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Thread: Top brands that have no respect
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July 7, 2019, 08:21 AM #101
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Kondo
Yamaha
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Pureaudio
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July 7, 2019, 09:32 AM #1022chl : Vincent Sp331MkII, W4S STP-SE Stage 2, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, Quicksilver Headamp, HD650, HD800s, HD820's, Dan Clark 1.1, Focal Stellia, OPPO 203, 105. ( Boxed up: Pass Xa-30.5, VPI Classic, Dynavector DV-20XL, Manley Chinook, Cadenza Bronze)
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July 7, 2019, 10:37 AM #103
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Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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July 8, 2019, 01:38 PM #104
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More from Japan deserving of some chatter:
47 Laboratory: (their Midnight Blue series is incredible).
Sparkler Audio, the S301B diva: these speakers sound belie their size, specs, and visuals...
Both companies products are handmade and exude the craftsmanship and simplicity.
European goodies:
Piega SA: their speakers, especially the TMicro series are incredible bargains...
ASW out of Germany: their “budget” speaker line (Genius) is/was a super bargain.
Canada:
Reference 3A, specifically the Dulcet, another gem of quality and sound.
Thanks for checking this out.
Cheers.
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My goodies, changes again, Still modest, but effective...(at least on my level).
47 Laboratory Midnight Blue 4733, Audiolab 6000CDT, OPPO BDP103, iFi Zen Blue, Sparkler Audio S301B diva. Cabling: RCA, Linn Blacks,
47 Laboratory 4708 speaker cables. Morrow Audio DIG3 w/KLE Pure Harmony connectors. DH Labs Red Wave A/C power (for the 4733) Yep,that's it. My aim is high, but sometimes I forget to wear my glasses...
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July 8, 2019, 02:16 PM #105
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Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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July 8, 2019, 05:30 PM #106
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Nice...
My goodies, changes again, Still modest, but effective...(at least on my level).
47 Laboratory Midnight Blue 4733, Audiolab 6000CDT, OPPO BDP103, iFi Zen Blue, Sparkler Audio S301B diva. Cabling: RCA, Linn Blacks,
47 Laboratory 4708 speaker cables. Morrow Audio DIG3 w/KLE Pure Harmony connectors. DH Labs Red Wave A/C power (for the 4733) Yep,that's it. My aim is high, but sometimes I forget to wear my glasses...
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November 2, 2023, 06:22 AM #107
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ProAc Speakers, especially the D48Rs and K6 Signatures.
Kubala-Sosna Inter Connect, Spealer and Power Cables.Audio Research Reference 6 SE Preamplifier, Pass Labs X-350.8 Amplifier, Audio Research Reference 9 SE CD Player, Aurender N30 SA Music Server, EMM Labs DA2 V@ DAC, PS Audio P-12 Regenerator, Kubala-Sosna Sensation Power Cords ,USB Cable, Interconnect Cables and Speaker Cables
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November 2, 2023, 10:50 PM #108
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Polk. I have heard the L800's and they are killer speakers for the price.
Source: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
Cartridges: Lyra Atlas Lambda SL, Lyra Etna SL, Lyra Delos, Dynavector XV-1s,Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon ESC'd 103R, DL-S1, Audio Technica AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
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Preamp: D'Agostino HD, conrad johnson GAT,
Amps: conrad johnson teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum S250
Speakers: Wilson Maxx3
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November 3, 2023, 10:31 PM #109
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Wilson Benesch - advanced technology; positive comments in the press and from users, but distribution in the US appears to be limited.
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November 3, 2023, 11:16 PM #110
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Why even worry about it?
At the end of the day, all that matters is that each person's preferences/needs/requirements are equally valid.
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November 4, 2023, 08:50 AM #111
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Not worried about it, but I do consider it because it will affect resale value when I consider upgrading.
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November 8, 2023, 11:13 PM #112
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Top brands that get no respect on the used market are the only way many of us will get to experience those products. T&A, Chord, Tidal, Kharma, etc beautiful products even dealers struggle to invest in are really difficult for any non 1% income bracket to justify. I recently Listened to a pair of $65k estilon's driven by an MSB amp and after talking to the shop owner awhile he inferred (correctly) it wouldn't help his pitch to tell me how much the MSB amp cost.
There's a pretty strong online movement seemingly trying to convince the world a pair of f208 or R11's paired with a benchmark amp is as good as it gets and everything else is snake oil, speaking of no respect.KEF Blade, Mc-611's, C49 rega jupiter, roon nucleus, revox tuner. Meridian dsp8000 se upgrade, meridian 218 zone controller VA Beethoven's, Hegel h360.
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November 9, 2023, 02:40 PM #113Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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January 4, 2024, 10:49 PM #114
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HiDiamond - incredibly built to excessive specs and best-sounding cables I’ve had in every position I’ve tried them in, except, oddly, speaker
Zu (cables and power) - best speaker cables I’ve had, and solid PCs, good people to deal with
Aerial - the 7Bs were made like a tank and sounded fantastic. they looked dated and I simply couldn’t move them around anymore, or I might still have them
Audio Note - most natural-sounding, incredibly musical DAC I’ve heard. Individual instruments and vocals sound as I know them to be for real, soundstage is excellent. I don’t use mine anymore b/c the DAC chip of the one I bought years ago is limited to redbook, and sadly it sits on a shelf b/c somehow I’m loathe to part with it. But imo the SQ of this DAC has been unbeatable. I put this on the same level as my Boulder amp, as the 2 best components I’ve owned.Main System
Lumin X1 > Boulder 1161 > Scansonic MB3.5 B
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Home: HiFiMan Susvara > Schiit Lyr+
Portable: Focal Radiance > AQ Dragonfly Cobalt / Chord Hugo 2
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January 5, 2024, 12:19 AM #115
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We have some users with Audio Note DAC. You can use it with Lumin even for Hi-Res streaming or DSD files.
With X1, connect a 1.5m BNC to RCA coaxial cable from X1 to the DAC.
In X1 settings, change output to SPDIF. Set SPDIF Re-sampling setting as follows:
DSD / 352.8 / 176.4k / 88.2kHz - > 44.1kHz
384 / 192 -> 96kHz
(The X1 SPDIF resampling settings are distinct from X1 Analog output resampling settings, so don't worry about it affecting X1 analog output.)
If you do not use a preamp, be careful with volume adjustment before playing anything, and power off the amp before you make any connection change.Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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January 6, 2024, 02:57 AM #116
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Kubala Sosna Interconnect and Speaker Cables
Audio Research Reference 6 SE Preamplifier, Pass Labs X-350.8 Amplifier, Audio Research Reference 9 SE CD Player, Aurender N30 SA Music Server, EMM Labs DA2 V@ DAC, PS Audio P-12 Regenerator, Kubala-Sosna Sensation Power Cords ,USB Cable, Interconnect Cables and Speaker Cables
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January 6, 2024, 08:46 AM #117
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"We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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January 6, 2024, 10:18 AM #118
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You should listen to your inner self and try putting your beloved Audio Note DAC back in your system and give it another listen. Are you really hearing 'better' sound with your 'hi-rez' DAC over your Audio Note? The implicit bias is that hi-rez files must sound better than 16/44.1 RBCD.
I find that 99% of my streaming is listening to 16/44.1 files because I simply find them better sounding than the majority of hi-rez files. Far too many hi-rez files sound like they have had the life sucked out of them compared to the 16/44.1 files. If one automatically assumes hi-rez files have to sound better than 16/44.1 without comparing back-to-back, you will never know.Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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January 6, 2024, 12:25 PM #119
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January 6, 2024, 12:30 PM #120
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Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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January 6, 2024, 12:36 PM #121
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Burmester is a brand that you dont see a lot of owners of, IMO it some of the best out there
Burmester 911mk3 amplifier
Burmester 077 pre-amp
Burmester 217 turntable system
Burmester 111 streamer
Burmester 948 conditioner
Master Artist Signature Full Range Towers
Master Artist Signature Rack
Espirit Eureka cables
Silent Angel NX Network Switch
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January 6, 2024, 12:45 PM #122
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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January 6, 2024, 12:47 PM #123
Top brands that have no respect
Online downloadable/purchasable music sites were a driving force. Take the 16/44 file, upsample it with compression.
Again, saw it with my own eyes.
That being said, the 24/96 file was most commonly the “master” and that was upsampled to 24/192 and subsequently charged out at a higher price.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProMy Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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January 6, 2024, 12:59 PM #124
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If memory serves me, I also read from a prominent audio site that claimed that some vinyl releases applied distinctly less compression than the equivalent digital version released at the same time, because the latter is meant for listening with your phone.
Peter Lie
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January 6, 2024, 01:43 PM #125
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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January 7, 2024, 05:38 AM #126
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Does upsampling of audiophiles makes sense in all cases, and let improve sound quality?
Fact is: upsampling does not add new information, it is like a photo picture, make it 2 times as big, and you donÂ’t get more pixels. With some software like photoshop it is possible to sharpen the picture, the new added pixels are all theoretical and artificial. With upsampling in audio the same: new bits are mathematically added, there is no new info.
When I visited an audio show, 2 technicians disagreed a bit about if upsampling is good or not, at another room, no discussion sadly.
The one said that adding new bits does give a better sound. Not because new info is added, but because the reconstruction filter in the dac could handle those high sample frequencies better giving a better analog signal as result.
The other one made very high quality non oversampling dacs, saying that those dacs are very good nos and donÂ’t need any upsampling at all. Think he is right about this, this set was one of the best sounding audiosets in the whole show, it was unbelievable good.
Half year ago, I acquired a new cd player, with all old philips running gear and lasers inside. Although the sound is limited to cd quality I wished that my streaming was that good. Currently my cd player wins on SQ
These are the reasons I have some doubts about upsampling: the experts donÂ’t agree and more important cd quality can sound very good. It might be that at the end upsampling does get a better result, but with my stuff I think that these high sample rates are not audible.
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January 7, 2024, 12:58 PM #127
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Whether upsampling improves sound quality depends on the DAC and user preferences, but this should be a choice of the user. You don't need the experts to agree on that in the same sense that you don't need the world to agree on the best cable. You just pick what sounds good to you.
Note that upsampling as a user choice from your hardware or software player is a different issue from getting a fake upsampled version of an album, which again is different from getting a real Hi-Res recording (or conversion from analog master tape) of an album, which again is a different issue from discussing whether real Hi-Res necessarily sounds better than ripped or streamed CD. These are also separate issues from whether you prefer the SQ from a CD player or from a streaming setup - you can have different SQ from the CD vs streaming the same CD due to the different hardware setup even if the CD and streaming have the same bits.Peter Lie
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January 7, 2024, 02:10 PM #128
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lol, nice way to take over a thread
Burmester 911mk3 amplifier
Burmester 077 pre-amp
Burmester 217 turntable system
Burmester 111 streamer
Burmester 948 conditioner
Master Artist Signature Full Range Towers
Master Artist Signature Rack
Espirit Eureka cables
Silent Angel NX Network Switch
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January 9, 2024, 05:24 PM #129
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January 10, 2024, 08:20 PM #130
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I will mention Ayon, although I get the feeling there isn't much love for the national dealer. The other one is VTL, i have had a few of their amps and they have been very good.
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January 10, 2024, 08:49 PM #131
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Ayon i can agree , but VTL ? They are well known and respected ...
Regards* An Audiophile is only as old as his latest Class D incarnation *
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January 10, 2024, 09:13 PM #132
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Why worry about it? Listen to what you like...that is all that matters.
Here's some helpful quotes from our good buddy and advocate of the philosophy of Stoicism, Marcus Aurelius:
"It never ceases to amaze me: we all love ourselves more than other people but care more about their opinion than our own."
and....
“Tranquility…comes when you stop caring what others say. Or think, or do. Only what you do.”
Life's to short to be worrying about all this, or trying to count the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. IMHO, it's much more important to make EVERY day...COUNT.
So, with that mind, do something that provides you with...fulfillment.
I'm a big fan of Marcus. I also like the quote from Hans Beekhuizen: "Enjoy the music."
Hans and Marcus have their priorities right...👍Ĥѱ = 𝐸ѱ
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January 10, 2024, 10:13 PM #133
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My 1st tube amp was a little VTL, I think it was 12wpc or so? I had never heard midrange like that before, it was crazy good.
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