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    Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
    Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
    Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

    Sasha DAW Drivers


    • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
    • Material: Paper Cone
    • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
    • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
    • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
    • Material: Paper Pulp
    • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
    • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
    • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by skytop View Post
    I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
    Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
    Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

    Sasha DAW Drivers


    • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
    • Material: Paper Cone
    • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
    • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
    • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
    • Material: Paper Pulp
    • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
    • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
    • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
    Says who? You are sadly mistaken IMO. Newer doesn't always mean better. If that was true, we would all be listening to SS gear driven by digital source material.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Skytop - Curious which speakers you ended up buying
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Sasha DAW Technical Specs from https://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/sasha-daw

    Drivers:
    Woofers:Two – 8 inch (20.32 cm)
    Midrange:One – 7 inch (17.78 cm)
    Tweeter:One – 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
    Measurements

    Sensitivity:91 dB (one watt at one meter at 1kHz)
    Nominal Impedance:4 ohms / minimum 2.48 ohms @ 85 Hz
    Minimum Amplifier Power:25 watts per channel
    Frequency Response:20 Hz –30 kHz +/- 3 dB
    room average response [RAR]




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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by skytop View Post
    I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
    Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
    Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

    Sasha DAW Drivers


    • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
    • Material: Paper Cone
    • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
    • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
    • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
    • Material: Paper Pulp
    • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
    • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
    • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
    FYI there is more than just 'paper' going on there !

    So what did you buy ?
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    One can say that using Paper cone drivers would be the equivalent putting economy tires on a formula 1 car?

    Just saying but, as others have mentioned probably more to the sound than just the drivers but since you brought it up : -0

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by skytop View Post
    I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
    Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
    Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

    Sasha DAW Drivers


    • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
    • Material: Paper Cone
    • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
    • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
    • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
    • Material: Paper Pulp
    • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
    • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
    • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
    Are you telling us that you loved the sound of the Wilson's, but passed due to the materials of the drivers?. ROFL

    Or you are just a troll.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Oh boy, very little value add on this thread. The original poster just wanted to make some noise. Suggest this thread should be closed.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Oh boy, very little value add on this thread. The original poster just wanted to make some noise. Suggest this thread should be closed.
    Agreed.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by skytop View Post
    I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
    Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
    Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

    Sasha DAW Drivers


    • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
    • Material: Paper Cone
    • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
    • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
    • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
    • Material: Paper Pulp
    • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
    • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
    • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
    Nothing wrong with paper or treated paper for midrange drivers , paper is actually very natural sounding ...


    Regards

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    I’d like to hear from the OP.


    I’m fine with Wilson, just not crazy about the inverted dome tweeters.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    I’d like to hear from the OP.


    I’m fine with Wilson, just not crazy about the inverted dome tweeters.
    Joe. are you trolling now


    the new Wilson's use old skool silk dome tweeters.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by XV-1 View Post
    Joe. are you trolling now


    the new Wilson's use old skool silk dome tweeters.
    That’s why I like them now.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by XV-1 View Post
    Here, trolly trolly! Why hasn't this person come back yet? Hit and run posting?
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    I’d like to hear from the OP.


    I’m fine with Wilson, just not crazy about the inverted dome tweeters.
    I think he's ranting and raving Mr. Joe. Hit and run posting is a good sign of trolling. He's making fun of a company that makes really good stuff. I don't like when this happens.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    I’m hoping the OP comes back with some clarification or other thoughts.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    I’m hoping the OP comes back with some clarification or other thoughts.
    +1

    May be there is more to the story than just a rant?

    In an age when Magico is employing graphene midrange and bass driver designs with Diamond coated Beryllium diaphragm tweeters and others like Raidho and Borresen are also using particle accelerators to bombard diamond / carbon onto speaker cones in an attempt to stiffen them without gaining weight and thus reduce break up resonances - Wilson's paper pulp does look dated from a modern technological perspective. Is that the point he is trying to make? Hopefully he comes back with clarification.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Says who? You are sadly mistaken IMO. Newer doesn't always mean better. If that was true, we would all be listening to SS gear driven by digital source material.
    If you want great, clear, accurate, audible music then you are “listening to SS gear driven by digital source material”.

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    +1

    May be there is more to the story than just a rant?

    In an age when Magico is employing graphene midrange and bass driver designs with Diamond coated Beryllium diaphragm tweeters and others like Raidho and Borresen are also using particle accelerators to bombard diamond / carbon onto speaker cones in an attempt to stiffen them without gaining weight and thus reduce break up resonances - Wilson's paper pulp does look dated from a modern technological perspective. Is that the point he is trying to make? Hopefully he comes back with clarification.
    tube amps and turntables are also dated from a technology perspective. As you well know, both technologies can sound up there with the best you can listen to.

    Personally I think Wilson should ditch the soft dome tweeter and move onto a Beryllium, Diamond type tweeter as I find the dome tweeter so damn boring whenever I listen to the new Wilson's.

    The guy is troll, plain and simple - he was online when people were asking for him to clarify. he may come back and say Magico is sterile and artificial sounding
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    +1

    May be there is more to the story than just a rant?

    In an age when Magico is employing graphene midrange and bass driver designs with Diamond coated Beryllium diaphragm tweeters and others like Raidho and Borresen are also using particle accelerators to bombard diamond / carbon onto speaker cones in an attempt to stiffen them without gaining weight and thus reduce break up resonances - Wilson's paper pulp does look dated from a modern technological perspective. Is that the point he is trying to make? Hopefully he comes back with clarification.
    Yeah, why would anyone paint in oil nowadays when you can design on a computer and just print it out Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today.

    Any materials used are not a guarantor for a good LS. Ability to design high quality audio products is. Example: both Magico and B&W use diamond coating in their tweeters. Nevertheless, the products are not equal.


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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Yep... time to close this one. No value to anyone here.

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by Coppy View Post
    Yep... time to close this one. No value to anyone here.
    On the contrary, I think the original post raises an interesting question, can loudspeakers using older technology in their cone materials sonically compete with the latest technology cone materials? Seems like a topic worthy of discussion.

    IMO, all other things being equal, I would give the advantage to the companies using the latest technology with their cone materials. However, as we know, all things are not equal and the execution can be just as important as using the latest cutting edge materials in the design.

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    There are multiple ways to skin a cat. Do you listen to speaker material or the sounds the speakers make? (Disclosure: I own Magicos, but I like Wilsons too - a lot.)

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    I wasn't going to reply again but... my objection wasn't to the materials subject but really to the initial post by someone who has probably not heard and Wilson or Magico speakers, let alone owned them. And, yes, I'm a long time multiple Wilson owner. Magico makes fine, good sounding products as do others using all kinds of materials. Don't like Wilson's drivers... don't buy them.

    I can't speak for Wilson, but their product development seems to focus on cabinet, time delay and crossover technology. They buy and often heavily modify speakers from companies that make a business of manufacturing them. Wilson has samples of many other speakers in the factory to sample. David, Darrell and their substantial technical and sales staffs spend time in the field at dealers hearing all the technology available and have seen no reason to change for the sake of change or for marketing benefit. That's the "way they roll" as the expression goes.

    Enjoy the music...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    If you want great, clear, accurate, audible music then you are “listening to SS gear driven by digital source material”.

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Interesting thread. I was just reading on another forum where they were trashing Poly and other types of drivers because there are still 70 year old or more paper driver speakers working. So in that thread, they were seeking out paper cones as opposed to other more modern types.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    I must confess that i´m a fan of paper cones. In some way i find other materials are not so accurate when it comes to the timbre of the instruments, especially the human voice.


    But there are exceptions. I have no doubts that i could happy live with Marten loudspeakers and their ceramic ? drivers.

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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Really boils down to is it better or different. I am particularly happy with what I hear, and no regrets!


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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    Using paper drivers is perfectly fine as long as it reflects in the pricing.

    Sasha DAW is only $37,900.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    Interesting thread. I was just reading on another forum where they were trashing Poly and other types of drivers because there are still 70 year old or more paper driver speakers working. So in that thread, they were seeking out paper cones as opposed to other more modern types.
    It goes to show you how everyone’s taste/preference is different. Maybe it’s not necessarily the composition of the drivers, but the execution of them. I think it all comes down to personal taste.
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    Other manufacturers use “older tech” yet their sound is also fabulous e.g. Avangartde (horns and paper woofers). I’ve heard some speakers with so call “state of the art materials” that sound dreadful.

    Lets move on...

    And, to be fully transparent, I own Wilsons. And, I’ve own Maggies, B&W, Spendors, Revel Salons and Perdormas and a lot other brands.

    At at the end of the day, it’s not about the driver material but the full implementation of the product: cabinet; drivers; crossover;...etc.
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    Most any speaker with higher efficiency uses paper and it typically lasts longer, especially those with accordion surrounds. Paper is still widely used by many. And, I admit, it's debateable but many listeners still prefer silk dome tweeters over anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by skytop View Post
    I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
    Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
    Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

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    Well , at least OP did a great job bring every one in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Well , at least OP did a great job bring every one in
    LOL. Yes he did. Actually, this is a good subject. I have to admit I sometimes wonder how long my Magico drivers will last. I hope forever, but being new technology/material I do have a little apprehension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    LOL. Yes he did. Actually, this is a good subject. I have to admit I sometimes wonder how long my Magico drivers will last. I hope forever, but being new technology/material I do have a little apprehension.
    Unless you fry the drivers, they should last a long time.
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    I have personally never liked the looks or sound from Thiel's Pie Tin Drivers
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    I wonder what the Op thinks about electrostatics ? ................. if he ever returns to the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    I wonder what the Op thinks about electrostatics ? ................. if he ever returns to the thread.
    He just came here to drop a turd in the punch bowl.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    I'm surprised that more speaker manufacturers aren't using additive manufacturing techniques, irrespective of the materials used. Just seems to make sense to me.
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    Re: Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

    getting back to point, while I've listened to many a Wilson that I've enjoyed (sonically) the majority of their lineup turns me off(visually).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    getting back to point, while I've listened to many a Wilson that I've enjoyed (sonically) the majority of their lineup turns me off(visually).
    Hi Dave,

    Could you share the few that had your attention? I am wondering if we both had the same views on those we liked bout Wilsons. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    There are multiple ways to skin a cat. Do you listen to speaker material or the sounds the speakers make? (Disclosure: I own Magicos, but I like Wilsons too - a lot.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Seh View Post
    Hi Dave,

    Could you share the few that had your attention? I am wondering if we both had the same views on those we liked bout Wilsons. Thanks

    Jerry
    Over the years Jerry I've listen to most. One example the Sophia, enjoyable to listen to but as I've said many times it reminds me of a fifties/sixties era amusement park trash can. The same more or less can be said for the WATT/Puppy - Yvette. I listened to the WP 7's being driven by The Big Rogue Apollo mono blocks, loved what I heard but eventually I had to open my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    ….but eventually I had to open my eyes.
    loool

    i am forbidden to buy wilson by my wife! we had the witt when we were young, she hated them…..later i bought the wattpuppy6, she hated them and told me to just throw them away…..we had then the handsome piegas and the world was peaceful…...i then convinced here how good these alexias were and showed here some pictures from the internet (i took a long look at every picture available from google and showed her the 2 prettiest ones)…..well in the end, lol, the alexias played less then 10minutes in my home. the dealer had to take them back right away, just because they are wilson and look like wilson and there is no other surface than wilson gloss. good luck i didnt pay them yet or bought online.
    yeah damn wilson gloss, you may like that or NOT,.....however, more options woud be the ticket. very especially since they say how costy the gloss is. a cheaper option with a rough surface for example.
    well, the shape of the box itself….truly oldscool uglyness sells!!
    that said, i recently bought the wilson tunetots. thought my wife wouldnt even notice too much this two litte things on my officetable. well, i thought she wouldnt recognize them as wilsons, because i blacked the white wilson logo on the front. huuu, she asked what ugly shit i got on the table there instead of the logitechs. well, few days later by cleaning she went around the speakers and saw the wilson logo (on the cable terminal)….she just couldnt belive it, really nottttt) was really lost and pale and slaped my face...in a lovely way and somewhat laughing...still, wilson should think about what problems they cause worldwide for decades. NO woman likes wilson, not even one.they may accept it because they dont want to hurt the pleasure of her partner. NO man likes wilson, not even one! they just accept it because form follows function is said.
    i told my wife i always can trade them in again….and they remind me of the wilson witts we had when we were Young.
    i did love the witt, they were my first big speaker.
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    "NO woman likes wilson, not even one.they may accept it because they dont want to hurt the pleasure of her partner. NO man likes wilson, not even one! they just accept it because form follows function is said."

    Gee, I wonder how they've been able to stay in business for 44 years.

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    Gee, I wonder how they've been able to stay in business for 44 years.
    a large number of blind audiophiles .........
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    Now this is an ugly speaker. Expensive, probably sounds great... but ugly:

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    And... My wife and I think my Desert Silver Wilson Yvettes really add to our already attractive living room.

    To each... his own.

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