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    I am just starting my search for new speakers. I bought a pair of PSB T3's to replace my Magnepan 1.6's. The T3's aren't doing it for me. I am looking at speakers in the $6K-$9K range. Locally, there are not a lot to choose from- B&W, Martin Logan, Magnepan, Paradigm, Dyn Audio, Golden Ear, Focal, KEF for the most part. I will be going to RMAF in September, so I hope to hear many other speaker brands to help me decide.

    My room is 17'x17' with 9' ceilings.

    I have not heard these speakers but have been reading about the B&W 804 D3's, the new 2019 Monitor Audio Gold 300's and the Revel F228be's. I like a deep and rich sounding mid range with good air and transparency. I am sensitive to brightness. Just curious if any one has heard these and their thoughts on them.

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    Re: Speaker opinions

    This is exactly why I picked up B&W. Price points like this. You know my thoughts.


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    Re: Speaker opinions

    Dynaudios are easy going, try some Countour models.
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    2. JRiver - Burson Conductor V2+ - Audeze LCD-XC - Calyx Femti - Monitor Audio PL100
    3. JRiver - SMSL iDEA - 1More Triple Driver IEM

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    Larry - Your room and amp would be adequate for Magnepan 3.7is (assuming you still like the sound). If you can fin a pair of mint used Revel Salon or Studio 2s, they would work well in your room. Also, recently listened to Pure Audio Project at AXPONA - sounded terrific and very reasonable.

    Very difficult to set up a square room. It can be done but patience and some room treatment will be needed.

    BTW, what kind of music do you like?

    Lastly, a great investment for you to attend RMAF.
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    Mike, I figured you would be a B&W fan. I am going to give them a listen. I am going to haul all my gear over to the local dealer.

    Dyn Audio are high on my list. The local dealer is expecting the new models in soon.

    Ritmo, I would love to have the 3.7i's but my wife is tired of having door panels for speakers, hence my dilemma.

    I listen to most genre's of music- acoustic, vocal, jazz, blues and 60's, 70's and 80's RR with some occasional classical mixed in.

    I love the sound of Harbeth's but damn they are ugly and my wife already nixed them. I should just move everything down to my basement and then the WAF would not be a factor but damn it is cold down there in the MN winters.

    If I can't find anything to my liking, I may just get the 1.7'i's and upgrade my preamp to an Atma-Sphere MP-3 MK3.3 with the teflon Vcaps and maybe my DAC.
    My Gear- Mains System-Pass X250 amp, BAT VK-51se preamp, Luxman DA-06 DAC, Magnepan 1.6's, Thorens TD-145 TT, Dual Martin Logan Subs, Vintage Luxman T-110 Tuner, Other systems- Parasound A21 amp,Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid tube DAC and Preamp, Magnepan MMG's, Monitor Audio S1's, PSB B6's, Def Tech Pro Monitor 1000's, Velodyne sub, Adcom GFR-700 AVR, Music Hall 25.2 modified CDP, Cables by Cardas Parsec, AQ Columbia DBS 72v, Wire World.

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    Re: Speaker opinions

    Either of your choices are excellent.


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    I second Dynaudio. When I bought my 82s, I went head to head with the comparable B&Ws and liked the tweeter of the Dyns better. No fatigue.

    The higher models are just that much better. Good luck with your search and selection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    I second Dynaudio. When I bought my 82s, I went head to head with the comparable B&Ws and liked the tweeter of the Dyns better. No fatigue.

    The higher models are just that much better. Good luck with your search and selection.
    I find no fatigue if properly setup (little to no toe in). Sadly, too many dealers don’t read the manual, do the training, etc and just set them up with the tweeters pointed right at the listeners ears. They’re not designed for that.

    We are listening to the 702 S2’s this morning at B&W dealer training and they are insanely good for $4500/pair.

    I like the DynAudio’s too. Both are great in that price range.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I find no fatigue if properly setup (little to no toe in). Sadly, too many dealers don’t read the manual, do the training, etc and just set them up with the tweeters pointed right at the listeners ears. They’re not designed for that.

    We are listening to the 702 S2’s this morning at B&W dealer training and they are insanely good for $4500/pair.

    I like the DynAudio’s too. Both are great in that price range.


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    It's been too long for me to remember the exact B&W model but they were the same price as the 82s when I decided on the Dyns. Monkey Coffin with Cyclops Eye
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    Thanks guys. It should be a fun adventure.

    Mike, how do the 702 S2's compare to the the 804 D3's?
    My Gear- Mains System-Pass X250 amp, BAT VK-51se preamp, Luxman DA-06 DAC, Magnepan 1.6's, Thorens TD-145 TT, Dual Martin Logan Subs, Vintage Luxman T-110 Tuner, Other systems- Parasound A21 amp,Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid tube DAC and Preamp, Magnepan MMG's, Monitor Audio S1's, PSB B6's, Def Tech Pro Monitor 1000's, Velodyne sub, Adcom GFR-700 AVR, Music Hall 25.2 modified CDP, Cables by Cardas Parsec, AQ Columbia DBS 72v, Wire World.

 

 
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