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May 14, 2019, 10:30 AM #251
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Congrats Mike, enjoy!!!
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May 14, 2019, 11:32 AM #252
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Congrats, Mike!
Hope they are easy to break in and you can enjoy them quickly. I look forward to your impressions.
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May 14, 2019, 11:38 AM #253
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You would never think a simple crate could look so good... unless it contained a Magico!
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May 14, 2019, 12:30 PM #254
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Hey Mike - I know you are still traveling, I can bring those home and break them in for you! ;-)
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May 14, 2019, 01:08 PM #255
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May 14, 2019, 03:00 PM #256
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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May 14, 2019, 04:04 PM #257
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May 14, 2019, 05:40 PM #258“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
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May 15, 2019, 09:35 AM #259
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Mike, I was gonna say, Sonus faber territory.
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May 15, 2019, 09:41 AM #260
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One thing I might say about the carpentry of the wooden shipping crates. I find it odd that they nail from the thick bracing timbers into the thin ply sheet. Sometimes leaves sharp nail points on the inside of the shipping crate. It seems far more sensible to me to nail from the ply sheet side into the bracing timbers. Then you get the nail head holding it together better, and no sharp points on the inside.
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May 15, 2019, 09:45 AM #261
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There is always a carpenter in every crowd! Lol
Yep those crates are a real turn off........Larry
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May 15, 2019, 09:51 AM #262
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I've had 3 sets of Magico speaker crates here. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all made by the same person. They really should redesign them for flat packing storage.
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May 15, 2019, 10:25 AM #263
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Actually I opted for the MCast instead of Mcoats S3Mk2’s not only because of costs but the fact they are packed in cardboard boxes which are more manageable to store specially in small spaces.
And you never know when the upgrade bug will hit and and you need to have those boxes or it becomes a real hassle and expense to get new ones.Larry
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Denali 6000S
Ansuz and MIT cabling
Timbernation walnut racks
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May 15, 2019, 10:29 AM #264
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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May 15, 2019, 12:19 PM #265
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Link to my system thread: https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threa...l-sound.32867/
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May 15, 2019, 02:03 PM #266
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May 17, 2019, 11:55 PM #267
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I am heading to a local dealer tomorrow to listen to the M2s and possibly S7s. Will definitely compare them.
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May 17, 2019, 11:56 PM #268
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May 18, 2019, 02:00 AM #269
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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May 18, 2019, 03:36 AM #270
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Re: Magico M2
Will do Mike, thanks.
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May 18, 2019, 09:10 PM #271
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May 18, 2019, 10:11 PM #272
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Spent a lot longer than I thought I would listening to the M2 and S7. It was a great experience.
M2:
When I first saw them they looked nice but rather small. I immediately felt… these can’t possible deliver a solid low end. Spoke for a good while with the seller Mark who was extremely kind and helpful. He really knows his stuff and was very welcoming, thanks Mark!
Anyhow after a bit of an intro and discussing my needs and my current gear I sat down. Please keep in mind that the speakers are in a room that Mark admits is lean and irregularly shaped so they are not 100% ideal. Basically its a basement room that is asymmetric with an opening hall way ‘port’ going far to the right, the listening area I would estimate is about 18 x 24 x 7 feet (but not totally sure). The M2 and S7 were connected to a luxman integrated 300 watt amp with chord dave + mscaler and nordost interconnects and cables.
First Mark played a Jazz piece by Lee Morgan on his turn table. It sounded solid.. the speakers had very good staging and placement. However there was some slight noise and crackling that sometimes accompanies vinyl sound. I was eager to move to digital.
Finally we got to move to some digital and thats when I was pretty shocked. Mark played some tracks that he thought were a good demonstration of the speakers prowess.. One of them was one that showed off the speakers bass which was unlike anything I ever heard before. I am not sure if it was the speaker or the track (I have to get the name of it and try to play it on my home system) but there was an ultra precise fast low thumping that vibrated as if I was listening to bass heavy headphones. It felt as if the sound was 1 cm from my ears on both sides. I was really taken aback! I had never heard imaging so good that the sound was perceived to be literally right near to your ears. Suffice it to say the M2 has bass… it is not necessarily the most powerful thumpy bass in the world but its fast and super precise. In techno tracks I listened to (Vonda7 - Don’t hesitate and Steffi - nightspacer) I appreciated the speed and precision of the bass which I was not used to.
What blew me away the most of these speakers is the holographic soundstage. It was the best I ever heard. Listening to Nicholas gunn - Veracruz the level of immersion was unreal. I could hear hums and tones from this somewhat newage/tribal rhythm that was up and behind my head… it left me feeling completely immersed and engrossed in the sound. Its incredible that such a small speaker can accomplish such a feat. Now of course the rooms were different but I don’t recall such a large and immersive soundstage from even the Stella Utopia Evo I heard 2 weeks back!
S7:
Mark then rolled in the S7s, he did note that there not totally optimized in terms of placement and there was a bit of issue with the tilt of them on the feet they had (I think he flipped the L + R ones). They looked impressive and had bright orange ‘lamborhigni’ style paint as Mark put it .
S7’s also sounded crisp, clear and very detailed but brought a low end authority that I realized then that I was missing on the M2s. This made for a truly exceptional and fun listening experience because it allowed me to play some thumpy techno and be even more engaged. The low rumble still remained taut, fast and crisp which I appreciated. I am really liking the Magico sound signature… if there is one?
However something was missing. As good as the S7 was, that last bit of transparency, detail and surprisingly soundstage size was missing. The M2 was the superior speaker with respect to these qualities. The difference wasn’t night and day at all but left me just with a feeling that some of the magic that the M2 brought was lost. Reading these words sounds harsh… please do not overanalyze this… the S7 is an amazing speaker. However the M2 is just better a squeezing out every last nuance. Strings plucked in the opening of Celtic Woman - Isle of Isinfree had a sub-shimmer micro detail that has to be heard to be believed. The resolving power of the M2 is truly amazing… the S7 follows close behind!
I didn’t spend as much time with the S7 as the M2 as I started feeling bad for Mark spending so much time on me… and I had to eventually go home, but I am eager to go back and listen more.
He also had an A3 and S3 Mk2 which I hope to hear next time. Both the M2 and S7 are very impressive speakers. I urge you to listen to them. I will be coming back to them I am sure as I close in on my final decision on my speaker upgrade.
EDIT: btw some pics over on my forum here: http://www.sonicvisions.org/index.ph...mpressions.13/
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May 18, 2019, 10:31 PM #273
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Wow! Excellent write up. Mark is a great guy.
I’d love to hear the M2.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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May 19, 2019, 12:25 AM #274
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Congrats! Glad all went well with the demo. The M2’s are incredible.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMy Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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May 19, 2019, 01:05 AM #275
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May 19, 2019, 01:14 AM #276
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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May 19, 2019, 03:11 AM #277
Magico M2
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
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May 19, 2019, 08:52 AM #278
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Ya good points. Plus I already have 2 18 inchers in here.
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May 19, 2019, 01:20 PM #279
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A friend of mine who went to Munich felt the M2 was better than the M6 at the show - more coherent.
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May 19, 2019, 08:58 PM #280
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I also read an impression of someone who liked the M2 more than the M3.
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May 19, 2019, 09:46 PM #281
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May 20, 2019, 12:50 AM #282
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Still contemplating Paul
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May 20, 2019, 12:52 AM #283
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May 20, 2019, 01:02 AM #284
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Nice Paul!
Wish I was closer too.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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May 20, 2019, 01:10 AM #285
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Would be an honor, are you a seller of avantgarde? I'd like to hear them.
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May 20, 2019, 11:21 AM #286
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So I listened to a song on the M2, Jeremy Blake - Limit to Your Love. I discussed it before but when the vibrating bass kicks in the M2 have this unbelieveable ability to throw out a holographic soundstage like I never heard and I heard the bass vibration right next to my ears as if I was wearing headphones.
I tried this on my home Sig S8 v2 which I thought had an excellent sound stage and holographic projection was surprised to find absolutely none of the similar effect, the bass was simply flat sounding coming from the speakers... the sense of 3D that the m2 produces is amazing.
Sadly I didn't play this song on the S7. I am interested to see if the S7 does the same. Maybe it was his room? But I don't think so because his room wasn't even optimal.
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May 20, 2019, 11:41 AM #287
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That is an interesting observation. In my experience, soundstage and holographic projection has a lot to do with proper speaker/listener/room set up. It's one of the sonic attributes that improved a lot during the month I spent setting up my new speakers in my room. It also has to do with cabinet distortion and the overall resolution of the system, but if you don't here it to the same extent in different room/systems, I would first look at the listening position and speaker position within the given room.
Link to my system thread: https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threa...l-sound.32867/
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Electronics: Lamm LP2.1 Deluxe, Lamm LL1.1 Signature, Lamm ML2
Speakers: Vitavox CN-191 corner horns
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May 20, 2019, 03:43 PM #288
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May 20, 2019, 03:55 PM #289
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May 20, 2019, 05:10 PM #290
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Thats a good point. PeterA
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May 20, 2019, 05:13 PM #291
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I get a tickle sensation on my home system. What I heard with the M2 is different. I listened to the song my hd800 and the bass was right in my ears. This is how it sounded on the M2, as if the bass was coming from transducers right on my ears. So its more than a mere tickling of the ears.
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May 20, 2019, 05:44 PM #292
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There are two effects as I mentioned - a fluctuating pressurization of the room (the tickling) and some kind of phase effect which makes the sound seem to be coming from everywhere which your brain interprets as next to your ears or even behind you. Some of the laughter in DSOTM for example has the same effect of delocalization.
If you don't get the tickling effect it's because the speakers aren't pressurizing the room (not enough power and/or not enough woofer). If you don't get the phase effect with the sound seemingly coming from next to your ears it's most likely speaker placement issues. I get both effects on my system but I wouldn't attribute either to imaging. Holographic imaging implies you can locate sounds precisely within the sound field. Phase manipulation kind of does the opposite - it delocalizes the sound. Pulling it off depends on proper speaker placement, seating position, and sound treatment of some kind to minimize disruption from the first and second reflection points.Howard
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May 22, 2019, 09:12 AM #293
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Any advice on placement of my speakers to mimic the same phase effect? Right now I have my sig towers slightly toed in and about 3 feet from back wall and 4 feet from side walls in a 16 foot long room, listening position is about 10 feet away. Room is 16 x 12 x 8 ft. 2 18 inch subs, one in top right corner and one in back left corner. No treatments but furniture and book cases in my room.
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May 22, 2019, 09:27 AM #294
Re: Magico M2
After a long absence, and not a lot of serious music listening (one of the many downsides of working too hard!), I am re-engaging with my music. Was delighted to see the M2 release and have read with interest all the reports. One thing that jumps out at me is that the M2’s bass reach (at least based on the specs) is less than the M3s and also the S3 mk2s (smaller drivers presumably). Has anyone who has heard the M2s and the M3s found the M2s lacking in bass? Appreciate that room size is a factor. Also read with interest the view that the M2s’ enclosure is more advanced than the M3s (M6s trickle-down). Aside from room size and ignoring budget (two key variables!) is there any reason why one would go for the M2s over the M3s?
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May 22, 2019, 09:42 AM #295
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Re: Magico M2
The room dimensions are not ideal - there are probably some significant room nodes that need to be dealt with. You might try placing the speakers a couple feet further in to the room. The subs especially will likely take a lot of trial and error and/or room treatments and DSP for best result.
Howard
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May 22, 2019, 11:10 AM #296
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The M2 is definitely not lacking in bass. It filled the 20 x 30 room at Munich beautifully. The drivers I BELIEVE are built to a higher specification than the M3 and that’s how they can get so much, so low out of just two instead of three. The cabinet is a definite advantage helping the speaker disappear. As I said to Alon, the M series outplanners the planners. Others like Alpinist have said this and I agree. The M2 is for the customer who wants to upgrade from the S3 mk2 IMHO (Larry, this means you).
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May 22, 2019, 11:25 AM #297
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Thanks Mike. I see an M2 audition on the horizon...
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May 22, 2019, 11:25 AM #298
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If it's any help, my experience with the A3 in my space (16x31x18) was quite shocking in my 20 years experience of audiophilia. I bring it up because the M2 and A3 have basically a quite similar form factor as well as drivers (at least size-wise) and I never had great expectations for the A3 working in this sized room. I achieved the stunning room lock that smodtactical described hearing at Mark's place. The chinese drums provided me with goosebumps and tremendous walloping dynamics. I've had several pairs of S3's in different rooms and never got that effect out of them at all. My room is open into other rooms so I get a lot of leakage and the A3 - was a stunning performer. I called the A3 a miracle speaker because it seems to defy the law of physics both for their stature as well as their driver size/complement. If the M2 does this with its further refinements (carbon monocoque) it most certainly could be the new "sweet spot" of the Magico line, a title held currently by S3Mk2. I'd love to see someone provide measurements on these speakers. Like we say at work - in God we trust - everyone else must bring data.
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May 22, 2019, 02:56 PM #299“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
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May 22, 2019, 03:02 PM #300
Re: Magico M2
Oh doggy chit!
Mike I regret to inform you I have moved to Timbuktu somewhere!Larry
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