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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    I'd rather not, but I'll take your word on it. Probably wouldn't pass scientific rigor, but pretty darn funny none the less.
    I'm sure there were some embarrassed chefs!
    In my tests of vinyl vs "digitized" same vinyl in real time with the audio club, there was a lot of laughing, no one got mad, everyone had fun.
    The way it should be.
    And when the guy from Audacity came he proved how much information in music is truncated with 16/44 and how much more info was on the record. He showed us in real time on the screen at Bartís. And the Japanese pressing he used made the cd rip sound broken.


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    Re: The Audiohpile Ear

    Ive always found this to be fascinating. https://www.npr.org/sections/thereco...-audio-quality
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    I'd rather not, but I'll take your word on it. Probably wouldn't pass scientific rigor, but pretty darn funny none the less.
    I'm sure there were some embarrassed chefs!
    In my tests of vinyl vs "digitized" same vinyl in real time with the audio club, there was a lot of laughing, no one got mad, everyone had fun.
    The way it should be.
    It is funny to watch. Gordon Ramsey not only takes away their sight during the testing, he also takes away their hearing so they are down two senses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    And when the guy from Audacity came he proved how much information in music is truncated with 16/44 and how much more info was on the record.
    Yes, "music" and noise, etc. above 22kHz would be gone. As noted previously, audiometric science says old guys can't hear above 15k.
    Old guys say they can hear into the GHz range. Believe me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    He showed us in real time on the screen at Bart’s.
    My listening, not viewing, was done in real time. The vinyl was playing real time, pops and all, and instantly switched to a low latency throughput ADA loop, pops and all. Voltages matched within 0.1v at the amp outs. There was no giveaway, just analog vs analog.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    And the Japanese pressing he used made the cd rip sound broken.
    I didn't do any rips or Audacity processing, which can't possibly be compared in real time, so completely different from my test. What method did he use to match voltages? How was the test blind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    It is funny to watch. Gordon Ramsey not only takes away their sight during the testing, he also takes away their hearing so they are down two senses.
    He took away their hearing?? That doesn't sound like science at all.
    Fun I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    Yes, "music" and noise, etc. above 22kHz would be gone. As noted previously, audiometric science says old guys can't hear above 15k.
    Old guys say they can hear into the GHz range. Believe me.


    My listening, not viewing, was done in real time. The vinyl was playing real time, pops and all, and instantly switched to a low latency throughput ADA loop, pops and all. Voltages matched within 0.1v at the amp outs. There was no giveaway, just analog vs analog.


    I didn't do any rips or Audacity processing, which can't possibly be compared in real time, so completely different from my test. What method did he use to match voltages? How was the test blind?
    You were there my friend and the look on your face when the vinyl spanked the digital was classic.


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    Ramsey doesn’t want them to hear what is being said during the blind tasting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    You were there my friend and the look on your face when the vinyl spanked the digital was classic.
    I think you have me confused with someone else Mike.
    The only vinyl/recording thing I recall at Barts was the Channel Island (?) guys demo of how to rip vinyl/archive with his software.
    Audacity?? Real time, unfiltered comparison? Me not smiling? Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    I think you have me confused with someone else Mike.
    The only vinyl/recording thing I recall at Barts was the Channel Island (?) guys demo of how to rip vinyl/archive with his software.
    Audacity?? Real time, unfiltered comparison? Me not smiling? Never.
    It was almost 8 years ago at Bartís. The guy brought his turntable and software. You were definitely there. I remember laughing as the vinyl (Japanese pressing of DSOTM)!had more info (measured) and just crushed the CD sonically and in measurements. No surprise. The SACD is better, but he brought the CD. Bart was using a Marantz CD player (the gold one) and the guy brought some modest table.


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    Google search to the rescue again: http://www.channld.com/purevinyl/
    Methinks you might be misremembering a bit Mike. It's ok, all part of perception.

 

 
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