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March 16, 2019, 07:12 PM #1Senior Member
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Hattor Passive
Just recently I have been playing around with the Passive mode on the Freya. It definitely has grown on me. Extremely transparent... which brings me to the Hattor Passive Preamps. I know Marty has one. Has anyone else tried one? Opinions?
It looks very interesting. How does it compare to the Schiit passive mode?
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March 16, 2019, 07:34 PM #2Super Moderator
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I really wanted one but once my GAT2 and Misho Wooden combo became possible. I stopped looking.
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March 16, 2019, 07:43 PM #3Senior Member
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Not sure it would beat the Stage 2 STP-SE or the new model coming soon though maybe cheaper.
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March 16, 2019, 07:59 PM #4Senior Member
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Yea the Stage 2 would be nice, but cannot swing it now. Wife had to have new Falcon laptops
... and both cars needed tires.... grrrr...
Looks like a Hattor could be had for the grand range with the same level resistors as are used in the Stage 2...McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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March 16, 2019, 08:01 PM #5Senior Member
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Not sure what EJ is doing with a new model. We were looking at new ideas when I was there for a few months... that was over a year ago though.
Originally Posted by Jack
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Randy
Looks like Hattor has a US distributor now so don't know if he will sell direct to US anymore but you can check.
http://mockingbirddistribution.com/hattor-audio/
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Thanks Jack. If I become serious I will have to look in to it. Either way would want it customized to the configuration that works best for me.
Of course a Stage 2 would probably work fantastic in my system.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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Re: Hattor Passive
Always priorities Originally Posted by Randy Myers
Yea the Stage 2 would be nice, but cannot swing it now. Wife had to have new Falcon laptops... and both cars needed tires.... grrrr...
Looks like a Hattor could be had for the grand range with the same level resistors as are used in the Stage 2...
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March 17, 2019, 09:44 AM #9Senior Member
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I know, right, always getting in the way... Originally Posted by CPP
Always priorities,
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March 17, 2019, 10:23 AM #10Senior Member
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Tell me about it, 50% of all my audio stuff is boxed up due to the house showings. Originally Posted by Randy Myers
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Selling a house is so much fun. Where are you moving to Chris? Originally Posted by CPP
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Not far, 5 miles tops westward. , I finally convinced the wife to move away from the beach. The upkeep, evacuating just a pain and its time to downsize a little. Originally Posted by mep
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Moving is a pain... hopefully all goes well and easy for you. Good luck indeed!
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March 18, 2019, 09:20 AM #14Senior Member
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I have no experience with the passive, but can say I was really surprised with the nCore Integrated
http://www.hattor.com/ncore_integrated.html
The volume control and LED readout are slick and the power from a little Int was more than enough.
They still dont have it on their site, but they are also developing a hybrid Integrated which I also got to hear and play with.
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March 18, 2019, 11:19 AM #15Senior Member
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Unique looking piece. I think the wood side panels look pretty cool, but I also wonder if the two fans could get a tad noisy?
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March 18, 2019, 11:28 AM #16Senior Member
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No noise that I recalled. This is the setting where I got my time to play with this gear. This was the smallest setup of 3 that day in an upstairs bedroom. I was alone for an hour or so enjoying my own disks via the CAL as well as streaming with a Lampi DAC.
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Nice... having fans does not always mean noisy. The little T+A amplifier has a fan on it but I have never once heard it, for example.
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March 18, 2019, 03:22 PM #18Senior Member
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I had one and no complaints from me. I just sold it week of so ago, since I am moving to an integrated. I used it with IceEdge amp, Folsom's DIY and Moscode 600. It worked well with all of them and I did not have any issues with it. Arek @ Hattor was easy to deal with and you can buy the pre directly from him.
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I just got one loaded with top resistors and the top opamp stage. I purchased this for a certain type of listening in contrast to my DHT preamp. i have not played with it yet, as I’m in the middle of some speakerstand footer demos that I have to wrap up, so I’m sticking to what I know right now.
I did check working order and all functions. During that quick listen it sounded great for complet transparency.
Ill try to report back in a few weeks on how I like it. But I’m sure it’s going to suit my needs just fine.
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