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Thread: MSB Premier DAC Review
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December 3, 2018, 09:05 PM #1
MSB Premier DAC Review
http://www.mondoaudio.it/img/uploade...SB%20AR403.pdf
Google translation of high lights:
MSB PREMIER DAC on report
The D / a MSB PREMIER DAC Converter, last project of the California house, is tested by Marco Benedetti for report of November.
Below some excerpts, at the bottom the link to the entire review:
"... defining extremely convincing the result in the listening room is an understatement.
It is one of those dangerous products to try, because there is a concrete risk of suffering excruciatingly when the time comes to send them back."
" the inside is a show, we are used to the architectural beauty of the interior of the DAC MSB, but every time it is a
"... we are at the peaks of digital reproduction, let's say that 10 years ago similar results were absolutely unthinkable."
" in conclusion, even this time msb hit me hard, with a product of huge charm, which besides playing bloody well is built like a ferrari."
"to listen absolutely, but only if you can afford it, otherwise better not know"
Whole Review (PDF):
http://www.mondoaudio.it/img/uploade...SB%20AR403.pdfMy Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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December 6, 2018, 08:58 PM #2
Re: MSB Premier DAC Review
Ohhhh mama mia, mama mia......I want one!.....
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December 10, 2018, 01:27 PM #3
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Re: MSB Premier DAC Review
I have been considering sending my Discrete is for the Premier upgrade and keep talking myself out of doing so. This post does not help !
My system:
Power: PS Audio P15 , dedicated 20amp circuits
Front End: MSB Discrete DAC with MSB renderer
Pre: Simaudio Moon 740P
Amp: McIntosh MC462
Speakers: B&W 802 D3
Interconnects: AQ Earth XLR and Stealth Metacarbon
Speaker Cable: AQ Type 4 (20 ft runs)
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December 10, 2018, 02:41 PM #4
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Re: MSB Premier DAC Review
I had the pleasure of several hours with the Femto 93 clock card upgrade in the Premier dac over the weekend. This card actually gets you lower jitter than the stock clock in the Reference dac.
To me, the clock upgrade is a much larger improvement than moving from double power supplies to the PowerBase. Considerably more vibrant, dynamic but with even more analog feel and decay. It was a bigger effect than I anticipated. I was hesitant to purchase it upfront, but likely will be upgrading at some point in 2019. The beauty of MSB yet again.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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December 11, 2018, 08:29 AM #5
Re: MSB Premier DAC Review
Thanks for this Keith. A Femto 93 upgrade is definitely a 2019 project for me. Good to know it is a significant step up from the Premier clock.
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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December 20, 2018, 01:18 PM #6
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December 20, 2018, 01:23 PM #7
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December 31, 2018, 12:13 PM #8
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December 31, 2018, 12:24 PM #9
Re: MSB Premier DAC Review
System #1................................................ System #2
ROON Nucleus + server ...............................SME 20/3A
MSB Reference DAC / V2 Renderer ...............SME V arm
VAC Signature MkII SE Preamp .....................Dynavector TE Kaitora Rua
MSB S202 Stereo Amp.................. ..... Sutherland current gain phono stage, Phono loco
Wilson Audio Sasha II................................ Stenheim Alumime Three
REL G1 Mk II (pair) Subs............................ Bricasti M1 SE DAC
Transparent Audio Gen 5 Reference........... T+A PA3000HV Integrated
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