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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining.
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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    Quote Originally Posted by pvanosta View Post
    - Lumin T2
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    I can confirm Lumin T2 and X1 support up to DSD512 over Ethernet Roon Ready, with analog XLR / RCA outputs and digital USB / BNC-SPDIF outputs. MQA certified too - if you subscribe to Tidal or have MQA CD rips.

    There is indeed very few Roon Ready analog-output network players capable of DSD256 / DSD512 playback from Roon.

    Aurender is not Roon Ready, you can find their reason of not supporting Roon here:
    http://support.aurender.com/faq.html
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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    Quote Originally Posted by pvanosta View Post
    I have been doing some research of my own with similar requirements (accept DSD256 via ethernet, act as Roon endpoint and output analog via AES/EBU). Surprisingly (to me at least), several of the devices mentioned in this thread failed that set of requirements.
    T+A MP3100HV (multi player) and SD3100HV (streaming DAC), do NOT accept DSD via ethernet (as confirmed by their own tech support to me, just days ago), which I thought was disappointing for an otherwise engineering masterpiece
    Aurender does not work with Roon (I would love to be wrong on this one, so anyone using an Aurender as Roon endpoint, pls chime in)

    The ONLY players I have found so far which meet my requirements under 10K$, are:
    Auralic Vega G1 (someone mentioned the Aries G2 in the thread, but that does not have a DAC, nor analog out)
    Auralic Vega G2
    Lumin T2

    If I have missed any, please let me know.
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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    As stated above, I am not interested in moving to USB, for a number of reasons my post did not go into (in part because I also do not want to derail the thread into a USB vs Ethernet vs SPDIF debate which has no added value). I like ethernet, so that is what I am searching for. Mr Wang from Auralic stated that Ethernet end-to-end was the best connection for my current setup config (see above) so when I upgrade I want to retain that connection/setup.
    But to each his own.

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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    Quote Originally Posted by pvanosta View Post
    For some reason my earlier post did not make it onto the board.

    I am in a similar position to the OP.
    I was/am looking for a Network Streamer/Dac whicvh accepts DSD256 via ethernet, acts as a Roon endpoint and outputs analog via AES/EBU.


    Based on those criteria, several of the devices listed in this thread do not qualify.


    The top-shelf T+A HV components (SD 3100 HV or MP 3100 HV) do NOT accept DSD via ethernet, as confirmed directly to me by T+A tech support.


    Aurender does not work with ROON (I would love to be wrong on this, so if anyone is using their Aurender as a Roon endpoint, please chime in


    The Auralic Aries G1/G2 is a network streamer/bridge but not a DAC => no analog out at all.


    The only devices I have found which meet the above requirements for less than $15K, are:


    - Auralic Vega G1 dac
    - Auralic Vega G2 Dac
    - Lumin T2
    - Lumin X1
    - Brinkmann Nyquist Mk2 (at the very top end of the 15K barrier, so not in serious contention for me)


    If I missed any, somebody please provide feedback.
    I suggest that you create your own thread (rather than borrowing an existing one) so you can get answers specific to your situation.

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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    I suggest that you create your own thread (rather than borrowing an existing one) so you can get answers specific to your situation.
    Thank you for the comment, however: my needs and those of the OP significantly overlap AND several of the comments provided (about T+A or Auralic Aries) provided patently incorrect information, which is why I joined the thread (to share my own research on the question and to find out what else is out there that matches my and the OP's search criteria).
    So your suggestion is heard and respectfully ignored, thanks.

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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    Check the Teac Reference NT-505, which also runs the Lumin App, and see if it meets your specifications.
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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    NT-505 supports up to DSD128 from Ethernet, DSD512 from USB.
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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

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    Re: Looking for a networking streamer

    Quote Originally Posted by pvanosta View Post
    For some reason my earlier post did not make it onto the board.

    I am in a similar position to the OP.
    I was/am looking for a Network Streamer/Dac whicvh accepts DSD256 via ethernet, acts as a Roon endpoint and outputs analog via AES/EBU.


    Based on those criteria, several of the devices listed in this thread do not qualify.


    The top-shelf T+A HV components (SD 3100 HV or MP 3100 HV) do NOT accept DSD via ethernet, as confirmed directly to me by T+A tech support.


    Aurender does not work with ROON (I would love to be wrong on this, so if anyone is using their Aurender as a Roon endpoint, please chime in


    The Auralic Aries G1/G2 is a network streamer/bridge but not a DAC => no analog out at all.


    The only devices I have found which meet the above requirements for less than $15K, are:


    - Auralic Vega G1 dac
    - Auralic Vega G2 Dac
    - Lumin T2
    - Lumin X1
    - Brinkmann Nyquist Mk2 (at the very top end of the 15K barrier, so not in serious contention for me)


    If I missed any, somebody please provide feedback.
    Cary DMS-550
    Cary DMS-600

    Both receive DSD 512 and do upsampling native PCM and DSD to DSD 256 via direct ethernet input.

    These replace the discontinued Cary DMS-500, which also handles PCM and DSD in same manner. The differences between these 3 are the level of DAC chips used.
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