parts of Sonoma County!

    (The solar system only works when connected to the grid.)
    Yeah, PG&E is rightly taking some flak for how and where the power was turned off. i've seen lots of photos where the lights are on one house, and off on the adjacent house. A friend of mine said the power was on in his home, but off across the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I hope you are all ok. Watched some of the news coverage last night. Wow. Very scary.


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    Its pretty scary in SoCal right now. Some very bad fires down near LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Its pretty scary in SoCal right now. Some very bad fires down near LA.
    Yes, crazy! It’s seems almost a part of normalcy as often as it occurs.

    We all seem to have something, we are sitting on top of a massive fault, plus a Volcano, aside from the Junkie camps.

    Insurance needs to be reviewed!

    And as always, be safe!!!


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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    • Yesterday: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/...utoff-disabled

    • Today: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...vate-investors

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    Re: Possible power outage for next two days

    Depending on where you live ... cost, weather conditions, maintenance/repairs, etc.
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We are as crazy about this hobby as you are! So come on in and join us! Audioshark.org the Friendliest Audio Forum!

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Audioshark is a community of like minded individuals. Audioshark welcomes participation from all manufacturers and owners of all brands and products. It is our belief that online forums provide a community of like minded audiophiles and music lovers to encourage the growth of this wonderful hobby.

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