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July 15, 2019, 01:04 PM #51
Re: Active Speakers - would you consider?
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July 15, 2019, 01:14 PM #52
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Ah, you're blaming you initial specious, fabricated, evidence free claims on excessive Guiness consumption.
Hey you're finally making a bit of sense! bravo.
Btw, I'm sure the Large/Small signal thing was way over your head, but if you need some layman links, I can help you.
What modeling programs do you use for your guesswork filter designs in these imaginary speakers of yours?
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July 15, 2019, 01:20 PM #53
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Your actually pretty clueless when it comes to speaker design AJ, anyway ,
Let me know if you are up to the challenge , spewing constant Phoobey dust theories with no measured proof yet demanding such is getting pretty thin ..
Regards
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July 15, 2019, 01:44 PM #54
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Possibly, but at least folks can see and hear them for themselves, no milk carton required.
Yours Mr Wayne?
We're ready for you "matching" electrical evidence Mr Wayne. Go right ahead.
This will be very helpful to answering Mike's question of "Active Speakers - would you consider?"
Mr Wayne?
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July 15, 2019, 01:49 PM #55
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July 15, 2019, 01:54 PM #56
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July 15, 2019, 05:16 PM #57
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I sense there's a bit of a pissing contest between you two?.
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July 15, 2019, 05:44 PM #58
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Lets just say we know each other. There's no contest. I make speakers you can see, touch and hear.
Mr. Waynes speakers are made by the same folks who make Wonder Womans plane. Good luck hearing them.
He's a bit unhappy with me, because obviously, from his nonsensical statements, he hits the pipe pretty hard and is convinced I stole his stash.
Turns out it was Steve Guttenberg. Just watch his videos and you'll see the similarities (all video frames should have the subtitle "Stoner" flashing). Science/scientific facts or basic logic aren't their thing.
Heck, if I were that baked all the time, it might make some sense.
Now as far as active speakers go, you're not going to see a cogent, rational, scientifically literate argument against. Just the usual nonsense.
Are they for everyone? Of course not. Just look at the variety of brands/systems you see here.
Might they serve the music lover who just wants to hear great sound and not OCD on every form of widget that typically adorns the usual, not really acoustically invisible audiophile shrine? Sure.
It would certainly cut down on the innumerable "what amp X/cable Y/etc." has "synergy" with speaker Z type questions and subsequent engineering free dart board tossing/street rumors/anecdote answers.
Now whether you consider that a good, or bad thing...
cheers,
AJ
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July 15, 2019, 06:04 PM #59
Re: Active Speakers - would you consider?
preaching to the choir
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July 18, 2019, 10:47 PM #60
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I just read a review by Jerry Del Colliano of the B&W, here's the conclusion:
Conclusion
Great design paired with fantastic sound makes the Bowers & Wilkins Formation Wedge one of the best compelling single-speaker solution that I've ever heard. Perhaps more importantly, its deft mix of audiophile sound and innovative form factor is exactly the sort of combination we need to appeal to younger and more mainstream consumers and woo them into the love of great sound.
If you are an audiophile in need of a wireless solution, the Bowers & Wilkins Formation is a must-hear product. If you have a young person in your life who you would love to get involved in the art, science, and passion of great sound reproduction, this could also be a $899 well spent.
Make no mistake: this is no normal single wireless speaker. The Bowers & Wilkins Formation Wedge (especially when paired with the Formation Bass) turns your phone, laptop, or tablet into a legitimate starter audiophile system. Bravo. And by the way, B&W: you can't have the review samples back. The check is in the mail as I am keeping this system for my condo and pending new home.
The active speakers are fairly new, I've always had components but would keep an open mind if the application came along. I was really impressed with the active ATC but the price could buy a lot of electronics
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July 19, 2019, 11:44 AM #61
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With the new innovations in class D modules, which actually sound damn impressive as some people in the industry claim, the “active speaker” may indeed be the future dominant trend. It already is according to my local dealer who caters to slightly less than “passionate, exotic audiophile” but an “audiophile none the less” crowd. In his words, “people are findings the sound quality to be more than just “good” and the “clutter-less” approach is met with great enthusiasm by the customer and the wife by his side for their condos and summer homes.
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July 19, 2019, 11:57 AM #62
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Re: Active Speakers - would you consider?
definitely freeing up space in the home has to be in the + column.
Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB, Esoteric N05xd
Mark Levinson #526, 534 & JBL 4367's
Clearaudio Performance DC w/Maestro cart
Clarus Concerto & their Crimson cables
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July 19, 2019, 05:20 PM #63
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Having the guesswork taken out of component matching is the biggest reason i went active and it's probably the biggest reason 'hi-end audiophiles' aren't interested. No 1/2" thick face plates to dress up the listening room.
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July 20, 2019, 06:54 AM #64
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Srajan Ebaen at 6moons had written this article a few years ago on the Goldmund ProLogos Active.
It is an interesting read considering that the future is now
https://6moons.com/audioreviews2/goldmund/1.html
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July 23, 2019, 10:34 PM #65
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Don't know about this. I have not heard yet a class D amp that I liked (or an active speakers running that way). I listen extensively to the Kii (embarrassed to say I bough a pair), it was overall a very disappointing experience. They were not bad, I just couldn't get excited about listening to them.
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July 23, 2019, 10:53 PM #66
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July 23, 2019, 11:15 PM #68
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its not a food fight question. you made contradictory statements in the same paragraph: "overall a very disappointing experience" and "They were not bad"
In over 200 post you mainly (always?) talk about Magico and the one time you comment on the Kii they sucked. Okay Im not an apologist for anything or anyone, I own Kiis and knew going in they weren't going to be my last speaker or my only speaker. Their mid-band transparency and low over-all distortion do remind me a lot of the Magicos I have considerable seat time with.
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July 23, 2019, 11:31 PM #69
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I'm not familiar with KII speakers at all but FWIW, Stereophile review, both listening and measurement wise conclusion was:
"The Kii Audio Three is an outstanding loudspeaker" While I was struck by the transparency of the Kii Threes' soundstaging and transparency, freed as they are from most acoustical influences, the result was somewhat surreal. I found myself groping for explanations that apply more to conventional speakers: What happened to the warmth? Isn't it a bit bright? Is there a midrange suckout? Are the rear-mounted drivers spraying sound out the back to be washed back at me from the front wall?
"There was none of that. The Kii Three didn't just lift a veil away from the music—it removed a heavy cloak."
"As with Dynaudio's Focus 200 XD active loudspeaker, which Jason Victor Serinus reviewed in October 2016, Kii Audio's Three demonstrates that judicious use of DSP in a powered speaker allows a multiway, moving-coil design to offer superb performance in the frequency and time domains—things that are usually mutually exclusive. Other than that rather lively enclosure, which raised my eyebrows, I was impressed by the Kii Three's measured behavior. Very impressed.—John Atkinson
Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content/...EgSXzxRRxID.99
As far as Class D goes, here is what the manufacturers have to say.
Paul McGowan https://youtu.be/wKb3zi6Oo84
Bryston http://www.bryston.com/PDF/newslette...etter_V7_4.pdf
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July 23, 2019, 11:36 PM #70
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July 23, 2019, 11:41 PM #71
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I think they have potential, but so far, they have been demonstrated in a piss poor fashion. In some cases, it was a bloody gong show. Fortunately, now they have a real distributor and I think they truly understand the product. It will be interesting to hear them demo them in the future. I like their new BXT. Cool modular design.
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July 23, 2019, 11:57 PM #72
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Yes, I know, that is why I bought them; the reviews . BTW, I just read the Dutch and Dutch review on SP and, surprise surprise, they went gaga over it, even though JA in his measurements says he couldn't get anything but 48K sampling rate out of their DSP (it will even downsample hires material ). Hard to imagine how that will be a good thing. I learn my lesson, and I do have a bridge to sell if you are interested
BTW, I am not opposing active setups, just not with class D, or at least not yet.
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July 24, 2019, 12:15 AM #73
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July 24, 2019, 08:40 AM #74
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Interesting.
Could your share your process of eliminating the drivers, crossover, dsp, settings, room position, room acoustics, break in, burn in, associated equipment/cabling/wall outlets etc, etc, etc. "synergy"..and determined it was the onboard Class D amps you were dissatisfied with?
TIA.
Btw, I'm not contesting you dissatisfaction with the speakers whatsoever, personal taste based on belief, vision etc, is mere preference. Non contestable.
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July 24, 2019, 10:14 AM #76
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July 24, 2019, 10:30 AM #77
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July 26, 2019, 04:24 PM #79
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http://www.positive-feedback.com/Iss..._audiofest.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=784nZbYAFA4
https://www.dagogo.com/3rd-2012-capital-audio-fest/
The top portion was powered by a Cary tube amp
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July 26, 2019, 06:09 PM #80
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Your high distortion preference is not contestable .., btw Thanks for loaning me your pipe ..!
Got the room dimensions worked out yet or are you folding and running again ..
Lol
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July 26, 2019, 07:33 PM #81
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July 26, 2019, 08:01 PM #82
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Oh no, not at all. But it’s tough to be effective at distribution and retail at the same time (but it can be done). A full-time distributor (perhaps a better choice of words) will be able to push the product more for reviews, be at all the shows (even the small ones), etc.
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July 26, 2019, 08:01 PM #83
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July 26, 2019, 08:05 PM #84
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July 26, 2019, 08:18 PM #85
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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July 26, 2019, 08:26 PM #86
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All distorted.
Truthfully Class A SS wouldn't be my first choice with horns, but different strokes for different smokes...excuse me, folks.
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July 26, 2019, 08:46 PM #87
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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July 27, 2019, 02:54 PM #88
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July 28, 2019, 08:28 AM #89
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My actives have been keeping me up past my bedtime.
KEF Blade, Mc-611's, C49 rega jupiter, roon nucleus, revox tuner. Meridian dsp8000 se upgrade, meridian 218 zone controller VA Beethoven's, Hegel h360.
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July 29, 2019, 02:51 PM #90
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ATC have been leaders in active speakers for decades. That would be my first choice.
BTW, I have never heard a class D amp I would want to own. Some that I've heard are highly regarded.
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July 29, 2019, 06:36 PM #91
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July 29, 2019, 06:43 PM #92
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Understanding sarcasm requires more intelligence beyond your usual internet blab , an obvious miss by the I ...
BTW , you issued a challenge , i accepted , now its all smoke and mirrors and Tap dancing, i’m guessing no way for you to back up your rants ehh , not to worry you got that phase thing all down , what can a passive setup do ...!
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