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June 29, 2019, 01:09 PM #1
Who still makes SACD players?
I keep telling the manufacturers, if it doesn’t do SACD, fuhgeddaboudit!
Who still makes SACD players?
Luxman
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June 29, 2019, 01:19 PM #2
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June 29, 2019, 01:42 PM #3
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June 29, 2019, 02:29 PM #4
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EMM Labs
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June 29, 2019, 02:44 PM #5
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MSB too.
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June 29, 2019, 03:19 PM #7
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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June 29, 2019, 03:27 PM #8
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June 29, 2019, 04:35 PM #9
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Some others-
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June 29, 2019, 06:00 PM #10
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Unfortunate, since several of the major Japanese companies are making universal players, although I don't know who makes their transports. And it is my understanding that any Bluray transport works for the actual mechanical part of the transport for all optical discs, it's the firmware (chipset) and licensing that determines the disc types read (SACD, CD, DVD-V, DVD-A, Bluray...).
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June 29, 2019, 06:26 PM #11
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This little company still makes them today.
Will most likely be making them tomorrow too.
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June 29, 2019, 06:37 PM #12
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I was going to say Yamaha. AJ beat me to it .
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June 29, 2019, 06:49 PM #13
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June 29, 2019, 08:08 PM #14
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Sony
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June 29, 2019, 09:43 PM #15
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I would say that’s a lot of options
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June 30, 2019, 09:26 AM #16
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July 21, 2019, 08:29 AM #18
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All great names, adding these 2 (transports, still need a DAC which both handily supply great ones);
Wadax Atlantis (CD, XRCD, SACD, DVD-Audiio and Bluray)
JMF Audio (France, excellent universal transport and DAC, CD, XRCD, SACD, Bluray, not sure about DVD-Audio)
An even better list of all above would be to also narrow down;
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July 21, 2019, 02:03 PM #19
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Technics
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July 21, 2019, 09:36 PM #20
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I have 2 Oppo BD 95. I would sell.
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July 22, 2019, 02:56 PM #22
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Although these are not made anymore, they are still around in copious quantities. I have a Sony Playstation 3 that I bought from a friend who had installed the proper software to rip my SACDs into .iso files. I then convert them to .dsf files in stereo and when available mch files to playback through my stereo and mch DACs. I bought an Oppo 105 shortly after Oppo announced it was closing down its production, mostly so I could continue to rip SACDs if and when the PS3 failed. It can play SACDs, but I don't use it for that purpose.
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What is SACD and DMP? So many acronyms and other things to learn when you haven't been into high end audio for 40 years. Trying to get up to speed with all the recent technology but it is indeed a challenge.
And.....are CD players made within the last 10 years of good sonic quality? I have 2 Yamaha CD players (one for each HT system, upstairs and downstairs) that are about 10 years old but have had very little use. Are these adequate for an audiophile system? About 99% of my CDs have been ripped to iTunes (WAV files) and an external HD. My main source will be streaming so I wasn't planning on adding an expensive CD player to my new system. Should I?
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If your new integrated amp has a DAC for your streaming, you can use the digital out of the Yamaha into the same DAC to play CD's.
SACD = Super Audio CD. The discs need the SACD player to play them but the player was backward compatible with regular CD. I can't remember the technical specs, SACD was a higher resolution over a typical CD.
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With the new 5101 we can add Mark Levinson, $5500.00 USD
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PS Audio have just announced they are on the verge of closing a deal with a major SACD optical drive manufacturer for their next edition SACD transport.
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I can’t see the point of making SACD players anymore. Folks are moving to streaming and one can rip SACDs or get DSD downloads online. Also folks who have a SACD collection already have players. The only SACD players worth owning are those few that let you rip SACDs.
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August 26, 2019, 06:48 PM #28
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I haven’t seen one like this. Can you point me to an example?
As for CD/SACD players, there are many folks who don’t want to bother with the whole streaming thing. I have a customer with 15,000+ CD’s/SACD’s and he would never do streaming. He first doesn’t think it sounds as good (he’s right) and he likes the physical media and the stuff he listens to is mostly not on Tidal or Qobuz.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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August 26, 2019, 07:18 PM #30
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November 16, 2019, 06:46 PM #32
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November 17, 2019, 08:30 AM #33
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Played with the Luxman d06 yesterday, beautiful player.
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Who builds the optical mechanism in the Luxman? It's built in-house, right?
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The drive/transport mechanism is, but I doubt that the laser subassembly is.
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November 17, 2019, 10:48 AM #36
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My main issue with SACD player is that the DAC has to be part of the player due to Sony licensing issues which means you are married to the in-built DAC. PS audio did something especial with their DMP transport which would transmit DSD signal encrypted over I2S (therefore abiding Sony's licensing crap) but that also means you can only play using with their DS DAC.
A good DSD streamer can give you the freedom to change the DAC at will but a good SACD player can provide simplicity of operation.
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November 17, 2019, 09:00 PM #40
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A few companies have done similar things... McIntosh, Esoteric, etc.
To me the best and easiest solution is to rip my SACDs and play them from my music server. This allows the files to be played using T+A's amazing DSD 1-bit processor instead of Oppo's ESS 9018. Also, and definitely as important the files can then be up-sampled by HQPlayer. In my experience files originally in DSD up-samples are superior to PCM files up-sampled!McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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Nothing special about it at all. My Esoteric does the same thing, but it works properly (PS Audio still have some difficulties with their DMP). MSB, dCS and others as well have SACD transports that connect via a cable to a DAC. You're right about the 2 box solutions, they must remain within the brand to transmit the DSD.
Even though I have the Esoteric Grandioso disc transport spinner, I do find myself more often streaming Spotify than spinning a physical disc.
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The up-sampling is very very much dependent on the design of the DAC, especially their choice of clock and pll's. T+A is a very good example of up-sampling and so are others, like the Holo Audio. I have 3 DACs out of which two are capable to playing native DSD1024. Up-sampling to none of them makes the sounds better - its just sounds slightly different.
For my preference, I don't like DACs who like to feed them with up-sampled bit stream since it puts enormous requirements on a general purpose PC (the only h/w that is capable of up-sampling at higher bit rates) - the more the power, the bigger the noise generated. This is the reason why commercial music servers like SGM (capable of up-sampling to DSD512) has gotten to great lengths in isolating and eliminating noise, needless to say it also comes at a big cost!
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But at least you have the option to upgrade, you can't do that with a standalone player. For example, I can upgrade from Esoteric Grandioso D1 DAC to Grandioso D1X DAC and still use the same Grandioso P1 SACD transport.
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November 18, 2019, 12:11 PM #48
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Of course it is very much a personal preference. For me a PC is ideal. In essence products such as SGM are PCs designed to work as an audio component. Yes, they really concentrate on low noise, etc. I have nothing but good things to say about these companies, and if you do not like working with computers and have money to spare they are solid choices. However, a very capable computer can be had for give or take $2000, therefore a fraction of items such as SGM.
Lets compare:
SGM server for about $18,000 -vs- my new Falcon for about $2400
Software: HQPlayer and Roon -vs- HQPlayer and Roon
CPU: Intel i7 7700 4 core 4.2 GHz max turbo speed -vs- Intel i7 9700 8 core 4.9 GHz max turbo speed
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Storage: Optional 1 TB SSD -vs- included 2x 1 TB M.2
Power: Low noise internal computer power supply -vs- Low noise Gold level internal computer power supply
Case: custom metal case -vs- custom metal case
CPU Cooling: Heat pipe cooling system -vs- liquid cooling system
As you can see, more similarities then differences. The SGM looks like a great machine and certainly looks more like an audio component then my Falcon computer. I think it is a great choice for someone looking for a very nice pre-built music server. I assume that SGM can update the CPU they use to the new i7 9700. I would think this is critical because in my test I have verified that HQPlayer does indeed use all 8 cores that my CPU has, and it also does turbo the CPU up to about 4.6 GHz speed! CPU use is the single largest factor for HQPlayer according to test I have ran, followed by hard drive access. M.2 drives are vastly faster than SSD, although both are vastly better then HDD for speed, no noise, and no heat.
I know this has varied off the original discussion and I apologies and will not go down this path further. I simply wanted to address a topic that was brought up.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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Re: Who still makes SACD players?
The CDS-2100 was bought as a spare in case an Accuphase DP -720 ever needed service. Comparing the two, the 720 blows it out of the water, although should try to use the digital out into the DAC and try again. The Yamaha misses out on soundstage and quite a bit of detail is missing, it’s not as enjoyable and engaging as the Accuphase product, for a tenth of the price though, it’s far better than any Sony BD or Oppo player. The Yamaha is in storage for a year, should power it on again and let it wake up.
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