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    Re: D’Agostino Factory Tour

    My HD upgraded pre arrived yesterday. I was able to listen for just a couple of hours.

    My my initial observation is that the upgrade was well worth it. More air, larger stage and tighter bottom; similar impression I experienced when I upgraded the S200 to S250. And, the new remote with Bluetooth connectivity to the pre works great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    My HD upgraded pre arrived yesterday. I was able to listen for just a couple of hours.

    My my initial observation is that the upgrade was well worth it. More air, larger stage and tighter bottom; similar impression I experienced when I upgraded the S200 to S250. And, the new remote with Bluetooth connectivity to the pre works great!
    Mike
    Your comments are making me antsy for mine to be manufactured and delivered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    Mike
    Your comments are making me antsy for mine to be manufactured and delivered.
    i would be very willing to bet that you’ll be happy Jim.
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    Re: D’Agostino Factory Tour

    I am crying inside with envy for the both of you as it is apparent I will be well out of budget after I move forward in the analogue arena putting this off until next year.

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    Re: D’Agostino Factory Tour

    On Friday I ordered the Progression Stereo and seeing these pictures gets me more excited. I would have loved to have purchase the Momentum, but can’t bring myself to spend that kind of money. Does anyone know how long it typically takes to ship once ordered? I know they are hand made but do they keep stock or are they made to order?

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    Re: D’Agostino Factory Tour

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    My HD upgraded pre arrived yesterday. I was able to listen for just a couple of hours.

    My my initial observation is that the upgrade was well worth it. More air, larger stage and tighter bottom; similar impression I experienced when I upgraded the S200 to S250. And, the new remote with Bluetooth connectivity to the pre works great!
    My wife and I have been listening to our upgraded Momentum Pre-amp HD for about a month now and also agree the upgrade was very much worth the $$$. In our system and to our ears we felt the following:

    - The micro-dynamics (to our ears) of both individual instruments and also the said instruments within the soundstage was the biggest improvement. Expect a much faster response to initial hits of a percussive instrument, pluck of a string, or even the dynamics of the air around the vocal cords of a singer. To us, this improvement took an already hyper-dynamic pre-amp and pushed it further into reality. Just outstanding.
    - While this might be because of the above changes, the speed at which a FF->P or P->F dynamic swing in intensity has very much both sped up and stopped faster. This gave the intensity of either loud->soft or soft->loud passages a more realistic representation. Loud to soft passages don't exhibit any "hangover" (think tape saturation as an analogy) and stop on a dime. Soft->Loud is super quick without being overtly harsh.
    - There was definitely a perceived and apparent kick in the pants in the lower octaves that made both the perceived bass more pronounced in addition to being tighter.
    - We felt the width of the soundstage widened, but not so much the depth.
    - Again, this might be because of the dynamic improvements of this pre-amp over its predecessor, but even the timbre of certain instruments seemed to be more realistic. We would not say every instrument, but certain ones obviously benefited(lower toms on a drum kit, cymbal crashes, keys struck individually on a piano, strings picked on a guitar (especially the nuances when an arpeggio is played on a guitar, where the ringing of the prior played note interacting with the other picked note gained more realism in our opinion)).

    I would say to our ears in our system for dynamics, the Momentum Pre -> Momentum HD Pre upgrade was similar in scope to the Momentum -> Momentum M400 upgrade, but we still feel the amp upgrade was a "bigger" (if that makes sense) upgrade. However, as said above, it is well worth the money and we would do it again in a heartbeat.

    For us it took about 45+ hours of break-in when most of the changes solidified, with about 70 hours hitting a plateau where there were no more easily perceivable changes to our ears.

    Thanks for listening.
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    Re: D’Agostino Factory Tour

    Is the tone the same as before - warm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bar81 View Post
    Is the tone the same as before - warm?
    While I can't speak what is "warm" to you, what I can say is that the balance or accuracy (which to my ear when pushed to the extreme can be considered harsh, bright, or sterile) vs. humanness/musicality (which to my ear when pushed to the extreme can be considered syrupy, methodical, etc.) has not lost its IMHO place in the continuum of Momentum products. I feel Dan biased his current Momentum designs with nice engineering tradeoffs for an accurate and musical presentation. If I had a gun put to my head, it might be a hair towards the accuracy side of the continuum I speak about above, but that would be true of the original Momentum Pre-amp also. So, I don't think is moved much away from the original "house sound" if you will.
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    Re: D’Agostino Factory Tour

    Quote Originally Posted by laynesaddiction View Post
    While I can't speak what is "warm" to you, what I can say is that the balance or accuracy (which to my ear when pushed to the extreme can be considered harsh, bright, or sterile) vs. humanness/musicality (which to my ear when pushed to the extreme can be considered syrupy, methodical, etc.) has not lost its IMHO place in the continuum of Momentum products. I feel Dan biased his current Momentum designs with nice engineering tradeoffs for an accurate and musical presentation. If I had a gun put to my head, it might be a hair towards the accuracy side of the continuum I speak about above, but that would be true of the original Momentum Pre-amp also. So, I don't think is moved much away from the original "house sound" if you will.
    Fair enough. Thanks, that's what I wanted to know.
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    Re: D’Agostino Factory Tour

    Anthony's description is spot on what I've experienced with my newly upgraded pre to the HD level. It's sounding so good that my wife spent a couple of hours last evening with me listening to vinyl. She will typically listen for a little while then move on but not yesterday.
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