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  1. #51
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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Are both speakers without presets? Did you try and update firmware on both at the same time?
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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    I think it’s just a computer glitch. It’s got a be a way to reset to factory setting.


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  3. #53

    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Nop, i updated them separately and they both lost all the presets

  4. #54

    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Were these factory presets or dealer made ones?

  5. #55

    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    I believe there were only dealer modes as i didnt have any 15hz adjustments like stated in the manual, only had 0, 30 and - 30 hz presets for example

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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Is your dealer an Avantgarde dealer? Failing that, what I want you to do is email Armin Krauss: a.krauss@avantgarde-acoustic.de

    Explain to him what happened, and ask for a “remote session”. He can remotely log in and see what has happened and make all corrections remotely and get you back on track.

    Once back on track, let me know, and I will email you my Zero TA EQ settings to play with. Obviously, they are just starting points and your room will dictate the appropriate adjustments to each.
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  7. #57

    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Yeah they are, they will also send an email to avantgarde asking for a firmware or fix. Let's see if this get's fixed soon, and thank you, hopefully i can get this sorted, would really apreciate your settings after, i'm sure it will help me improve the sound even more.

  8. #58

    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    So avantgarde sent me the ffi file and now i have the presets again. If you could send me the custom settings would really appreciate it Mike.

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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Quote Originally Posted by FadiNg View Post
    So avantgarde sent me the ffi file and now i have the presets again. If you could send me the custom settings would really appreciate it Mike.
    Sure. PM me your email address. Remember, these are just my settings for my room. But a good starting point.
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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Quote Originally Posted by FadiNg View Post
    Hello, so first off let me just say that i'm in Europe, and i'm new to this forum, so thanks in advance for hearing me out.
    I have a small room 3x5 meters (9x16 feet) altough the speakers would have to be in the 9 feet distance part, and for aesthetic reasons i would really like to have floorstanding speakers. I Have a primaluna dialogue premium HP Amp and a pioneer n70ae streamer, up to 10K Euros given the room size and for floorstanding speakers what would be the speaker options for my room?

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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Quote Originally Posted by johndoe21ro View Post
    Did you get the chance to listen to some Triangle Magellan speakers?
    He already bought speakers, if you haven't noticed.
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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Quote Originally Posted by Al M. View Post
    He already bought speakers, if you haven't noticed.
    And real good ones!


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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    So things changed a little this past weeks, i ended up changing the music setup to the attic, which is a lot bigger, and have been using the avantgarde's in there. (if i considered doing that in the past i would probably have also considered several other speaker alternatives) but i also really like the avantgarde's in here so that's not a real issue. However i really am interested in changing the primaluna dialogue premium HP for several reasons:
    I really enjoy the sound of the primaluna but only after the amp is conected for a couple of hours, however i would still prefer if the sound was a bit smoother;
    i have the premium HP version which has 8 el34 tubes and 72w power and that's a totally overkill for these speakers, so like i said i prefer something way more efficient and possibily an set amp.

    So bottom line i want to change the amp however my budget doesn't allow me to go really high end routes, i have about 5-6K to change the amp, i guess it's better if i create a new thread in the proper zone for that?

    Btw here is a photo of the avantgarde's in the attic setup.
    20190428_114956.jpg

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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Wow, what a beautiful looking setup,
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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Nice system and beautiful room.
    A friend has a similar space as his audio room. After changing gear several times, trying to get that magical sound, it was recommended to him to try some acoustic treatment of the space. After treating the area he was more than pleased and was finally able to sit back and enjoy the music.
    What with all the hard surfaces in your room it might be worth looking into.
    As for amps, in the solid state category there is PASS and VALVET among many others. For tubes, there are Coincident, Line Magnetic and many others. Depending on your musical preferences and that you are considering an SET amp you might want to look at tube amps that use 300B tubes.
    Good luck with your musical journey.
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    Re: New Speaker Setup Small Room 10K Euros

    Quote Originally Posted by FadiNg View Post
    So things changed a little this past weeks, i ended up changing the music setup to the attic, which is a lot bigger, and have been using the avantgarde's in there. (if i considered doing that in the past i would probably have also considered several other speaker alternatives) but i also really like the avantgarde's in here so that's not a real issue. However i really am interested in changing the primaluna dialogue premium HP for several reasons:
    I really enjoy the sound of the primaluna but only after the amp is conected for a couple of hours, however i would still prefer if the sound was a bit smoother;
    i have the premium HP version which has 8 el34 tubes and 72w power and that's a totally overkill for these speakers, so like i said i prefer something way more efficient and possibily an set amp.

    So bottom line i want to change the amp however my budget doesn't allow me to go really high end routes, i have about 5-6K to change the amp, i guess it's better if i create a new thread in the proper zone for that?

    Btw here is a photo of the avantgarde's in the attic setup.
    20190428_114956.jpg
    Nice set up, Like It
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