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    Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I no longer see my posts which questioned Howie about his thoughts on the Q1 and the quality of imaging he heard. It seems that this was one of the specific reasons he does not own Magico speakers. Those posts must have been considered off-topic.

    Regarding the new M series of speakers, I think much of their shape is precisely about helping the speakers to disappear. Howie made a distinction between disappearing and imaging. What is it about a speaker's design that affects the quality of the images it conveys? I always thought it had something to do with placement in the room, but it must also have something to do with the speaker itself. With these M speakers, Magico seems to be paying a lot of attention to shape. An owner of both the S5 and S5 mk2 told me that the curved top plate really improved the sense of image height in his system.
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    Re: Magico M2

    Thanks Mike. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Thanks Mike. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
    Thank you Peter. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LVB View Post
    It is simple physics. A speaker can’t be small, go low (and sealed), and efficient. Something got to give. No amount of money in the world will change that equation.
    would the correct reading of this be that the Q7 went large in order to retain going low and being efficient? That would explain why that speaker has so much physical depth (not in the sound...the actual cabinet size)

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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Skanda View Post
    would the correct reading of this be that the Q7 went large in order to retain going low and being efficient? That would explain why that speaker has so much physical depth (not in the sound...the actual cabinet size)
    Precisely, although a similar size loudspeaker with smaller drivers (but same amount), will be less efficient. All things being equal, larger diameter woofers are more efficient (easier coupling to the air).

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    Re: Magico M2

    I've read that the Q7 is not an easy load to drive due to it's complex impedance characteristics.

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    Re: Magico M2

    Mike,
    Absolutely gorgeous! When are you getting one for your store?
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    I must say it really is a gorgeous speaker. Mike, any images of the interior? I'd love to see the structure, midrange enclosure and attachment points for the skin, and front/back baffles.
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    Re: Magico M2

    Have they come out with the dimensions of the speaker itself? They gave us the footprint dimensions, just curious how wide the front is.
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    Re: Magico M2



    Just gorgeous!!!!


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    Re: Magico M2

    I wonder if M2 will have any affect on M3 sales.....those who might financially stretch but ultimately buy M3 might opt for M2 instead. And on S3/5Mk2 sales as well, buyers might opt for M2 instead.

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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I wonder if M2 will have any affect on M3 sales.....those who might financially stretch but ultimately buy M3 might opt for M2 instead. And on S3/5Mk2 sales as well, buyers might opt for M2 instead.
    Good question. I’m always thinking about the right speaker for the right room. M2 wi be wonderful in those smaller to midsized rooms.


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    IMHO this is an addition to the range. As an S3 mk2 owner at least I am not tempted, due to the higher specs of the S3 mk2.

    But, I am toying around with the idea of getting M3s.


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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post

    But, I am toying around with the idea of getting M3s.


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    Uh oh! I consider the M3’s in my top 4 - and best cone & dome.

    In no particular order....

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    ....

    I just haven’t heard better than the M series from Magico for cone & dome. I really haven’t.
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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I wonder if M2 will have any affect on M3 sales.....those who might financially stretch but ultimately buy M3 might opt for M2 instead. And on S3/5Mk2 sales as well, buyers might opt for M2 instead.
    I think the S and M series are voiced and priced for slightly different customer tastes and budgets. I think we can speculate but Magico has this all figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I think the S and M series are voiced and priced for slightly different customer tastes and budgets. I think we can speculate but Magico has this all figured out.
    I agree. Unfortunately, I like Classical during the week, and Rock on the weekends, at least at night. LOL.
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    Re: Magico M2

    Don’t get me wrong, the S series is superb and just below the M series. The VAC i170iQ on the S3 mk2’s is one of my favorite systems in the store. Head shaking good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    I agree. Unfortunately, I like Classical during the week, and Rock on the weekends, at least at night. LOL.
    The beauty of the S series for my ears is, that they can rock and also do classic very well.

    I would assume the M series can do both as well, but I have not yet tested them enough yet to be able to say.


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    Re: Magico M2

    Agree re the S3 mk2s. And Jazz. And electro (including bass-heavy electro). Am hoping my Magico dealer will get some M3s in store next year so I can test but I am willing to buy blind based on the feedback I have heard (especially from Sharks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Agree re the S3 mk2s. And Jazz. And electro (including bass-heavy electro). Am hoping my Magico dealer will get some M3s in store next year so I can test but I am willing to buy blind based on the feedback I have heard (especially from Sharks).
    This is for me probably the only non-negotiable criteria for speakers: they have to do all kinds of music well.

    I listen to jazz a lots, but speakers that cannot rock would be useless for my application.


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    Re: Magico M2

    Will be interesting to hear just how good the bass is in this small speaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    Will be interesting to hear just how good the bass is in this small speaker.
    Exactly what I’ve been wondering ever since the announcement. It has to be at least on par with S3 for me, but the physics is not on M2 side.

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    Magico said they have made improvements on the M3’s woofers to compensate for only using two and less volume in the cabinet. Should be interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Exactly what I’ve been wondering ever since the announcement. It has to be at least on par with S3 for me, but the physics is not on M2 side.
    Neither is the frequency range.


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    Magico said they have made improvements on the M3’s woofers to compensate for only using two and less volume in the cabinet. Should be interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Very interesting. Can you elaborate, Mike? What changes were made to the M2 woofers? Are you suggesting that the M2 bass will be similar to the M3 bass in extension and articulation?
    I have no further details at this time.
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    Surely if they made improvements to the woofer they would use the same improved woofer in both M2 and M3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Surely if they made improvements to the woofer they would use the same improved woofer in both M2 and M3?
    That would probably be the M3 Mk II.

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    Don't they use the exact same woofer in M2 and M3? That was my point.

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    Same diameter but my assumption in light of Mike's coment was a different part number. If the same part number, you have a point, but if the change is significant, what to do about current M3 owners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    Same diameter but my assumption in light of Mike's coment was a different part number. If the same part number, you have a point, but if the change is significant, what to do about current M3 owners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezap2 View Post
    Simple, keep enjoying the already fantastic M3 and not worry too much
    I think he meant what the manufacturer should do for the M3 owners, in which case, M3 mk2 of course. Magico M2 Look how that all turn out for Magico?! Alon is genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I think he meant what the manufacturer should do for the M3 owners, in which case, M3 mk2 of course. Magico M2 Look how that all turn out for Magico?! Alon is genius.
    M3 is now on the market for a few years, why should Magico do anything for the M3 owners, just because a smaller speaker (M2) is being introduced, I don't see the point.

    Except for the Q7, Magico has never worked with an upgrade program.
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    Actually, a new part number does not equal to a new product Magico M2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezap2 View Post
    M3 is now on the market for a few years, why should Magico do anything for the M3 owners, just because a smaller speaker (M2) is being introduced, I don't see the point.

    Except for the Q7, Magico has never worked with an upgrade program.
    Agreed, don’t read too much into. M3 is still the speaker to get for medium to largish rooms IMO. If anyone wants to trade their M3’s for M2’s even up, I’m all ears. Magico M2

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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezap2 View Post
    M3 is now on the market for a few years, why should Magico do anything for the M3 owners, just because a smaller speaker (M2) is being introduced, I don't see the point.

    Except for the Q7, Magico has never worked with an upgrade program.
    No one is really suggesting Magico should do something for M3 owners literally. It’s a figure of speech.

    Mike mentioned M2 has new drivers, so someone thought newer M3 should also use the same drivers. Then, someone asked what about the older M3 that are already out in the market. And I just gave my opinion that M3 mk2 could happen (to distinguish between current M3 and “newer” M3) if you know what I’m saying.

    It’s just all speculation. It may be true, it may be not. But that’s the point, people share their opinion on an Internet forum to discuss/talk/speculate.

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    Only Magico knows the details of the new M2 bass drivers. Magico does not use off the shelf drive units, which means that almost each drive unit ends up beeing modified to best suit a gived design.

    M2 is a smaller speaker, with a smaller # of drive units - I would be surprised if Magico didn't tweak (at least) some of the parameters of the drive unit.

    The fact that the parameters are different, doesn't mean, that the drive unit is better by default - it is certainly better for a given application.

    IMO we will first see the new S7, Q1 and Q7, than we see the new M3 mk 2.
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    [QUOTE=Kuoppis;257325]Actually, a new part number does not equal to a new product Magico M2.

    No, but for a Magico product that's been out for a couple of years, it's probably not an engineering change tweek either - especially for something that's not broke. So for a new driver, you probably won't see it retrofitted into a mid-life product, more likely a follow-on product. IMO of course - Magico is the one with the plan.

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    I agree. Just because it's different doesn't make it better for all speaker sizes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Only Magico knows the details of the new M2 bass drivers. Magico does not use off the shelf drive units, which means that almost each drive unit ends up beeing modified to best suit a gived design.

    M2 is a smaller speaker, with a smaller # of drive units - I would be surprised if Magico didn't tweak (at least) some of the parameters of the drive unit.

    The fact that the parameters are different, doesn't mean, that the drive unit is better by default - it is certainly better for a given application.

    IMO we will first see the new S7, Q1 and Q7, than we see the new M3 mk 2.
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    [QUOTE=GSOphile;257357]
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    ...So for a new driver, you probably won't see it retrofitted into a mid-life product, more likely a follow-on product..
    They retrofitted a new driver in SCC which was a mid-life product, and they didn't even attach a Mk2 badge to it after doing so.

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    [QUOTE=brodricj;257377]
    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post

    They retrofitted a new driver in SCC which was a mid-life product, and they didn't even attach a Mk2 badge to it after doing so.
    I won't be holding my breath on the M3.

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    The M2's are in my opinion the most beautiful Magico ever.

    I'm expecting them to sound sublime in small to medium sized rooms with unbeatable speed and articulation.

    Will it be better than the M3 and/or do we need a Mark II version of the M3, I say no. That said, I have ordered up a pair of demo M2's and hope they will arrive just in time for Montreal show, late March.

    Back to Mark II's. I don't believe there is a single model in Magico's current line up that is in need for a refresh, including the S7's. Only a guess on my part, but I'm expecting an expansion to M and especially the A series before we see any new Mark II's.

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    The S7 needs a refresh, as this is the only one with flat top left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    The S7 needs a refresh, as this is the only one with flat top left.
    I love the flat top, makes levelling nice and easy ;-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Jones View Post
    I love the flat top, makes levelling nice and easy ;-)
    And a glass of wine Magico M2 or two..

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    I used to pile vinyls on top of both speakers, when I had the S3 mk1.


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    WAF 9,000.

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    Gorgeous speaker. Thanks for posting the image.

    I understand it is constructed like, and has more in common with, the flagship M6 than it does with the M3. I wonder then why the base/footer and bottom design resembles the M3 more than it does the M6. Must be cost.

    It also makes me wonder why Magico never developed a Q2 speaker.
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