Listening to music in analog...

[nicoff]

Listening to music in analog forces you to slow down. You have to take it easy. You can't just skip a track by pressing a button. You have to physically get up and move the tonearm. So you stay put and listen to the whole side. It can be actually beneficial to your well-being. Sometimes that's the way you want to listen to music.

[bart]

I can stay in my sofa without pressing buttons when listening to digital files too.
In fact, a lot longer than with vinyl...

[pweg]

i agree

vinyl for me is the ultimate time stopper

[still-one]

Listening to music in analog forces you to slow down. You have to take it easy. You can't just skip a track by pressing a button. You have to physically get up and move the tonearm. So you stay put and listen to the whole side. It can be actually beneficial to your well-being. Sometimes that's the way you want to listen to music.

And every one of those reasons is why my analog rig sits gathering dust. A complete waste of my time and money.

[Mike]

Listening to music in analog forces you to slow down. You have to take it easy. You can't just skip a track by pressing a button. You have to physically get up and move the tonearm. So you stay put and listen to the whole side. It can be actually beneficial to your well-being. Sometimes that's the way you want to listen to music.

Totally agree. It’s a completely different experience and that’s what I was trying to convey in my other posts. Having both sources is wonderful. But vinyl is very special to me. Like a gourmet meal with a fine bottle of wine.

[mep]

Is this thread any different than the one Mike started on the same subject?

[Mike]

Is this thread any different than the one Mike started on the same subject?

Some are revisiting vinyl and realizing the enjoyment.

[Mikado463]

And every one of those reasons is why my analog rig sits gathering dust. A complete waste of my time and money.

Jim, then why didn't you sell it ?

[nicoff]

Is this thread any different than the one Mike started on the same subject?

To be frank, I really don't know and don't care. I don't listen to analog much anymore but I wanted to share the experience of listening to analog with anyone who might care. If that's not you, that's ok.

[still-one]

Jim, then why didn't you sell it ?

Because I can't get anything for it.

Also, please understand I am not trying to talk anyone out of enjoying their analog gear. Everyone has the right to spend and enjoy their time on this big rock as they see fit.

[Mikado463]

Because I can't get anything for it.

gotcha, must be like my avatar .........

[a.wayne]

Because I can't get anything for it.

Also, please understand I am not trying to talk anyone out of enjoying their analog gear. Everyone has the right to spend and enjoy their time on this big rock as they see fit.

Then donate it to someone trying out analog ...

[nicoff]

I can stay in my sofa without pressing buttons when listening to digital files too.
In fact, a lot longer than with vinyl...

I can do that too. But sometimes the inconvenience of vinyl and the ritual of getting off my butt, finding an album that I know is somewhere in that pile of records, cleaning it before placing it on the table, turning the TT on, lifting the tonearm and letting it drop slowly on the record is what the doctor recommends. 😁

[mep]

To be frank, I really don't know and don't care. I don't listen to analog much anymore but I wanted to share the experience of listening to analog with anyone who might care. If that's not you, that's ok.

You can tell by my signature that I obviously do care.

[mep]

Then donate it to someone trying out analog ...

I've told him numerous times to send it to me and I will take care of it for him.

[Mike]

I've told him numerous times to send it to me and I will take care of it for him.

It’s a real nice SME if I recall.


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[bart]

I can do that too. But sometimes the inconvenience of vinyl and the ritual of getting off my butt, finding an album that I know is somewhere in that pile of records, cleaning it before placing it on the table, turning the TT on, lifting the tonearm and letting it drop slowly on the record is what the doctor recommends. ��

I hear you.
I also like the ritual of going through my CD rack and choosing an album.

For real physical excercises - like you cleaning records and lifting tonearms - I still have my athletics.

[nicoff]

I hear you.
I also like the ritual of going through my CD rack and choosing an album.

For real physical excercises - like you cleaning records and lifting tonearms - I still have my athletics.

[Mikado463]

I hear you.
I also like the ritual of going through my CD rack and choosing an album.

agreed, here's to physical media! ....

[Mike]

agreed, here's to physical media! ....

True, and it sounds better! The MSB Transport still sounds considerably better than streaming.

It’s funny, the guys who worry about cable lifters, carbon fiber wall plates, stillpoints, grounding boxes and the like, tell me, “Tidal is good enough.”


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[kzhtoo]

Then donate it to someone trying out analog ...

I do in-home pick up and buy a nice dinner.

[a.wayne]

It’s a real nice SME if I recall.


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Aren’t they all nice, analog TT is definitely a mood thing, the ritual you just gotta love it or its not going to work , only those who do , get it ...


Regards

BTW Mike ,

would love to see a record cleaning post, there are so many machines available today to sort through ....!

[Mike]

Aren’t they all nice, analog TT is definitely a mood thing, the ritual you just gotta love it or its not going to work , only those who do , get it ...


Regards

BTW Mike ,

would love to see a record cleaning post, there are so many machines available today to sort through ....!

I own the ClearAudio Double Matrix. It’s awesome. The AD is also good.


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[astrotoy]

After starting with vinyl as my analogue standard almost 60 years ago, I made the revelatory (for me) discovery of 15ips 2 track reel to reel tape in 2007. That is the gold standard for me for reproduced sound. Any recording made before the early to mid 80's was recorded on reel to reel tape and commercial and other sources demonstrate how much is lost in its conversion to digital or even vinyl. If you haven't had the experience, particularly with first or second generation copies of master tapes (the same generations from which digital copies and vinyl are begun to be made), please try to find a friend who can play these tapes, or, even better, will allow you to borrow their machines and some of their tapes.

I spent the weekend helping a friend in his room at the California Audio Show. We played tapes about 90% of the time. He told me that it is quite unusual for people to stay listening in a room in a show for 30 or 45 minutes, even an hour or more. And also having people applaud and come up to thank us for the experience.

Larry

[A.S.]

And don't forget the sometimes excellent liner notes;

"There is a Japanese visual art in which the artist is forced to be spontaneous. He must paint on a thin stretched parchment with a special brush and black water paint in such a way that an unnatural or interrupted stroke will destroy the line or break through the parchment. Erasures or changes are impossible. These artists must practice a particular discipline, that of allowing the idea to express itself in communication with their hands in such a direct way that deliberation cannot interfere.The resulting pictures lack the complex composition and textures of ordinary painting, but it is said that those who see well find something captured that escapes explanation.
This conviction that direct deed is the most meaningful reflections, I believe, has prompted the evolution of the extremely severe and unique disciplines of the jazz or improvising musician.
Group improvisation is a further challenge. Aside from the weighty technical problem of collective coherent thinking, there is the very human, even social need for sympathy from all members to bend for the common result. This most difficult problem, I think, is beautifully met and solved on this recording.
As the painter needs his framework of parchment, the improvising musical group needs its framework in time,. Miles Davis presents here frameworks which are exquisite in their simplicity and yet contain all that is necessary to stimulate performance with sure reference to the primary conception.
Miles conceived these settings only hours before the recording dates and arrived with sketches which indicated to the group what was to be played. Therefore, you will hear something close to pure spontaneity in these performances. The group had never played these pieces prior to the recordings and I think without exception the first complete performance of each was a "take."
--- Bill Evans

[Abendroth]

Being a classical vinyl collector, having a collection of + 5000 / 6000 records, I can only agree with that perception of vinyl listening: it's unique....
especially, regarding analog, as I have purchased few weeks ago what is a kind of "Rolls Royce " of analog LP production ! I'll try to introduce that treasure in a post..probably one of / or THE most luxurious piano
record ever issued in the last 50 years !

[joeinid]

Welcome to the forum.

[W9TR]

I love the rituals around vinyl. The feel of the album jacket, the smell of a lot of parties maybe wafting up as I pull it off the shelf. The jacket artwork - bold and unapologetic - not some digital facsimile. All analog authoring and printing. The physical sensation of removing the sleeve from the jacket. Finally pulling out the disc and giving it a whirl on the VPI machine. Then placing it on the 50 pound platter of the Nottingham Dais. Made by a true craftsman in a garage shop. Spinning the massive 50 pound platter by hand to get it spinning - no wimpy on off switch needed here. Finally cueing up the record to hear the black velvet background from which the music will soon emanate. Sitting down in my chair for a side.

The inconvenience coupled with high distortion and noise really make the vinyl experience for me. Really, how is it that a format with performance orders of magnitude worse than digital so enjoyable?

I don’t understand it. But I love it just the same.

[UltraFast69]

I love the rituals around vinyl. The feel of the album jacket, the smell of a lot of parties maybe wafting up as I pull it off the shelf. The jacket artwork - bold and unapologetic - not some digital facsimile. All analog authoring and printing. The physical sensation of removing the sleeve from the jacket. Finally pulling out the disc and giving it a whirl on the VPI machine. Then placing it on the 50 pound platter of the Nottingham Dais. Made by a true craftsman in a garage shop. Spinning the massive 50 pound platter by hand to get it spinning - no wimpy on off switch needed here. Finally cueing up the record to hear the black velvet background from which the music will soon emanate. Sitting down in my chair for a side.

The inconvenience coupled with high distortion and noise really make the vinyl experience for me. Really, how is it that a format with performance orders of magnitude worse than digital so enjoyable?

I don’t understand it. But I love it just the same.

Tom, I’m so hooked right now, despite having a table with an on and off switch


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[W9TR]

Ed, it’s totally counter intuitive, isn’t it? I’m glad you’re having fun with vinyl. I have all the world’s music at my fingertips and I choose to spin vinyl more often than not. My digital is getting better all the time but my most engaging experiences are still with vinyl. I have records I bought when I was 12, so there is a nostalgia component to it. It’s all different and all awesome.

[UltraFast69]

Ed, it’s totally counter intuitive, isn’t it? I’m glad you’re having fun with vinyl. I have all the world’s music at my fingertips and I choose to spin vinyl more often than not. My digital is getting better all the time but my most engaging experiences are still with vinyl. I have records I bought when I was 12, so there is a nostalgia component to it. It’s all different and all awesome.

Yes, having Analog as an option knocked it out of the park for me, and honestly I am going days now without hearing digital, thinking because it’s so new to me - this is fun!



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[Mike]

Yes, having Analog as an option knocked it out of the park for me, and honestly I am going days now without hearing digital, thinking because it’s so new to me - this is fun!



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Uh huh. I remember a guy who posted a thread “why no turntable”? Glad you guys are all having fun enjoying another side of the hobby!


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[mep]

Uh huh. I remember a guy who posted a thread “why no turntable”? Glad you guys are all having fun enjoying another side of the hobby!


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Yeah, I remember the same thing. Some were sitting on the fence and jumped over to the analog side while some who weren’t even on the fence decided to climb over to the analog side.

[UltraFast69]

Uh huh. I remember a guy who posted a thread “why no turntable”? Glad you guys are all having fun enjoying another side of the hobby!


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Now I have a Florida wife




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[Mike]

Now I have a Florida wife




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[Abendroth]

Actually, I left a detailed message on that great LP record I was speaking of in the music forum...