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    Re: Is it Time To Allocate More Money To Speakers on a Digital set up?

    I am not sure you will end up with a system you truly love based on %.
    I have heard inexpensive speakers with expensive amps sound amazing. I have heard more expensive speakers with the same amps not sound hugely different.

    For me I found speakers that I truly enjoyed the sound of. From there find amps, S.S. or tubes based on your liking, save and spend to your comfort level. I would do the same with with each piece of equipment.

    You probably would not dress your self saying 50% on a shirt, 30% on pants, 5% each on belt and underwear and 10% on shoes. :-)
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    Re: Is it Time To Allocate More Money To Speakers on a Digital set up?

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Rest = preamp + DAC + streamer/music player + power conditioner + cables?

    I can safely say that system will not sound good.

    Speakers of 300,000, rest 100,000...
    I can safely say it will sound good.
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    Re: Is it Time To Allocate More Money To Speakers on a Digital set up?

    In my totally biased opinion, voicing the system to the room is vastly more effective than changing to any component at any price. And generally, it's a fraction of the price for new components these days.

    With having done somewhere around a thousand systems, I've never seen it be otherwise.

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    Re: Is it Time To Allocate More Money To Speakers on a Digital set up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    In my totally biased opinion, voicing the system to the room is vastly more effective than changing to any component at any price. And generally, it's a fraction of the price for new components these days.

    With having done somewhere around a thousand systems, I've never seen it be otherwise.

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    Jim, having been through the process of seriously executed room treatment myself, I can only agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bart View Post
    Jim, having been through the process of seriously executed room treatment myself, I can only agree.
    Yes! I listened to advice from a friend, did a room treatment of Vicoustic and GIK panels and wow! Probably one of the biggest noticeable improvements to date.
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    Re: Is it Time To Allocate More Money To Speakers on a Digital set up?

    Quote Originally Posted by mulveling View Post
    I'm currently at a small percentage of system cost on speakers - roughly 20%.
    I'm at 16 % on speakers.

    Amplification 41 %
    Digital rig 9 %
    (CD transport to DAC)
    Cables 14 %
    Acoustics 20 %
    (rough calculations)


    The issue of various DAC's sounding so much more alike is what I I have to admit I'm extremely impressed by the Yggdrasil 2 I now use in my Stax system. I had my fun being a vinyl snob, but man digital is pretty damn cool these days.
    That's the DAC that I have too. Incredibly good, I agree.
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    Re: Is it Time To Allocate More Money To Speakers on a Digital set up?

    I forgot my subwoofers in above calculations. Never mind.
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    Re: Is it Time To Allocate More Money To Speakers on a Digital set up?

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    You would be amazed at how well it can sound actually. A preamp, DAC, and streamer can coexist in ONE single device (I am using one right now). And well-built cables don't have to be esoteric stuff.

    The idea is that even if we take at face value that "everything" matters, given a budget, we should put more money where it matters the most: the speakers. I also believe that proper room set up (speaker and furniture location, speaker/room interaction including digital room correction) is much more cost effective than spending thousands on esoteric cables.
    Seems you’ve already had the answer. Please do come back and tell after you build one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bart View Post
    Speakers of 300,000, rest 100,000...
    I can safely say it will sound good.
    Actually 70,000 for amps and 30,000 for rest. It might sound good, but the “rest” part won’t do justice for 300,000 speakers. Probably money not well spent.

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    Re: Is it Time To Allocate More Money To Speakers on a Digital set up?

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Please do come back and tell after you build one.
    I already built it. It works.

 

 
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