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    Who still makes SACD players?

    I keep telling the manufacturers, if it doesn’t do SACD, fuhgeddaboudit!

    Who still makes SACD players?

    Luxman
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I keep telling the manufacturers, if it doesn’t do SACD, fuhgeddaboudit!

    Who still makes SACD players?

    Luxman
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    Esoteric
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Marantz, McIntosh, Accuphase

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    EMM Labs
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    MSB too.


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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    MSB too.


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    Speaking of MSB. They are using oppo sacd transports correct?

    What does the future hold ?

    ps audio is going redbook only for their next transport. Partly I think that oppo was the sacd supplier for the dmp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Speaking of MSB. They are using oppo sacd transports correct?

    What does the future hold ?

    ps audio is going redbook only for their next transport. Partly I think that oppo was the sacd supplier for the dmp.
    They amassed quite the stockpile of transports for all future needs.


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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    CH Precision
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Some others-

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    ...ps audio is going redbook only for their next transport. Partly I think that oppo was the sacd supplier for the dmp.
    Unfortunate, since several of the major Japanese companies are making universal players, although I don't know who makes their transports. And it is my understanding that any Bluray transport works for the actual mechanical part of the transport for all optical discs, it's the firmware (chipset) and licensing that determines the disc types read (SACD, CD, DVD-V, DVD-A, Bluray...).
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?


    This little company still makes them today.
    Will most likely be making them tomorrow too.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    I was going to say Yamaha. AJ beat me to it .
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I was going to say Yamaha.
    Low radar signature in the Latest Audio Fashions biosphere, but still around.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    I would say that’s a lot of options


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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    I would say that’s a lot of options


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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    ..ps audio is going redbook only for their next transport..
    Maybe not. They're re-thinking it, back-flipping on their previous CD only announcement.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    All great names, adding these 2 (transports, still need a DAC which both handily supply great ones);

    Wadax Atlantis (CD, XRCD, SACD, DVD-Audiio and Bluray)
    JMF Audio (France, excellent universal transport and DAC, CD, XRCD, SACD, Bluray, not sure about DVD-Audio)

    An even better list of all above would be to also narrow down;

    - those that have to convert SACD DSD to PCM as the DAC is pure PCM
    - those that have dual-mode DAC capabilities either internally or externally to allow PCM to stay PCM and DSD to remain DSD until the DAC layer converts to analog
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Technics

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    I have 2 Oppo BD 95. I would sell.

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    Orpheus
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Although these are not made anymore, they are still around in copious quantities. I have a Sony Playstation 3 that I bought from a friend who had installed the proper software to rip my SACDs into .iso files. I then convert them to .dsf files in stereo and when available mch files to playback through my stereo and mch DACs. I bought an Oppo 105 shortly after Oppo announced it was closing down its production, mostly so I could continue to rip SACDs if and when the PS3 failed. It can play SACDs, but I don't use it for that purpose.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    What is SACD and DMP? So many acronyms and other things to learn when you haven't been into high end audio for 40 years. Trying to get up to speed with all the recent technology but it is indeed a challenge.

    And.....are CD players made within the last 10 years of good sonic quality? I have 2 Yamaha CD players (one for each HT system, upstairs and downstairs) that are about 10 years old but have had very little use. Are these adequate for an audiophile system? About 99% of my CDs have been ripped to iTunes (WAV files) and an external HD. My main source will be streaming so I wasn't planning on adding an expensive CD player to my new system. Should I?

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    If your new integrated amp has a DAC for your streaming, you can use the digital out of the Yamaha into the same DAC to play CD's.

    SACD = Super Audio CD. The discs need the SACD player to play them but the player was backward compatible with regular CD. I can't remember the technical specs, SACD was a higher resolution over a typical CD.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluegrassphile View Post
    What is SACD and DMP? So many acronyms and other things to learn when you haven't been into high end audio for 40 years. Trying to get up to speed with all the recent technology but it is indeed a challenge.

    And.....are CD players made within the last 10 years of good sonic quality? I have 2 Yamaha CD players (one for each HT system, upstairs and downstairs) that are about 10 years old but have had very little use. Are these adequate for an audiophile system? About 99% of my CDs have been ripped to iTunes (WAV files) and an external HD. My main source will be streaming so I wasn't planning on adding an expensive CD player to my new system. Should I?
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    With the new 5101 we can add Mark Levinson, $5500.00 USD
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    PS Audio have just announced they are on the verge of closing a deal with a major SACD optical drive manufacturer for their next edition SACD transport.

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    Who still makes SACD players?

    I can’t see the point of making SACD players anymore. Folks are moving to streaming and one can rip SACDs or get DSD downloads online. Also folks who have a SACD collection already have players. The only SACD players worth owning are those few that let you rip SACDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    I can’t see the point of making SACD players anymore. Folks are moving to streaming and one can rip SACDs or get DSD downloads online. Also folks who have an SACD collection already have players. The only SACD players worth owning are those few that let you rip SACDs.
    I haven’t seen one like this. Can you point me to an example?

    As for CD/SACD players, there are many folks who don’t want to bother with the whole streaming thing. I have a customer with 15,000+ CD’s/SACD’s and he would never do streaming. He first doesn’t think it sounds as good (he’s right) and he likes the physical media and the stuff he listens to is mostly not on Tidal or Qobuz.
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I haven’t seen one like this. Can you point me to an example?
    ....
    The Oppo 103 and Oppo 105 are two examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    The Oppo 103 and Oppo 105 are two examples.
    Oh, I thought SACD player that rips to internal memory. Got it.
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Oh, I thought SACD player that rips to internal memory. Got it.
    Who still makes SACD players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I haven’t seen one like this. Can you point me to an example?

    As for CD/SACD players, there are many folks who don’t want to bother with the whole streaming thing. I have a customer with 15,000+ CD’s/SACD’s and he would never do streaming. He first doesn’t think it sounds as good (he’s right) and he likes the physical media and the stuff he listens to is mostly not on Tidal or Qobuz.
    I have about 12,000 CDs & around 200 SACDs. I ripped all of them to FLAC & DSF. Can't remember the last time I've played a physical disc.


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    Played with the Luxman d06 yesterday, beautiful player.
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Who builds the optical mechanism in the Luxman? It's built in-house, right?

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    The drive/transport mechanism is, but I doubt that the laser subassembly is.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    The drive/transport mechanism is, but I doubt that the laser subassembly is.
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    ""Luxman Disc Transport Mechanism, or LxDTM, designed and built in-house." Stereophile article Dec 2016
    I got that part. I think the piece in question is the laser subassembly.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phishphan View Post
    I have about 12,000 CDs & around 200 SACDs. I ripped all of them to FLAC & DSF. Can't remember the last time I've played a physical disc.
    Same, other then I have many less disks .
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    My main issue with SACD player is that the DAC has to be part of the player due to Sony licensing issues which means you are married to the in-built DAC. PS audio did something especial with their DMP transport which would transmit DSD signal encrypted over I2S (therefore abiding Sony's licensing crap) but that also means you can only play using with their DS DAC.

    A good DSD streamer can give you the freedom to change the DAC at will but a good SACD player can provide simplicity of operation.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    A few companies have done similar things... McIntosh, Esoteric, etc.

    To me the best and easiest solution is to rip my SACDs and play them from my music server. This allows the files to be played using T+A's amazing DSD 1-bit processor instead of Oppo's ESS 9018. Also, and definitely as important the files can then be up-sampled by HQPlayer. In my experience files originally in DSD up-samples are superior to PCM files up-sampled!
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    ..PS audio did something especial with their DMP transport which would transmit DSD signal encrypted over I2S (therefore abiding Sony's licensing crap) but that also means you can only play using with their DS DAC..
    Nothing special about it at all. My Esoteric does the same thing, but it works properly (PS Audio still have some difficulties with their DMP). MSB, dCS and others as well have SACD transports that connect via a cable to a DAC. You're right about the 2 box solutions, they must remain within the brand to transmit the DSD.

    Even though I have the Esoteric Grandioso disc transport spinner, I do find myself more often streaming Spotify than spinning a physical disc.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Nothing special about it at all. My Esoteric does the same thing, but it works properly (PS Audio still have some difficulties with their DMP). MSB, dCS and others as well have SACD transports that connect via a cable to a DAC. You're right about the 2 box solutions, they must remain within the brand to transmit the DSD.
    Yeah, I am sure others have done this before. My point was SACD transport + DAC is a closed door solution which I am not very interested, given how fast DAC technology advances these days.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post

    To me the best and easiest solution is to rip my SACDs and play them from my music server. This allows the files to be played using T+A's amazing DSD 1-bit processor instead of Oppo's ESS 9018. Also, and definitely as important the files can then be up-sampled by HQPlayer. In my experience files originally in DSD up-samples are superior to PCM files up-sampled!
    The up-sampling is very very much dependent on the design of the DAC, especially their choice of clock and pll's. T+A is a very good example of up-sampling and so are others, like the Holo Audio. I have 3 DACs out of which two are capable to playing native DSD1024. Up-sampling to none of them makes the sounds better - its just sounds slightly different.

    For my preference, I don't like DACs who like to feed them with up-sampled bit stream since it puts enormous requirements on a general purpose PC (the only h/w that is capable of up-sampling at higher bit rates) - the more the power, the bigger the noise generated. This is the reason why commercial music servers like SGM (capable of up-sampling to DSD512) has gotten to great lengths in isolating and eliminating noise, needless to say it also comes at a big cost!

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    ...My point was SACD transport + DAC is a closed door solution which I am not very interested...
    Not as closed door as a SACD player...you're locked in to the in-built DAC with the player. At least with the 2 box solution you can upgrade your DAC hardware over time without needing to upgrade the transport.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Not as closed door as a SACD player...you're locked in to the in-built DAC with the player. At least with the 2 box solution you can upgrade your DAC hardware over time without needing to upgrade the transport.
    true but you can only upgrade the DAC h/w from the same manufacturer (if and at all an upgrade is available) in order to use the SACD transport. If you think about it, they aren't that much different from a SACD player...

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    But at least you have the option to upgrade, you can't do that with a standalone player. For example, I can upgrade from Esoteric Grandioso D1 DAC to Grandioso D1X DAC and still use the same Grandioso P1 SACD transport.

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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    But at least you have the option to upgrade, you can't do that with a standalone player.
    Why ? What's the issue with upgrading the SACD player itself ? if you upgrade the player, not only you get the an upgraded DAC but also an upgraded transport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    The up-sampling is very very much dependent on the design of the DAC, especially their choice of clock and pll's. T+A is a very good example of up-sampling and so are others, like the Holo Audio. I have 3 DACs out of which two are capable to playing native DSD1024. Up-sampling to none of them makes the sounds better - its just sounds slightly different.

    For my preference, I don't like DACs who like to feed them with up-sampled bit stream since it puts enormous requirements on a general purpose PC (the only h/w that is capable of up-sampling at higher bit rates) - the more the power, the bigger the noise generated. This is the reason why commercial music servers like SGM (capable of up-sampling to DSD512) has gotten to great lengths in isolating and eliminating noise, needless to say it also comes at a big cost!

    Of course it is very much a personal preference. For me a PC is ideal. In essence products such as SGM are PCs designed to work as an audio component. Yes, they really concentrate on low noise, etc. I have nothing but good things to say about these companies, and if you do not like working with computers and have money to spare they are solid choices. However, a very capable computer can be had for give or take $2000, therefore a fraction of items such as SGM.

    Lets compare:

    SGM server for about $18,000 -vs- my new Falcon for about $2400

    Software: HQPlayer and Roon -vs- HQPlayer and Roon
    CPU: Intel i7 7700 4 core 4.2 GHz max turbo speed -vs- Intel i7 9700 8 core 4.9 GHz max turbo speed
    RAM: 16 GB DDR4 with heat sinks -vs- 16 GB DDR4 with heat sinks
    OS: Windows 10 -vs- Windows 10
    Storage: Optional 1 TB SSD -vs- included 2x 1 TB M.2
    Power: Low noise internal computer power supply -vs- Low noise Gold level internal computer power supply
    Case: custom metal case -vs- custom metal case
    CPU Cooling: Heat pipe cooling system -vs- liquid cooling system

    As you can see, more similarities then differences. The SGM looks like a great machine and certainly looks more like an audio component then my Falcon computer. I think it is a great choice for someone looking for a very nice pre-built music server. I assume that SGM can update the CPU they use to the new i7 9700. I would think this is critical because in my test I have verified that HQPlayer does indeed use all 8 cores that my CPU has, and it also does turbo the CPU up to about 4.6 GHz speed! CPU use is the single largest factor for HQPlayer according to test I have ran, followed by hard drive access. M.2 drives are vastly faster than SSD, although both are vastly better then HDD for speed, no noise, and no heat.

    I know this has varied off the original discussion and I apologies and will not go down this path further. I simply wanted to address a topic that was brought up.
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    Re: Who still makes SACD players?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post

    This little company still makes them today.
    Will most likely be making them tomorrow too.
    so, anyone with firsthand experience with the CD-S2100 ??
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    so, anyone with firsthand experience with the CD-S2100 ??
    The CDS-2100 was bought as a spare in case an Accuphase DP -720 ever needed service. Comparing the two, the 720 blows it out of the water, although should try to use the digital out into the DAC and try again. The Yamaha misses out on soundstage and quite a bit of detail is missing, it’s not as enjoyable and engaging as the Accuphase product, for a tenth of the price though, it’s far better than any Sony BD or Oppo player. The Yamaha is in storage for a year, should power it on again and let it wake up.

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