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    The speaker looks really beautiful.

    I do find it interesting the construction of aluminum in contact with carbon fiber. In my experience in the aircraft industry you never have aluminum assembled to carbon fiber due to corrosion issues. The requirements are very different and with speakers in that they don't have temperature, altitude or stress the same as aircraft. But, the two don't play well together due to the effect of carbon fibers corrosive effects on aluminum. Just a thought.
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    Nice pictures but the angle on some of them make me "Dizzie".
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    Re: Magico M2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel View Post
    The speaker looks really beautiful.

    I do find it interesting the construction of aluminum in contact with carbon fiber. In my experience in the aircraft industry you never have aluminum assembled to carbon fiber due to corrosion issues. The requirements are very different and with speakers in that they don't have temperature, altitude or stress the same as aircraft. But, the two don't play well together due to the effect of carbon fibers corrosive effects on aluminum. Just a thought.
    Pretty sure there is a gasket between the carbon and aluminum....

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    Pretty sure there is a gasket between the carbon and aluminum....
    If that was all that was required to stop the effects then airplane manufacturing would use as described. They don't for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel View Post
    If that was all that was required to stop the effects then airplane manufacturing would use as described. They don't for a reason.

    Speakers don't get rain, salt, chemicals. U are way over thinking this...

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    Speakers don't get rain, salt, chemicals. U are way over thinking this...
    I'm merely bringing up the facts about aluminum and carbon fiber. Weather and the environment has an effect on everything everywhere even in the home with equipment and speakers.
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    Re: Magico M2

    M3:

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    well years ago when carbon was still exotic in bicycle industry , the French manufacturing company LOOK bicycles used pipes of carbon and those where glued together with aluminum joints , can't recall i have heard of any faulty because of those parts together.
    Apart from that i like the look of the M2
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    French engineering
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    he he , can be both good or bad.
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    Had several cars, including the BMW M3, aluminum chassis with a CF roof, so its not just the French

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    Re: Magico M2

    Is special tooling required to open up an M3 enclosure?

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    Are there any reports on how this Magico sounds?
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    Re: Magico M2

    A3 cracked a brief mention in the Stereophile Montreal show reports. I don't think M2 got a mention at all.

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    Atkinson mentioned the M2....

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    The monocoque construction of the M2 and M6 is a brilliantly engineered design with tension rods holding the cast aluminum front and back and the thick carbon fiber sides very tightly together. No bonding of aluminum and carbon is necessary. Consequently, the cabinet is amazingly strong, rigid and inert. I knocked hard on the carbon fiber sides of the M6 and it is as solid as a rock. Highly impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    The monocoque construction of the M2 and M6 is a brilliantly engineered design with tension rods holding the cast aluminum front and back and the thick carbon fiber sides very tightly together. No bonding of aluminum and carbon is necessary. Consequently, the cabinet is amazingly strong, rigid and inert. I knocked hard on the carbon fiber sides of the M6 and it is as solid as a rock. Highly impressive.

    Ken
    I agree. The original Magico Mini was also constructed like this but with birch plywood instead of carbon fiber. I imagine it takes less time to assemble these new speakers because of the few connectors, saving costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDPDK View Post
    well years ago when carbon was still exotic in bicycle industry , the French manufacturing company LOOK bicycles used pipes of carbon and those where glued together with aluminum joints , can't recall i have heard of any faulty because of those parts together.
    Apart from that i like the look of the M2
    i used to race with one of those creaked and groan like a old hag , no confidence endured when in a 42 mph flat sprint, hated it same for the Klein ...

    Went back to steel frames always thought them better than composites or ally back then ...

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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Atkinson mentioned the M2....
    Here... https://www.stereophile.com/content/...rning-montreal

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I agree. The original Magico Mini was also constructed like this but with birch plywood instead of carbon fiber. I imagine it takes less time to assemble these new speakers because of the few connectors, saving costs.
    Yes, less assembly time and better performance!

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    Funny that there is basically no talk about the M2..you would think it would be a talking point of the show....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Funny that there is basically no talk about the M2..you would think it would be a talking point of the show....
    Canadians are cheap (I’m Canadian and American), they saw the price and kept walking.

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    I completely missed the mention of M2 in that report, I was expecting to see something more substantial. A new Magico speaker usually generates more hoopla at its first public showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I completely missed the mention of M2 in that report, I was expecting to see something more substantial. A new Magico speaker usually generates more hoopla at its first public showing.
    I'm surprised too, especially given the great looks and high expectations of the sound. I wonder why Magico chose to debut the speaker at this show. I would have thought Munich.
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    Re: Magico M2

    Munich show isn't until May 9-12. Maybe Magico did not want to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzie View Post
    Munich show isn't until May 9-12. Maybe Magico did not want to wait.
    Most likely.
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    Re: Magico M2

    Can't expect much from Stereophile when it comes to Magico
    Here is another report:
    The Best of Montréal Audio Fest 2019
    https://www.soundstagehifi.com/index.php/opinion/1272

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    From reading the article it sounds like a very new pair of M2's in a less than perfict room.

    One thing I noticed from the articles header under details at the top of the article

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    Re: Magico M2

    According to Magico FB, they will be at Overture, Delaware this coming weekend. I believe they will be at AXPONA as well.

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    My pair is coming soon. Looking forward to it. Time to cue up the Daft Punk!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    My pair is coming soon. Looking forward to it. Time to cue up the Daft Punk!


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    ‘Your pair’???.....you keep saying that.
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    Looks like Mike's crates are ready....

    http://www.monoandstereo.com/2019/04/magico-m2.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Looks like Mike's crates are ready....

    http://www.monoandstereo.com/2019/04/magico-m2.html
    YES!


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    Nice
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    Anyone compare M2 to M3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Riess View Post
    Anyone compare M2 to M3?
    Soon!


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    Or the A3 to M2. The form factors are quite similar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Riess View Post
    Anyone compare M2 to M3?
    With the improved woofers and monocoque cabinet construction, I believe the difference will be much less than people expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    With the improved woofers and monocoque cabinet construction, I believe the difference will be much less than people expect.

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    How have the woofers been improved, any details on that?


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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    With the improved woofers and monocoque cabinet construction, I believe the difference will be much less than people expect.

    Ken
    Apparently the M2’s woofers were redesigned to deliver more bass since there are only two of them. This enables the M2 to deliver nearly as much bass overall as the M3’s. Mike may have some details on the actual changes that were made to achieve this result.

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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    Apparently the M2’s woofers were redesigned to deliver more bass since there are only two of them. This enables the M2 to deliver nearly as much bass overall as the M3’s. Mike may have some details on the actual changes that were made to achieve this result.

    Ken
    Thanks Ken, I have also heard the M2s do not lack far behind the M3s in terms of bass output, and that definition might even be a tad better.

    Mike, any insights into this?


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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by owldiscourse View Post
    Or the A3 to M2. The form factors are quite similar...
    My A3's should arrive in a couple of weeks. The M2's would be akin to 'grail' speakers in theory. The good thing is that the A3's should hold their value (I'm paying the original on-offer price) well enough that trading them will be doable.

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    Re: Magico M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart001 View Post
    My A3's should arrive in a couple of weeks. The M2's would be akin to 'grail' speakers in theory. The good thing is that the A3's should hold their value (I'm paying the original on-offer price) well enough that trading them will be doable.
    Nice! At $9800 they were a STEAL! $12,300 is still a great value for the A3.


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    Re: Magico M2



    My Magico M2’s arrive!


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