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    Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    Hey guys,
    I've been evaluating dfiferent Ethernet cables from my downstream FMC to my streamer for the last week or so to determine which Ethernet cable I want to live with in my system in the long term. The cables I've been evaluating by subjective listening tests are Audioquest Cinnamon, AQ Vodka and Wireworld Starlight Cat 8, and in a week or so, Supra Cat8.

    I posted my impressions on Steve Hoffman forums, which, quite predictably, generated a very large degree of flak/noise/BS/insults from all the "cable objectivists" regarding my comments about the audio qualities of different Ethernet cables.

    So, in this case, I'm asking FIRST if folks are sincerely interested in my strictly subjective listening impressions of using Ethernet cables in a streaming setup. NOTE: This will NOT be a scientific-based comparison, ABX-testing, randomized double-blind study with placebos, or anything of that type. There will be no math or equations characterizing VP/frequency or inductance down a cable at RF. This is just me listenin' to some Ethernet cables. Nothing more.

    So. If there are folks who are truly interested in this topic, I'm happy to post my notes and impressions.

    HOWEVER: if there are folks who simply cannot resist themselves and feel compelled to crap all over another "cable thread", particularly a thread about Ethernet cables (YOIKS! likely the most contentious class of cables since the Dark Days of the Power Cable Wars ), then I'll keep my findings to myself, as I simply don't want to yet again wade through all the cr*p/noise/flak I had to in my thread on SHF (I literally had guys insulting me personally about my physical hearing abilities).

    I'm fairly sure some of you will be interested in my findings, but I'm don't want to start a thread that will decay into yet another "cable war" or generate a lot of "noise" in what is a friendly forum.

    So...you can guys can let me know. Thanks.

    the 'ole Puma Cat

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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    I am truly interested Puma Cat!
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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    +1

    Absolutely interested.
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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    Yes Puma Cat, so long as the only variable is a change in a single Ethernet cable, I would be most interested to read your findings. This is not "Steve Hoffman forums".
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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    Please do, it is always interesting and from my perspective, very valuable information. Thank you for sharing!
    Best, GN

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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    As a believer in cables I would love to hear your findings.
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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    very interested...

    as a baseline, you might add generic cat5e or cat6 (unshielded, twisted pairs) and cat7 (shielded, twisted pairs) cables to the mix. also, comparing these two will tell you about the impact of shielding on this link in your system... there have been some reporting that shielded cables introduced a ground link through the shield which is, obviously, detrimental to SQ.

    looking forward to your findings, regardless of the sample set you choose.
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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    let er rip
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    Re: Anyone interested in some Ethernet cable evaluation info?

    Quote Originally Posted by aKnyght View Post
    very interested...

    as a baseline, you might add generic cat5e or cat6 (unshielded, twisted pairs) and cat7 (shielded, twisted pairs) cables to the mix. also, comparing these two will tell you about the impact of shielding on this link in your system... there have been some reporting that shielded cables introduced a ground link through the shield which is, obviously, detrimental to SQ.

    looking forward to your findings, regardless of the sample set you choose.
    It would be interesting to hear between the two for audio.

    I would never think not to choose shielded Ethernet cables.


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