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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    An interesting read Ultrafast69.

    I love these sorts of commentaries.

    I think the digital front end is the next great exploration ground to open up possibilities and unlock further potential of our systems. Keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    An interesting read Ultrafast69.

    I love these sorts of commentaries.

    I think the digital front end is the next great exploration ground to open up possibilities and unlock further potential of our systems. Keep it up.
    Totally agree and I just updated with some clarity.


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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    very informative and useful thread which i have been following with interest -- you are certainly on a mission to extract every last bit of SQ from your digital source. thanks for reporting your findings and progress here.

    based upon my experience as well, there are huge gains in SQ to be had by addressing the front-end digital infrastructure with the simple goal of making it transparent and, thereby, allowing the rest of the system to perform at its potential. having the benefit of starting from scratch, i was able to implement a quite minimalist digital front-end (described in this thread) which yielded a system SQ improvement far beyond my initial expectations.

    looking forward to hearing more results from your project -- as well as the experience of others here.
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    With such big gains on a power cord, it makes you wonder what a better PS might do. Keces from the talk I hear is a good middle to top of middle performer. There are others that are better. More money yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    With such big gains on a power cord, it makes you wonder what a better PS might do. Keces from the talk I hear is a good middle to top of middle performer. There are others that are better. More money yes.
    I honestly did not believe a power cable would have any affect on a linear power supply, but it so did.

    Can you get a better power supply, of course. The question is how better do you need to run a modem and switch?

    A $5000 Ansuz power cable on a $100 modem puts things into perspective from the point that too much of a good thing can be deadly, it was just way too much for me, so there has to be a balance in there somewhere. Personally I think the Audioquest checks that box and I am so happy with what I did and what I am hearing.

    Now once you install the dedicated line in the mechanical room, I can’t help but wonder if it will emulate the Ansuz - we will both see.

    Luckily it’s only money


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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    Why would anybody pay $5000 for a re-badged Chinese built switch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Why would anybody pay $5000 for a re-badged Chinese built switch?
    ?


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    The Front End Digital Foundation

    Heres more support why everything matters, and some things don’t with the caveat of system and ears depending...

    I stole my Ultra SS Stillpoints from under the transport and put them under the Keces 8 when I got it, now I had the idea to pull the Ultra SS from under the AQVOx switch in the audio room and replace them with a HRS Nimbus isolator puck and repurpose the Ultra SS under the transport - HUGE MISTAKE, everything flattened out. The Ultra SS went back under the AQVox and everything came back. This shows to me that those little switches are noisy M’Fkrs.

    Earlier I tried to use Stillpoints under the Gigafoil, and I lost dynamics, so the Gigafoil only sits on a small piece of stone,

    The Stillpoints did work on the Transport, but since I hardly use it was the reason to see if the change would work.
    Power Conditioning, Filters & Switch: Nordost QRT Power Product Line, Furutech GTX-D NCF/GTX 105D, 20 AMP Dedicated w/Surge Protection, AQVox SE switch, Keces LPS P3 & P8 w/Nordost AC power and Ghent DC cables for the Gigafoil v4, modem, routers and switches.
    Cables, Isolation, Room Treatment: Nordost Supreme Reference (Odin) Distribution, Reference Line (Valhalla 2) Components and Speakers, HRS M3X Platforms & Damping Plates. Stillpoint’s Ultra 6/SS and Vicoustic Room Treatments
    Power & Sound: D’Agostino Pre-Amplifier to D’Agostino Momentum Mono’s driving Wilson Alexia’s
    Source and Digital: Aurender N10, Brinkmann Nyquist MKII



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    The Front End Digital Foundation

    Latest updates, sound is dialed in very nice, and here is where I should leave well enough alone.

    So, knowing this, I threw in a single Stillpoints Ultra 6 under the AQVox SE, let it play for a day and out it came, the Ultra SS proves to be the best in my system.

    It seems higher end tweaks don’t get the performance when used for ancillary support to components. The Ansuz C Power Cable and now Ultra SS failed the sound test. Maybe simpler is the best path.

    So now I’m waiting for KingRex to put a dedicated circuit in my mechanical room for the modem, router and switch.

    Ethernet cable: It has been said for distance run a cheap cable to the Gigafoil and high quality out, and I did this and it works.

    Now, I am going to have Ghent make me a 15M Ethernet cable, going from the mechanical room to the music room to see what a better Ethernet cable does, it’s under $300 and much better than what I have. I refuse to put in a Nordost Heimdell at this point


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    Cables, Isolation, Room Treatment: Nordost Supreme Reference (Odin) Distribution, Reference Line (Valhalla 2) Components and Speakers, HRS M3X Platforms & Damping Plates. Stillpoint’s Ultra 6/SS and Vicoustic Room Treatments
    Power & Sound: D’Agostino Pre-Amplifier to D’Agostino Momentum Mono’s driving Wilson Alexia’s
    Source and Digital: Aurender N10, Brinkmann Nyquist MKII



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    The Front End Digital Foundation

    F#@K - It’s the Tweaker, Audio Junkie updating on my latest efforts to maximize sound quality for streaming!

    Running through my last combinations is not to get a different sound but better results or back it goes.

    By applying this practice, I have reversed a few trials as mentioned in earlier posts simply as they emitted poor SQ results.

    I’m gonna let my recent changes settle over the weekend, and don’t want to be fooled like the Ansuz did to me mentioned a few posts up, but as I process what I am hearing, I would be embarrassed to stand up if friends were over unless they were a couple of blonds.

    Here’s what I did;

    I moved my AQVox SE switch from the Music room to the Mechanical room, sitting on a hunk of Marble.



    It now connects a 15M generic Cat 6 cable to the Gigafoil v4 in the music room and also connects the main network switch supplying Cat 5 through the home, the results are even crazier on Apple TVs around the home, faster load, and stunning graphics.

    The Keces P3 in the Music Room now sits on Stillpoints Ultra SS versus the Stillpoints Minis - no change to the previous AC/DC cable updates.

    In the Mechanical room, the AQVox SE sits on Ultra SS, now with bases, next to the Keces P8 that is only used to power the Arris Surfboard modem and a Netgear switch feeding the home other than the Music Room.

    The AQVoxSe connects the Netgear home switch with a AQVox top of the line Ethernet cable - no change to the previous AC/DC cable updates.

    I moved the Shunyata Defender power conditioner to the PS Audio outlet, that sits above the Audioquest 3 Distribution hard wire cable/plug.



    I am waiting for my new 15M Shielded Belden Ethernet cable with German Matrix Shielded termination plugs to arrive late next week, plus a new 1M Gotham, made by Ghent for a total of $375.00.

    The new Ethernet cable will replace the Generic Cat 6 Ethernet, this will tell us if the Gigafoil benefits from a better cable, I think it has a chance, but will be patient and take a listen. From the Gigafoil, there’s no change using Nordosts top of the line Heimdell.

    I’ll use the existing 15M Generic Cat 6 fed from the AQVox SE to hook up a new Netgear switch in the Music Room tnst will feed Apple TV and Oppo using Nordost Heimdell cables. The Netgear will be powered by the second rail of the Keces P3 using a new Ghent Gotham DC 1M cable, and I will ground the Netgear switch with a Nordost QKore cable giving it a better then average start - eventually, I’ll Stillpoints the switch and ultimately replace it with Audio grade as the performance is hard to beat once I see the picture on the TV.

    After all this, I’ll wait for KingRexs installation of a dedicated circuit in the mechanical room to happen whenever and stick a fork in it, it’s Salmon season for me and my focus will be on this years bounty that pays for all of this.

    Happy Listening







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    Power Conditioning, Filters & Switch: Nordost QRT Power Product Line, Furutech GTX-D NCF/GTX 105D, 20 AMP Dedicated w/Surge Protection, AQVox SE switch, Keces LPS P3 & P8 w/Nordost AC power and Ghent DC cables for the Gigafoil v4, modem, routers and switches.
    Cables, Isolation, Room Treatment: Nordost Supreme Reference (Odin) Distribution, Reference Line (Valhalla 2) Components and Speakers, HRS M3X Platforms & Damping Plates. Stillpoint’s Ultra 6/SS and Vicoustic Room Treatments
    Power & Sound: D’Agostino Pre-Amplifier to D’Agostino Momentum Mono’s driving Wilson Alexia’s
    Source and Digital: Aurender N10, Brinkmann Nyquist MKII



 

 
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