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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    You get the dream team if you only order one Qsub-15?
    A good dealer wouldn’t let him order one. It’s a pair or none. One creates more problems than it solves.
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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincy2 View Post
    I will be joining the Q-Sub club in a few months. Thanks to my favorite crack dealer Mike :-)

    Now the waiting begins. I have a smallish room so the set up should be relevant to a lot of other addicts. I'll post after the Dream Team completes the tuning.

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Adyc View Post
    How large is your room please?
    14' W by 19' L by 10' H. Well treated.

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Do your M400 get power from the P20?

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Do your M400 get power from the P20?
    Yes. Both mono blocks and the subs and the MSB DAC to the same P20. The power level never rises above 60% of capacity. I feed the P20 with a 20 amp dedicated circuit from my breaker box.

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    I don’t think it ever will get much past that if at all.

    I have interest in the P20 with suitable headroom after having a P10 which I did push a few times to shut down


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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincy2 View Post
    14' W by 19' L by 10' H. Well treated.

    Eri
    Congratulations Eri. I have heard a QSub with the M3 at my local dealer. That was in a really big room, and he only had one sub (two 15" drivers). Are you going to get two subs (four 15" drivers) in your room? Can you share a photo of your room? I'll be very interested in reading about the installation and sound. Thanks.
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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Congratulations Eri. I have heard a QSub with the M3 at my local dealer. That was in a really big room, and he only had one sub (two 15" drivers). Are you going to get two subs (four 15" drivers) in your room? Can you share a photo of your room? I'll be very interested in reading about the installation and sound. Thanks.
    Peter,

    I've purchased two of the Q-sub 15's to replace my two REL G1's. When they show up I will post before and after pictures of the installation and tuning process to give everyone the benefit of the lessons we learn during the activity.

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Congratulations Eri. I have heard a QSub with the M3 at my local dealer. That was in a really big room, and he only had one sub (two 15" drivers). Are you going to get two subs (four 15" drivers) in your room? Can you share a photo of your room? I'll be very interested in reading about the installation and sound. Thanks.
    That would certainly explain some things. Two subs is definitely the way to go. The Q-Sub technology gives total control over the subs (including Q adjustments, crossover type and frequency and dB adjustments, etc.) making integration seamless.


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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    That would certainly explain some things. Two subs is definitely the way to go. The Q-Sub technology gives total control over the subs (including Q adjustments, crossover type and frequency and dB adjustments, etc.) making integration seamless.


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    Mike, it sounded excellent when I heard the combination. I've since heard that system without the sub and it was not as enjoyable but other factors were involved. What things would having one sub explain? And how much does it cost to buy two QSubs?

    Do you think two Qsubs with the M3 would sound better than one M6? What would be the retail prices for those?
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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    I'm waiting for Magico to do A-sub, and I'll buy two of those to go with my M3.

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    You can try the S-sub if you are looking for sth more affordable.
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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I'm waiting for Magico to do A-sub, and I'll buy two of those to go with my M3.
    I wonder if Magico is working on an MSub design. Just imagine what that would be like.
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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I wonder if Magico is working on an MSub design. Just imagine what that would be like.
    No. Had lengthy discussions with them about this.


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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    No. Had lengthy discussions with them about this.


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    Thanks. I'm not surprised. They have three main lines of speakers, three lines of footers, two lines of subs, and the home theater speakers. That is a lot of products and parts to keep track of. From the M6 and Ultimate to the A3 and S2, I think they have most options covered.

    Mike, have you asked them about an M mini or two-way stand mounted speaker?
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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Thanks. I'm not surprised. They have three main lines of speakers, three lines of footers, two lines of subs, and the home theater speakers. That is a lot of products and parts to keep track of. From the M6 and Ultimate to the A3 and S2, I think they have most options covered.

    Mike, have you asked them about an M mini or two-way stand mounted speaker?
    I have. I don’t think there is a definitive yes or no at this time.


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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincy2 View Post
    Peter,

    I've purchased two of the Q-sub 15's to replace my two REL G1's. . . .
    Hello Eric,

    Out of curiosity I was wondering if you considered a “six pack” of REL No. 25s as an alternative to the Q-Subs? Of course having the subwoofer match your loudspeakers makes perfect sense; I was just curious as to your thought process.

    Thank you.

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    In the 2 x Q-sub installation, does one get the L and the other get the R, or do they both get L and R?

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by RonR View Post
    Hello Eric,

    Out of curiosity I was wondering if you considered a “six pack” of REL No. 25s as an alternative to the Q-Subs? Of course having the subwoofer match your loudspeakers makes perfect sense; I was just curious as to your thought process.

    Thank you.

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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    In the 2 x Q-sub installation, does one get the L and the other get the R, or do they both get L and R?
    L/R.
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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Cincy,

    With a few months of Qsub, can you share your experience? Any photos please?

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    Magico Q-Sub 15’s

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    Cincy,

    With a few months of Qsub, can you share your experience? Any photos please?
    We are still coordinating a time for Peter from Magico to come do the full EQ. Looking like end of August. Summer schedules and Asian shows throw a wrinkle in things.
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    Re: Magico Q-Sub 15’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    We are still coordinating a time for Peter from Magico to come do the full EQ. Looking like end of August. Summer schedules and Asian shows throw a wrinkle in things.
    Great. Even without full optimisation, how does he like it?

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    Can you do a YouTube video of the calibration process. Thanks.

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