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    Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Like bluegrassphile, I am in the hunt for a new Integrated Amp but with a lower budget. For this go around, I am hoping to be closer to $5K.

    I was just looking at the Anthem STR, which has good features, reviews, power and price. Anyone have thoughts on this unit? ebay has a new in the box one for $4K
    I like the Luxman 507, but may be over my budget.
    A slightly used Pass int60 may be swing-able
    Music Fidelity M6si looks decent at $3K

    Then there are plenty of Tube units in the $2-$3K range, is a Rogue Cronus Magnum a good choice?

    Please list ones you could recommend to look into even tho my price range is lower than the norm for this forum if you would.

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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Maybe a Naim Supernait 3 with a Teddy Pardo power supply (to save money). A great friend has my original Supernait 2 with a TeddyPardo and he absolutely loves it. He’s been through Burmester and Dartzeel, among others.

    Retail on the Naim Supernaits has dropped a little over $1,000 making the 3 a screaming bargain.
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Maybe a Naim Supernait 3 with a Teddy Pardo power supply (to save money). A great friend has my original Supernait 2 with a TeddyPardo and he absolutely loves it. He’s been through Burmester and Dartzeel, among others.

    Retail on the Naim Supernaits has dropped a little over $1,000 making the 3 a screaming bargain.
    Joe, I cannot tell from the product page, does this unit have an outboard PS?
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    Joe, I cannot tell from the product page, does this unit have an outboard PS?
    You can use one of 2 or 3 external power supplies. Typically the HiCap is the recommend unit. It’s not absolutely necessary to get it from the start. You can always add one later but you do need an additional cable to facilitate hook up.
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    OK, I am not seeing the port for the umbilical in the photos of the back of the unit, but aside from dull looks, it is in the right price range.
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Brian.......The PrimaLuna DiaLogue Premium HP Integrated amplifier ($4399) deserves your consideration.

    https://www.primaluna-usa.com/dialog...-hp-integrated


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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Brian.......The PrimaLuna DiaLogue Premium HP Integrated amplifier ($4399) deserves your consideration.

    https://www.primaluna-usa.com/dialog...-hp-integrated


    Good choice, as could be a lightly used Audio Research VSi75.
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    OK, I am not seeing the port for the umbilical in the photos of the back of the unit, but aside from dull looks, it is in the right price range.
    Just to the right of the bar code in the middle of the unit is a dual plastic plug that comes out and the two power supply cables plug in there.



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    NAD C 658 streamer.

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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Brian.......The PrimaLuna DiaLogue Premium HP Integrated amplifier ($4399) deserves your consideration.

    https://www.primaluna-usa.com/dialog...-hp-integrated

    I am going to get an in home demo of this unit next week when it gets back to the shop. This model was discontinued and he will discount the demo unit some if I like it.

    The more I read and watch videos, it seems like an awesome unit.

    Thanks again for this rec
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Octave Audio had an integrated around $4500.00 tht was really good.

    Mac has an integrated at $3500.00 I thought sounded good driving the new JBL L100's.

    You'd probably have to get new speakers, however, I was really impressed by Triode of Japan who has an integrated at $3500.00, 8x2. I thought it stood out in a comparison of it against Wells Audio and Cyrus.

    On the other end of the sonic spectrum, Hegel has units in your range. The 190 recently received another glowing review.

    Out of the amps in your post, the Pass. In fact, one of the better choices overall if not needing a DAC
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    I am going to get an in home demo of this unit next week when it gets back to the shop. This model was discontinued and he will discount the demo unit some if I like it.

    The more I read and watch videos, it seems like an awesome unit.

    Thanks again for this rec
    Brian.......You may find my PrimaLuna ProLogue Premium Integrated Amplifier Review from 2013 an interesting read. The newer DiaLogue Premium HP Integrated is the next level up and employs the latest premium parts and circuits. I was impressed with the ProLogue Premium Integrated, although more output power would have been welcomed. The DiaLogue Premium HP took care of the power issue and upped the performance. I will be interested to read your impressions. A nice discount is icing on the cake.
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Brian.......The PrimaLuna DiaLogue Premium HP Integrated amplifier ($4399) deserves your consideration.

    https://www.primaluna-usa.com/dialog...-hp-integrated


    Second this. Amazing amp


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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    If you keep watching you might find a used Aesthetix Mimas in your price range.
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Brian, have you considered Schiit components? They get consistently great reviews and are very reasonably priced.

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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Brian,

    I have to give you another recommendation, even if it’s only temporary but I cannot believe how good this amp sounds.

    https://www.akitika.com/akitikastore.html

    A little over $500 assembled, available attenuator for direct use or add a good/great preamp and sit back and enjoy. 50wpc that embarrasses many others with a money back guarantee.

    If you want to try mine, just pay for shipping.
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Depending on timeframe, waiting for the new Hegel H390 to come out might be a great option for you. Preliminary reviews show it to be a considerable step up from the H360.

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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    I have no personal experience with this one but Steve Guttenberg really likes it (Although he seems to like EVERYTHING!!).

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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Brian.......The PrimaLuna DiaLogue Premium HP Integrated amplifier ($4399) deserves your consideration.

    https://www.primaluna-usa.com/dialog...-hp-integrated


    I love the old school looks of these.


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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    I don't remember hearing any, there used to be a big buzz about Line Magnetic for a high performance per dollar ratio. Anyone experience them?
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    You can get used Jadis I50 and Vac Sigmas for under $6k - I'd start with one of those.

    If you have high efficiency speakers, there are a few more I can recommend.
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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    Among my 10 or so amps, I love the Cronus Magnum. It uses KT120’s and puts out 100 wpc. And made right in your home Commonwealth of Pennsylvania! And at around $2,000 or so it’s a veritable bargain. They recently came out with a mark iii version. I’m using it to drive my Quad ESLs and JM Reynaud Offrande Supreme II’s and am enjoying it more than my more expensive Pass Labs components. Or if you desire separates you can use their Atlas Magnum power amp with a Linear Tube Audio Microzotl and get dynamite sound for around $4,000. My two cents for what it’s worth.

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    Re: Integrated Amps under $6K - Tube or SS

    What about the Luxman 505 at under $5k? Love the looks.
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