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5 best power amps for $5000 to $12,500...including integrated.
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Re: 5 best power amps for $5000 to $12,500...including integrated.
Keep in mind "best" is so subjective. Here's a few I would consider and there are things I haven't had much exposure to, so don't worry if you don't see Luxman on my list,
Power amps:
Bryston 4b cubed
Pass X250 or 350.8
I would include my Levinson 532h as I can't think of anything in that range I'd trade for, on the other hand it doesn't hold it's resale value like other Levinson amps, so I would add, if buying at a good deal.
I suspect something from Conrad Johnson or VTL would go on this list if I knew pricing. Also, in tube Octave Audio has a stunning power amp that was around $10k.
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Integrated:
Hegel 590
VAC
At only $3500.00 I sure did like the Triode of Japan
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Used Gyphon Diablo 300.
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Rowen Absolute One! A pair of these will deliver nearly 4KW into 0.5 ohms.
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Re: 5 best power amps for $5000 to $12,500...including integrated.
What is meant by 'best'?
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June 4, 2019, 05:16 PM #7Senior Member
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The opposite of 'worst'
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June 4, 2019, 05:25 PM #8Senior Member
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I voted with my wallet. Hegel H360 $6000 list.
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June 5, 2019, 09:19 AM #9Senior Member
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Re: 5 best power amps for $5000 to $12,500...including integrated.
Originally Posted by atmasphere
The gooderest.
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In this range I would think that the Audio Mirror SET 45 have to be considered. It depends on your speakers and listening habits, but my 89db KEFs work very well with these amps. They are rated at 45 watts per amp, which some may think is low, but for SET this is very much on the high end. However, they have dynamic power at over 100 watts per amp.
As The Absolute Sound wrote, at $10,000 these would receive their top rating and be considered a must listen to amp, at their price they are a steal. Add some nice NOS tubes for rolling and you have a killer combo, very easily in your range.
Other brands I would consider in this range:
T+A
Audio Research
McIntosh
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June 5, 2019, 11:40 AM #11Senior Member
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Well, IME the best amps have the best imaging and detail without the coloration of brightness and harshness, and for that you need tubes. I've only heard two solid state amps that really brought home the bacon in that regard, one is the re-imagined Sony V-FET (SIT) amp designed by Nelson Pass, which was only available in kit form. SITs have linearity and soft clipping similar to triodes (and have become rare, long out of production); a pity that Sony has been so intent on shooting their foot over the decades... The other is a class D prototype.
Our M-60 amplifier makes the list- its been the benchmark that other amps have had to beat. So far the SIT kit and that prototype have been the only ones that could keep up.
Bandwidth is simply not a thing, since tubes and solid state can have very similar bandwidth. I do find though that its harder to get solid state to have good resolution in the bass- you get get punch but less body and detail of the instrument. The two amps I mentioned above do that bit quite well.
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June 5, 2019, 11:59 AM #12Senior Member
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What is it about Minnesota... tube amp companies congregating there....
Audio Research
Atma-Sphere
Audio Mirror
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June 5, 2019, 12:05 PM #13Senior Member
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AVA DVA 850 Mono block tube-ss hybrids should be in this group. These mono's are a hidden gem.
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Arctic cold weather would be my guess. Free Cryo processing of all components. Originally Posted by Randy Myers
What is it about Minnesota... tube amp companies congregating there....
Audio Research
Atma-Sphere
Audio Mirror
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June 5, 2019, 12:33 PM #15Senior Member
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Yea, I was thinking a good way to generate some badly needed heat Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield
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I'll add the Accuphase E-480 to the mix.
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Best absolute sound -
Art Audio Diavolo 300B Copper Reference is the most musical amp I have ever heard and the balance of Art Audio's line is pretty special
Musical Fidelity M8 700s are phenomenal if you need lots of power and the Nu-Vista line is pretty special.
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Aw... we just like good sound Originally Posted by Randy Myers
What is it about Minnesota... tube amp companies congregating there....
Audio Research
Atma-Sphere
Audio Mirror
any others?
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Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining.
Originally Posted by VerdantAudio
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Accuphase E-480
Accuphase E-650
Soulution 330
and probably many more.
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Does my Conrad-Johnson LP70S count? Originally sold for $7500.
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What prototype or concept is it? Originally Posted by atmasphere
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zero feedback employing a patent pending output section. No deadtime circuitry. Originally Posted by woodchamber
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Audio Research REF75SE should be included in the list.
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I like my McCormack DNA500, it makes my Apogees sing beautifully (and can actually drive them unlike many others).
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McIntosh MC 462
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Of all the ones I've heard, an older version of the Herron Audio monos. I suspect the latest revision M2 monos are even better.
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Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining.
Herron is awesome gear!Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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NAD C 658 streamer.
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Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
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Thank you Joe. This group was recommended by Jim Smith and I'm really liking it so far. I miss my Avantgarde Duos.
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So happy that you are enjoying everything.
My Duos are absolutely wonderful. I'm very lucky.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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I use a Pass XA25.
This replaced elderly but truly fine VAC 300B amps.
My speakers are Rockport Atria 2s, Tortuga passive pre, Esoteric SACD, Sutherland duo phono, Koetsu Black.
Sound is glorious, ticks every high end box, then you ignore that stuff and disappear into the music.
i would not recommend the Pass with bright speakers as it passes everything unedited.
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Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining.
Love the Pass XA25. It's a superb amp.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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Herron M2 mono blocks and Coda Continuum No. 8 stereo amplifier. Nothing else I've heard in that price range comes to mind.
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You left out Audio by Van Alstine - another tube based designer in Minnesota. Originally Posted by atmasphere
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