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    Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC

    sixmoons published an interesting review of the Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC. https://6moons.com/audioreviews2/denafrips/4.html

    Has anyone had any experience with this DAC?

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    Re: Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC

    I think this is a couple of years old. But still an interesting review. Havenít heard much about this DAC lately. Rarer to see it at shows.

    But interesting and I love R2R DACís. They seem to really nail female vocals with such fleshy tones and naturalness.
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    Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    sixmoons published an interesting review of the Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC. https://6moons.com/audioreviews2/denafrips/4.html

    Has anyone had any experience with this DAC?

    .





    I had it for a week and found it dry as hell. Sold it immediately. The one caveat is that it was only on for a day when I made the call. The following day when I packed it up I gave another quick listen and it had transformed completely. Not sure of it being a function of having been left on constantly but it sounded completely better. Didnít have time to listen critically at that point though as I had to box it up. The review is spot on but my memory had been of the Chord DAVE I had in my system the previous week... and thatís unit is tough to beat below 20k


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    Re: Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    sixmoons published an interesting review of the Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC. https://6moons.com/audioreviews2/denafrips/4.html

    Has anyone had any experience with this DAC?
    Yup, wrote a rave review on Audioshark:

    https://www.audioshark.org/computer-...63-page14.html

    and returned the DAC, for reasons specified:

    https://www.audioshark.org/computer-...63-page15.html

    Sometimes a system can conceal weaknesses, which upon upgrade become apparent. BTW, while I heard the difference on an Octave HP 300 SE preamp, I actually bought the even better Octave HP 700 preamp. The Yggy Analog 2 really shines with the preamp upgrade. The preamp is more than 6 x as expensive as the Yggy. Makes sense? Absolutely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owldiscourse View Post
    I had it for a week and found it dry as hell. Sold it immediately. The one caveat is that it was only on for a day when I made the call. The following day when I packed it up I gave another quick listen and it had transformed completely. Not sure of it being a function of having been left on constantly but it sounded completely better.
    Mine was on and running 24/7 for almost 14 days.
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    Re: Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC

    Al M.......Thanks for the links to your Denafrips Terminator review and the update. Enlightening. I am still completely enamored with my Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC but was curious about the Terminator. Reports from actual owners are generally the most revealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Al M.......Thanks for the links to your Denafrips Terminator review and the update. Enlightening. I am still completely enamored with my Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC but was curious about the Terminator. Reports from actual owners are generally the most revealing.
    You're welcome, Dan. I suspect some of the perceived enhanced transparency and openness of the Terminator in my original review can be attributed to slight differences in tonal balance. Audio is tricky, and first impressions are not always correct.

    Funny, having the new Octave preamp in the chain there is a separation of instruments in complex orchestral music audible with the Yggdrasil Analog 2 that is simply stunning. So the DAC is clearly transparent. Here is what I wrote in my listening impressions of the Octave preamp, but of course this separation begins at the source (Simaudio Moon 260 DT transport/Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC) and is only revealed with the preamp in the system:

    "Last month Ian and I went to see Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring (Sacre du Printemps) with the Boston Symphony. Gustavo Dudamel was supposed to conduct, but had to cancel due to an arm injury. Instead, the assistant conductor of the BSO, Ken-David Masur, son of famous conductor Kurt Masur, led the performance. It was spectacular. So transparent was the playing under this conductor, allowing to easily discern a multitude of simultaneous musical lines, that the complex score seemed like an open book -- by just listening to the music, not reading it. The playing of the BSO was also incredibly precise; we had heard such sensational precision with the BSO under the same conductor earlier in the season in Prokofiev’s Romeo and Juliet. Ken-David Masur is a rising star, for sure.

    On my drive home I was marveling about the performance, but also had feelings of frustration that I would not be able to experience this see-through transparency of the music at home; I knew how it had sounded a few months before.

    Yet after having had the Octave HP 700 in the system for some time I decided to spin my CD of the Rite of Spring with Stravinsky conducting his own work (Columbia/Sony). I was shocked and immensely delighted that I had a rather similar experience as at the Boston Symphony: I could listen deeply into the score, with a stunning clarity of a multitude of simultaneous musical lines before me. The great differentiation of orchestral colors undoubtedly has a role in this, too. The playing of the Columbia Symphony Orchestra is not quite as phenomenally precise as that of the Boston Symphony, but still excellent as well." (End quote.)

    My friend Ian confirmed my findings after hearing that CD in my system.
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    Al M.......That was quite the listening experience and comparison with your home system reproduction of a similar performance. I also use the Simaudio Moon 260 D, as well as an Aurender N100H music server to feed the Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC in the living room system. The sound is consistently exhilarating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al M. View Post
    You're welcome, Dan. I suspect some of the perceived enhanced transparency and openness of the Terminator in my original review can be attributed to slight differences in tonal balance. Audio is tricky, and first impressions are not always correct.

    Funny, having the new Octave preamp in the chain there is a separation of instruments in complex orchestral music audible with the Yggdrasil Analog 2 that is simply stunning. So the DAC is clearly transparent. Here is what I wrote in my listening impressions of the Octave preamp, but of course this separation begins at the source (Simaudio Moon 260 DT transport/Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC) and is only revealed with the preamp in the system:

    "Last month Ian and I went to see Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring (Sacre du Printemps) with the Boston Symphony. Gustavo Dudamel was supposed to conduct, but had to cancel due to an arm injury. Instead, the assistant conductor of the BSO, Ken-David Masur, son of famous conductor Kurt Masur, led the performance. It was spectacular. So transparent was the playing under this conductor, allowing to easily discern a multitude of simultaneous musical lines, that the complex score seemed like an open book -- by just listening to the music, not reading it. The playing of the BSO was also incredibly precise; we had heard such sensational precision with the BSO under the same conductor earlier in the season in Prokofiev’s Romeo and Juliet. Ken-David Masur is a rising star, for sure.

    On my drive home I was marveling about the performance, but also had feelings of frustration that I would not be able to experience this see-through transparency of the music at home; I knew how it had sounded a few months before.

    Yet after having had the Octave HP 700 in the system for some time I decided to spin my CD of the Rite of Spring with Stravinsky conducting his own work (Columbia/Sony). I was shocked and immensely delighted that I had a rather similar experience as at the Boston Symphony: I could listen deeply into the score, with a stunning clarity of a multitude of simultaneous musical lines before me. The great differentiation of orchestral colors undoubtedly has a role in this, too. The playing of the Columbia Symphony Orchestra is not quite as phenomenally precise as that of the Boston Symphony, but still excellent as well." (End quote.)

    My friend Ian confirmed my findings after hearing that CD in my system.
    Interesting info about the Octave preamp.

    I met and had dinner with founder of Octave, Dr. Andreas Hoffman, some years ago at RMAF. We were taken out by the Dynaudio NA gang for dinner. I sat next to him and we talked engineering all evening long. He is a very talented designer and makes some very nice-sounding products, indeed. Even his entry model integrated amp is a real sweetheart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Al M.......Thanks for the links to your Denafrips Terminator review and the update. Enlightening. I am still completely enamored with my Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC but was curious about the Terminator. Reports from actual owners are generally the most revealing.
    Sorry if Iím missing something, but all I see are links for a cartridge?


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