T + A PA 2500R integrated amps. Opinions vs. others
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    T + A PA 2500R integrated amps. Opinions vs. others

    I am the process of consolidating my electronics. The integrated that has caught my eye is the T + A PA2500R. There are various reasons such as the phono pre amp, tone controls, higher current and the power ability into 4 and 2ohms. The other contenders would be the Luxman 509, Pass Labs 250 integrated, Accuphase E-470 or Gryphon Diablo 120 or others? I really don't want to exceed $15K and this limits my choice of the top line models unless I went perhaps the used route. Thoughts and opinions and comparisons would be appreciated!

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    Welcome to AS.

    I haven't heard that model but the T+A I have heard, I liked. I've heard a fair amount of Pass and used to own some. Pass would be more to the warm lush side of T+A, no lack of power and drive capability.

    Based on hearing the 300, the Gryphon should be a contender. Mike can tell you more how the 120 compares.

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    I would consider Lux 509 and Devialet 220 Pro Expert!


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    There should be lots of experience on this forum regarding the above, what musical/audiophile priorities do you value? Speakers matter also.
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    Re: T + A PA 2500R integrated amps. Opinions vs. others

    Oly has an E-470 for sale here. I don't know Oly so I am removed on endorsement. Used price leaves room for other upgrades.

    Someone had a used Diablo 300 for sale a while ago here and well under 15K.

    I had the T+A in my system over a year ago and thought it was neutral but non-fatiguing. Didn't have the sparkle/twinkle of the T+A 3000.
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    My speakers are VA Liszt that are fairly efficient at 91db. I value an open, airy soundstage with an amp that deliver a quick transient response without being harsh or metalic. I listen to most styles of music including full orchestral pieces.

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    I took a leap of faith buying my T+A gear. It's not a well known name here in the U.S.. I'm thrilled with my setup. I think the brand offers exceptional quality at all price points. I don't think you'll ever regret a T+A purchase, unless of course you choose to sell the gear at some point. Because of it's lack of popularity, resale is somewhat challenging.
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    I have to agree here. T+A is exceptional equipment and from my understanding their reputation in Germany and Europe is very high. They are not as well known here in the states so selling a unit is much more of a challenge. Too bad because it is great gear.

    For example, I have their little AMP 8 which is a great little amp. Typical of T+A, built like a bear and will definitely last for a very long time. I was trying to sell it because I recently have gotten into SET tube amplifiers and my fantastic T+A is just sitting here not being used. So far I have not had anyone decide to go for it. I have had a couple inquiries but no one has made the move yet. That does not bother me too much since it is a fantastic amp to have as a backup...
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    We'd reviewed T+A PA 2500 R and this is great integrated - with very transparent, but not clinical sound. One thing which is very important is burn-in time even after woke-up from stand by mode. It tooks minimum 45 min - "cold" 2500 lacks emotions.

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    I found the same with my AMP 8, but no so much so with the DAC 8 DSD. Certainly 5-10 minutes is warranted, but not as much as the amp. My SET amps take a while, 45-60 mins seems to be where there is a noticeable improvement.
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